EPTBut without looking at EVERY filter, from what I remember and then his filter, he has the most scumteam-y opposition to the Palmar lynch. No real read. No real push AGAINST, just trying to shunt it away. Palmar becomes a scumread, but less than others, and it just felt the most "OH DEAR GOD NO NO NO NO NO GOTTA STOP THIS WITHOUT LOOKING LIKE I'M SUPER STOPPING IT."
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But without looking at EVERY filter, from what I remember and then his filter, he has the most scumteam-y opposition to the Palmar lynch. No real read. No real push AGAINST, just trying to shunt it away. Palmar becomes a scumread, but less than others, and it just felt the most "OH DEAR GOD NO NO NO NO NO GOTTA STOP THIS WITHOUT LOOKING LIKE I'M SUPER STOPPING IT." | ||
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On October 05 2013 09:05 VisceraEyes wrote: You're town and didn't do it in the same way. You were against it, then unsure, and also have basically been confirmed so nobody cares. He was against it, then scummy on Palmar but NEVER for lynching him, and always trying to drive things elsewhere.I mean - I argued against it. Just saying. | ||
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On October 05 2013 02:53 Pandain wrote: ##Unvote ##Vote Palmar ##Unvote ##Vote VA There now he should be in the lead Based on a faulty vote count of mine, he voted/unvoted so that Palmar would get lynched over FT (at the time). | ||
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On October 05 2013 10:56 VayneAuthority wrote: If you have magical Koshi-is-lying and VE-isn't-confirmed information, then speak.it is not clear by any means that you are town, so you are pretty lucky you have the cop check. You are pushing into 2 of the most active posters, one of which I know is town. If you don't, he's town. Maybe he's missing shockwaves, but you KNOW he's town. It's not "luck", it's not "not clear that [VE is] town", he IS. So who (other than very-very-very-likely-VE) do you KNOW is town and why? | ||
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On October 05 2013 11:12 VisceraEyes wrote: What is with you people and horse feces? Like...I have ACTUALLY noticed that word all over this game.He's saying he's one of "the most active posters" austin. He's saying that I'm scummy for pushing him. Do you believe this horseshit? On September 29 2013 09:20 WaveofShadow wrote: Thanks for that. Glad you identified that town is shit; I did that at the beginning of the game. The bolded is absolute horseshit. There is plenty to make reads on, it just depends on how useless and lazy one is. On September 30 2013 07:09 WaveofShadow wrote: This screams of horseshit btw. Just tell the truth. Lying as town sucks. On October 02 2013 01:54 WaveofShadow wrote: Also I will not be around for lynch so you guys had better fucking keep your votes on FT. None of these horseshit last second shenanigans. I'm going to have to read the CR/VA interaction a little bit more closely at some point because I feel I will be able to determine the D3 lynch from that. I highly doubt all of the power players around that conversation are all town. Shiao: bad town for bringing up new lynch in Mr CC with 4h or so to go, or scum? One of those things that seems unlikely for a scum to push a random mislynch so late in the day, but somehow I don't think Shiao would follow that rule. VE: DO SOMETHING. If anyone wants to talk to me about something specific I have about 30 min before I'm gone until well after deadline. On October 05 2013 10:29 WaveofShadow wrote: Wait what? My activity is framed defensively? Or that post? I've been on the fucking offense all game. You can't just pick and choose that one post and discount all of my activity because now I'm defending myself from suspicion. That's horseshit. On October 05 2013 11:12 VisceraEyes wrote: You guys spent way too much time together in that Aperture QTHe's saying he's one of "the most active posters" austin. He's saying that I'm scummy for pushing him. Do you believe this horseshit? | ||
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On October 05 2013 11:20 VayneAuthority wrote: WoS has posted more than cheese, CR, and at least in my head, solstice and oats. All under consideration.guess ill go "play" like FT, cheesecake, CR and the gang and not post at all, you seem to like hearing your own voice But this isn't an activity lynch at this point. We've got flips, we've got days of play, we've got SOME associations at this point. Is there another player in the maybe list that you think fits the bill for being on that scumteam better than WoS? Cuz you said Oats. But you didn't really get specific beyond Oat's activity. Anything else beyond that? On October 05 2013 05:48 VayneAuthority wrote: and I think oats is the last banger. Would explain palmar and his huge drop in activity. On October 05 2013 09:20 VayneAuthority wrote: yea oats makes sense to me as the last scum more then WoS. this isn't town oats regardless. he's quite active and going ham in that other game...notice how once SnB died that palmar and oats have dropped off the face of the earth. | ||
