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On October 07 2013 00:40 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On October 07 2013 00:39 Mr. Cheesecake wrote: s0lstice already shot SnB... he can't shoot again? Or am i wrong about that SnB was N2 shot. There is a dude who fakeclaim a cop and you shoot someone else?
yea, you arent reading, or are and are purposely misrepresenting facts.
scum. kill.
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On October 06 2013 06:50 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On October 06 2013 06:45 VayneAuthority wrote:On October 06 2013 06:41 austinmcc wrote:On October 06 2013 06:33 s0Lstice wrote: whats this with vayne now austin?
maybe im being dumb but I'm not seeing how what he's saying is more scum than crazy As I see things, sacrificing KP to vest oneself is silly. Read the posts, but tl;dr is: VA says Oats is a "prime bulletproof target", that the shot was bad, and that scumOats would have bulletproofed Koshi said he had no shot. Right until the last minute, it was POSSIBLE he was being tricksy but seemed unlikely given how open he's been about his actions. GODDAMN I CANNOT TL;DR TO SAVE MY LIFE So the only shots that mafia would be EXPECTING are from scum (1) If oats is on the three-man team...WHY DOES THE ONE MAN TEAM SHOOT HIM? There are confirmed townies. There's the chance to get a drive-by the next night. Oats is a possible mislynch. WHY WOULD THE ONE DUDE SHOOT OATS? Makes no sense. (2) If oats is on the one-man team...WHY DOES THE THREE MAN TEAM SHOOT OATS? Same thing. Confirmed townies. Drive-by option. GREAT MISLYNCH. WHY SHOOT OATS? Fact is, nobody thought Koshi had a shot. It was a paranoid thought, perhaps, for those of us super paranoid, but never even DISCUSSED or HINTED AT. So the only shots expected last night were mafia. And VA is suggesting that MAFIA OATS would have been a great target for a MAFIA SHOT, so much so that OATS WOULD HAVE BULLETPROOFED JUST IN CASE, SACCING KP TO DO SO. Mafia, of either team, have NO INCENTIVE TO SHOOT TOWN OATS. HE IS A GREAT MISLYNCH. HE'S CLEARLY BEING SET UP YESTERDAY. MAFIA WOULD NOT SHOOT OATS EVARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR. I already answered this. If you actually thought koshi didn't have a shot you don't know how to setup speculate. I have already addressed earlier that the "loose cannon" cop would have lethal force and the "good" cop would have precision shot. makes perfect sense. You just look scummy with this shit. Good cop: PS Ambulance x2 Bad cop: Prius Lethal shot x2 Rest is for both. To easy your mind VA.
Koshi I'd really like to hear more about how you shot grack and hiro shot VE.
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On October 07 2013 00:46 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On October 07 2013 00:44 s0Lstice wrote:On October 06 2013 06:50 Koshi wrote:On October 06 2013 06:45 VayneAuthority wrote:On October 06 2013 06:41 austinmcc wrote:On October 06 2013 06:33 s0Lstice wrote: whats this with vayne now austin?
maybe im being dumb but I'm not seeing how what he's saying is more scum than crazy As I see things, sacrificing KP to vest oneself is silly. Read the posts, but tl;dr is: VA says Oats is a "prime bulletproof target", that the shot was bad, and that scumOats would have bulletproofed Koshi said he had no shot. Right until the last minute, it was POSSIBLE he was being tricksy but seemed unlikely given how open he's been about his actions. GODDAMN I CANNOT TL;DR TO SAVE MY LIFE So the only shots that mafia would be EXPECTING are from scum (1) If oats is on the three-man team...WHY DOES THE ONE MAN TEAM SHOOT HIM? There are confirmed townies. There's the chance to get a drive-by the next night. Oats is a possible mislynch. WHY WOULD THE ONE DUDE SHOOT OATS? Makes no sense. (2) If oats is on the one-man team...WHY DOES THE THREE MAN TEAM SHOOT OATS? Same thing. Confirmed townies. Drive-by option. GREAT MISLYNCH. WHY SHOOT OATS? Fact is, nobody thought Koshi had a shot. It was a paranoid thought, perhaps, for those of us super paranoid, but never even DISCUSSED or HINTED AT. So the only shots expected last night were mafia. And VA is suggesting that MAFIA OATS would have been a great target for a MAFIA SHOT, so much so that OATS WOULD HAVE BULLETPROOFED JUST IN CASE, SACCING KP TO DO SO. Mafia, of either team, have NO INCENTIVE TO SHOOT TOWN OATS. HE IS A GREAT MISLYNCH. HE'S CLEARLY BEING SET UP YESTERDAY. MAFIA WOULD NOT SHOOT OATS EVARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR. I already answered this. If you actually thought koshi didn't have a shot you don't know how to setup speculate. I have already addressed earlier that the "loose cannon" cop would have lethal force and the "good" cop would have precision shot. makes perfect sense. You just look scummy with this shit. Good cop: PS Ambulance x2 Bad cop: Prius Lethal shot x2 Rest is for both. To easy your mind VA. Koshi I'd really like to hear more about how you shot grack and hiro shot VE. ... prius ve you ******* ******
You did not say prius. You said shoot.
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On October 07 2013 00:50 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On October 07 2013 00:47 s0Lstice wrote:On October 07 2013 00:46 Koshi wrote:On October 07 2013 00:44 s0Lstice wrote:On October 06 2013 06:50 Koshi wrote:On October 06 2013 06:45 VayneAuthority wrote:On October 06 2013 06:41 austinmcc wrote:On October 06 2013 06:33 s0Lstice wrote: whats this with vayne now austin?
maybe im being dumb but I'm not seeing how what he's saying is more scum than crazy As I see things, sacrificing KP to vest oneself is silly. Read the posts, but tl;dr is: VA says Oats is a "prime bulletproof target", that the shot was bad, and that scumOats would have bulletproofed Koshi said he had no shot. Right until the last minute, it was POSSIBLE he was being tricksy but seemed unlikely given how open he's been about his actions. GODDAMN I CANNOT TL;DR TO SAVE MY LIFE So the only shots that mafia would be EXPECTING are from scum (1) If oats is on the three-man team...WHY DOES THE ONE MAN TEAM SHOOT HIM? There are confirmed townies. There's the chance to get a drive-by the next night. Oats is a possible mislynch. WHY WOULD THE ONE DUDE SHOOT OATS? Makes no sense. (2) If oats is on the one-man team...WHY DOES THE THREE MAN TEAM SHOOT OATS? Same thing. Confirmed townies. Drive-by option. GREAT MISLYNCH. WHY SHOOT OATS? Fact is, nobody thought Koshi had a shot. It was a paranoid thought, perhaps, for those of us super paranoid, but never even DISCUSSED or HINTED AT. So the only shots expected last night were mafia. And VA is suggesting that MAFIA OATS would have been a great target for a MAFIA SHOT, so much so that OATS WOULD HAVE BULLETPROOFED JUST IN CASE, SACCING KP TO DO SO. Mafia, of either team, have NO INCENTIVE TO SHOOT TOWN OATS. HE IS A GREAT MISLYNCH. HE'S CLEARLY BEING SET UP YESTERDAY. MAFIA WOULD NOT SHOOT OATS EVARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR. I already answered this. If you actually thought koshi didn't have a shot you don't know how to setup speculate. I have already addressed earlier that the "loose cannon" cop would have lethal force and the "good" cop would have precision shot. makes perfect sense. You just look scummy with this shit. Good cop: PS Ambulance x2 Bad cop: Prius Lethal shot x2 Rest is for both. To easy your mind VA. Koshi I'd really like to hear more about how you shot grack and hiro shot VE. ... prius ve you ******* ****** You did not say prius. You said shoot. You going to be a little bitch? I didnt say that. But I can see I need to type out everything very carefully.
On October 07 2013 00:40 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On October 07 2013 00:35 Oatsmaster wrote: What did you do n1 koshi? Precision shot a dude right? Yes. Me grack and hiro VE.
Your chance to tell it like it was was here. You done goofed.
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anyway I gotta step away for a bit.
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On October 06 2013 13:31 austinmcc wrote:Show nested quote +On October 06 2013 13:20 Mr. Cheesecake wrote: Austin are you considering he is the real cop -.- Also, yes. I'm considering it. I had a scumread on koshi earlier. I specifically noted that his play after soft-claiming was odd for cop. His play after hard-claiming hasn't really looked more cop-ish. And today, he made some WEIRD posts that caught my eye but I dismissed: Show nested quote +On October 06 2013 05:37 Koshi wrote:On October 06 2013 05:27 VayneAuthority wrote: that is why that was a horrible shot koshi. I expected better tbh! I did it all for you. You said Oats was last banger D: I shot oats cuz VA said he was MCB Show nested quote +On October 06 2013 05:53 Koshi wrote:On October 06 2013 05:42 VayneAuthority wrote: oh ok. then I guess the question is do you get notified if RB'd I did the action. I wasnt RB. It is interesting that you know bulletproof vest costs 0,5 kp VA. The KP comment is basically a "maybe you're scum for knowing the cost of scum items" Show nested quote +On October 06 2013 06:08 Koshi wrote: Still sad that I didnt get last banger.
##vote: Pandain
You sure about your pandain read VA? 48 hours.to convince us all. I trust rayn to be right.as.well anyway.
But right after being unsure, asks VA if he's sure on pandain and is voting pandain Show nested quote +On October 06 2013 06:37 Koshi wrote: I am sad VA doesnt love me for shooting his scumread. But yeah, dnu what is up with VA atm. Now back to doesn't know whassup. Despite just asking if he's sure about his read. Who cares if VA is sure on his read if Koshi doesn't know how to read VA right now? Show nested quote +On October 06 2013 06:59 Koshi wrote:On October 06 2013 06:52 VisceraEyes wrote: Koshi can you explain to me succinctly why you think VA is town? Because he pretends to have figured out the game or be close to figure out since the start of the game. While he hasn't. I assocciate this behaviour with town vayne. There are more thingies like that. I am like on 65% town. Need to lynch Pandain if he doesnt play the day 4 of his life. When asked why VA is town, Koshi gives reasons he thinks VA is town. Then says he's 65% on VA = town. ALSO SAYS THAT VA IS TOWN BECAUSE VA THINKS HE HAS FIGURED OUT THE GAME BUT REALLY HASN'T. YET IS STILL ASKING VA WHETHER VA TRUSTS HIS READ. IF VA TRUSTS HIS READ ON PANDAIN AND KOSHI THINKS VA IS TOWN BECAUSE HE THINKS HE KNOWS SHIZ BUT HE DON'T KNOW SHIZ THEN KOSHI SHOULDN'T BE VOTING PANDAIN. Show nested quote +On October 06 2013 07:56 Koshi wrote:On October 06 2013 07:48 VayneAuthority wrote:On October 06 2013 07:46 austinmcc wrote:On October 06 2013 07:43 VayneAuthority wrote:On October 06 2013 07:41 austinmcc wrote:On October 06 2013 01:14 VayneAuthority wrote: and wave is actually doing shit so I feel pretty good where im at
oats and pandain/s0lstice/austin hu3hu3 On October 06 2013 01:54 VayneAuthority wrote: if anything im going to be pressure voting CR tomorrow. fuck this lurking shit when i dont know anything about the guy CR wasn't even in your scumteams. Then you say you're going to pressure vote him. On D4. When you have scum suspects. Then oats is confirmed town when D4 starts. So now you KNOW your scumreads are wrong, you need MORE scum, a guy you thought was townie before IS scum, and what do you do? You vote pandain. You don't actually care about voting CR. Or pressuring him. You don't pressure him, you don't maybe slot him into the place where oats was, you just go with pandain. Cuz he's maybe mislynchable. And this, in the face of people hopping on Oats yesterday: On October 06 2013 07:34 VayneAuthority wrote: if it isn't obvious I am the mislynch of choice as I predicted yesterday. which is why people started gravitating towards me yesterday. Anyone that votes for me is essentially claiming scum. Is sillypants. IF by some miracle you're town: (1) Oats was clearly being set up as the mislynch of choice (2) LOOK AT THE VOTES. It's 2 for CR, 2 for Pandain, 1 for you. Do tell, how does that make you the "obvious mislynch for today"? you're bad if you are town again, reminds me of nuclear. You always try to make town lose for whatever reason How are you the mislynch of choice? You're not being lynched. You're in third place. Do you DISAGREE that oats was being set up as a mislynch? yes I do. once CR spoke up about me only then is when pandain started hard pushing me, so it was either pre meditated or scum team is abusing a newbie which is pretty despicable. From yesterday I was going to have CR vote, pandain vote, VE vote, potentially your vote it looks like? and WoS could easily just say "YES POLICY LYNCH TIME" that's already 5 votes. It was going to be Oats over you tbh. You might have been wagon 2 together with Padain. I was paying attention on who was the prime lynch candidate. I need to revisit the argumens made early night one about either WoS or Oats being last banger. But too tired atm. He shot the dude's scumread. Isn't super sure how to read him. etc. etc. But VA might have been a #2 lynch the next day. Maybe.
Koshi, I want to hear you talk about this.
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On October 07 2013 01:41 WaveofShadow wrote: Hey Koshi. I'm just starting to catch up now based on where I left off and I just thought I'd stop to write fuck you. How dare you blame anything on me and saying I'm not taking a stance. Are you fucking blind? MY VOTE IS ON FUCKING SOLSTICE.
That is all.
I feel like deep down you know the right answer here. How good do you feel/still feel about your original Oats read? Didn't it make you uneasy when he was 'confirmed.'? The answer is Koshi is lying. He even just screwed up his story.
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On October 07 2013 01:25 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On October 07 2013 01:19 Oatsmaster wrote:On October 07 2013 01:15 Koshi wrote:On October 07 2013 01:11 Oatsmaster wrote: So why would scum fakeclaim doing such a stupid thing Koshi?
Good question. Maybe he read it wrong or something. Or made the mistake to put PS and ambulance together n1. Dnu. But no way that 2 cops do something like that. I dont understand why you as town don't believe me.. I confirmed you. I dont understand why you dont seem to know that scum roughly know who town is. Koshi is also probably on the 3 scumteam so they only think one scum is left. AND ITS PROBABLY NOT OATS. YEAH. Not a hard thing to do at all Koshi. Especially if you are already in communication with the last scum person in the game that isnt on your team. So you dont think its possible that the blue roles are not used efficiently? Grtz on 7k. Dude. We confirmed 3 towns now. Why would I on n3 confirm you when I am scum. I would just lynch you instead.... I fucking prevented your lynch by my actions. I would have said I bussed myslef or something. I wouldnt be confirming more fucking townies. Fuck you Oats. I really dont get it. I did something super protown by confirming you. Why would scum do this...
This is all WIFOM and you know it.
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Combine this with the fact that Koshi hasn't like, actually fucking PLAYED THE GAME.
His reads were: X is scum lulz.
I'm sure thats still the case, because he wasn't actually trying to solve the game.
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On October 07 2013 01:48 VayneAuthority wrote: for me it just boils down to s0lstice night actions not making sense and his piss poor play if he's the real cop thinking he's some hero or something. deserves to lose from both alignments so...yea. Policy lynch more then anything
If you want town to win this game, there is no place for a policy lynch today.
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On October 07 2013 01:51 VayneAuthority wrote:Show nested quote +On October 07 2013 01:50 s0Lstice wrote:On October 07 2013 01:48 VayneAuthority wrote: for me it just boils down to s0lstice night actions not making sense and his piss poor play if he's the real cop thinking he's some hero or something. deserves to lose from both alignments so...yea. Policy lynch more then anything If you want town to win this game, there is no place for a policy lynch today. my ego is way too big to lose to such a bad claim, you will never have my vote.
Check your ego. I know you like to win, and if you lynch me you will lose. I don't care how stupid you think I am. Weigh everything and make the best decision for a town win. Fear is controlling your vote. Don't be afraid to be wrong, just make the best choice and fuck the rest.
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On October 07 2013 01:56 VayneAuthority wrote:Show nested quote +On October 07 2013 01:54 s0Lstice wrote:On October 07 2013 01:51 VayneAuthority wrote:On October 07 2013 01:50 s0Lstice wrote:On October 07 2013 01:48 VayneAuthority wrote: for me it just boils down to s0lstice night actions not making sense and his piss poor play if he's the real cop thinking he's some hero or something. deserves to lose from both alignments so...yea. Policy lynch more then anything If you want town to win this game, there is no place for a policy lynch today. my ego is way too big to lose to such a bad claim, you will never have my vote. Check your ego. I know you like to win, and if you lynch me you will lose. I don't care how stupid you think I am. Weigh everything and make the best decision for a town win. Fear is controlling your vote. Don't be afraid to be wrong, just make the best choice and fuck the rest. You should have counterclaimed koshi immediately and your actions don't make sense. It is the best choice
In my shoes perhaps you would have counter-claimed immediately, chosen different night actions. The truth though is that that is irrelevant. I explained explicitly why I didn't counter claim right away. Tell me why you find this unsatisfactory beyond the fact that it's not what you would have done. Do the same for the night actions.
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On October 07 2013 02:00 Oatsmaster wrote: solstice, if you think Koshi is town, why do you want to lynch him?
Koshi is scum. I have said this.
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On October 07 2013 02:00 VisceraEyes wrote: s0L here's where I'm hung up.
You were bringing up being newbie as part of the reason this is so bad, right? Because you're "not used to playing blue" and because "you don't know how this shit works" etc etc.
However, being cognizant of that, you expect us to believe that rather than doing the right thing (hard-confirming Cheese) you were going to PLAY A LITTLE GAME with Cheese. That you're so good that you could pull off some kind of crazy mafia-claim play to find the ENTIRE scumteam.
You can only have it one way s0L, you're either too newb or 2legit, you can't be both. And this is where your story falls down as far as I'm concerned.
No, it makes perfect sense. I know I can find scum. I was really certain on cheesecake, so I felt no qualms about acting on it.. It's not that big of a play to claim scum to a scumread in a situation where scum should be looking to coordinate (at least in my eyes). There wasn't that many variables to consider for that singular action, and I was pretty certain it was going to go off without a hitch because I was certain on my read and CC would be amenable to me.
That is the important distinction. I believed in my read. Being blue was just my way of entry into acting on it.
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On October 07 2013 02:04 Oatsmaster wrote: ##unvote koshi ##vote solstice
yeah he's not angry enough and he was 'forced' to claim.
pretty sure you're scum, but I already explained that mostly what I'm feeling right now is embarrassed that this is all even happening. Like thinking town originally on Koshi was a serious no-no and I mindfaked myself into it.
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On October 07 2013 02:10 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On October 07 2013 02:07 s0Lstice wrote:On October 07 2013 02:04 Oatsmaster wrote: ##unvote koshi ##vote solstice
yeah he's not angry enough and he was 'forced' to claim.
pretty sure you're scum, but I already explained that mostly what I'm feeling right now is embarrassed that this is all even happening. Like thinking town originally on Koshi was a serious no-no and I mindfaked myself into it. Pretty sure you're scum, but who the fuck doesnt get agitated/excited when they find confirmed scum? Like. OH SHIT LOL SCUMCLAIM. EZ GAME GUYS!! There is none of that from you.
Tell me exactly how I show I am agitated/excited. You are not me so you don't know. Trust me, I'm plenty of both.
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On October 07 2013 02:16 Oatsmaster wrote: You show it by being really excited that you caught scum and going YEAH MAN. SCUM RIGHT HERE.
Seriously. You are just whining about how bad you are at blue roles and we should totally believe you. You didnt even tackle Koshi's claims and say why they are fake. Just went, 'believe me or town loses'. You dont have the town Role PM. thats why you cant emulate that attitude.
You have a funny definition of whining. I've already talked about Koshi's night actions and what they mean. The answer is not much because he is scum and everything he's done with his actions is flat out WIFOM.
You are trying to be a behaviorist when you should be an analyst. There are gobs of facts to go on here and you are satisfied just chalking it up to 'oh look s0L isnt acting how I would act in his shoes and showing the proper emotions in the way that I would show them' despite the fact that you have no fucking idea what I'm feeling or how I'm expressing it right now.
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On October 07 2013 02:18 VisceraEyes wrote: I probably don't believe it. I need to think. To read. Does day end today?
VE I'm not letting you get away. You are wanting to lynch the cop right now and you need to really bite down hard on the facts.
That thing you just asked me, let me offer another viewpoint.
This would be my second scumgame ever. I replaced in. I'm here fighting tooth-and-nail and not shying away. I counter-claimed the cop after a lag time and was free-flowing and responsive as to the how and the way. I'm flattered you think I could do this as scum, but holy SHIT does this really make more sense than the alternative? Really??
I can and am doing all that because I am the fucking cop. Lynch Koshi.
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On October 07 2013 02:27 WaveofShadow wrote: Simple scenario is the most likely. Solstice is desperate so he claimed.
That's what it comes down to imo.
If this is desperation then I must have made some mistakes on the fly with my facts right? Show me.
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On October 07 2013 02:29 Koshi wrote: The only thing I dont get is why s0lstice ever thought this would work. Like cc is town now or the other scumteam are honest and respectful mafia players. This means the pool of possible scummers get really small. I am almost feeling WoS&Austin same scumteam but that is really crazy.
Like you need 6 votes on me s0lstice. How was that ever going to work unless you had the entirr other scumteam working with you. Like why not try and yet cc lynched... It makes me think you.put all eggs in CC basket and then went full funzies for your last day. But then again, you would get lynched after me. So is this not against your wincon??? You dont win when I am lynched. You just make the other scumteam win...
So yeah. You play vs own wincon or.scumteams are teamed up atm.
Probably last...
I like when scumbags make my argument for me. There's a reason it's hard to find the scum motivation for this.
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