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On October 05 2013 11:28 VayneAuthority wrote: You surmise some dudes. If you know; you're mafia yourself really all the evidence you need. You were in nuclear, he just hides as scum. thats what he does. Add in the fact that its basically a process of elimination game (and I know 1 member more than you) and I don't really need to expand beyond that.  In nuclear D2, scumOats missile defended scumAce. He didn't just hide all game, he did things that, if scumbuddies had flipped, would have made him look a bit wonky. Not like CR has been around after the lynch either, it's not an oats-specific thing. If you're saying oats is the likeliest 3rd member of that team SOLELY because he's been inactive but is active in another game, and inactive after the palmar lynch, that is not particularly convincing. | ||
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On October 05 2013 11:54 WaveofShadow wrote: (I still don't think oats is mafia. Also, he's totes not the third guy, at least not one what I went looking for so far)I'm sorry I had to tear up your association shit like that, Austin, I still <3 u. Promise. If you want you can try and peg me as a member of the other scumteam, but I'm sorry Oats/SnB/Palmar makes more sense than me. I was going to say that people would have more luck pinning CR as the third member, but that actually looks unlikely given his direct comments on Palmar. Like, in his case, he says Palmar might be good lynch candidate, but here is specifically why I don't want to lynch him, scenarios, what we learn. | ||
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On October 05 2013 12:04 WaveofShadow wrote: You have, bunches of people have. My oats read isn't based on association, it's just a couple things he said.Oats is 100% mafia. Whether he's on their team or not. Stop looking towards association for all of your shit. People have picked up on it at multiple points in the thread. A town Oats is wayyy more aggressive (to the point of idiocy), drops reads all over the fucking place, and most importantly PUSHES. Oats this game has done none of this, and blended into the background so scummily I had forgotten he was even IN the game at one point (and I think someone else mentioned that too). Just dropping questions here and there that go nowhere most of the game. I've stated all of this before, check my filter. But to the extent we're actively trying to hunt "third dude" and not "mafia", we kind of need to use associations there. Unless you know of a better way to figure out what team a specific scummy dude is on. | ||
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On October 05 2013 12:08 WaveofShadow wrote: Ya I'm not entirely sure. You haven't commented on my comments on your case though. Do you still believe I am that third member? Your read fluctuated between town, maybe scum, can't read, etc. etc. You can't go "Well if I were scum I wouldn't say I couldn't read him I would give him weak reads" because you also did that. A lot of the other stuff, the Palmar post (which I didn't even notice the year on) and the jokey past game stuff doesn't really matter, it's not the meat of anything, just neat stuff I found. What matters it the specific way you interacted with the possibility of a Palmar lynch. More than anyone else, you appeared to want to call Palmar scummy while NOT wanting to lynch him. Not because of a zealous fury to get VA lynched (Pandain), or whatever reason he had but who cares cuz he's town (VE), but because you just wanted to lynch other people instead that you found scummier. It's ENTIRELY possible that this is all a coincidence and Palmar's scumbuddy wasn't around or whatever. But it don't look good. Actions. Actions speak louder than words. Pretty much in terms of a scale of loudness, you're looking at actions > words > the whispers of soul-eating bears. | ||
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On October 05 2013 12:13 WaveofShadow wrote: Naw, I'm headed to bed soon and watching the VODs tomorrow so I don't have to wait 80000 hours for the first game to start and 20000 hours between each game.Look I'm watching League finals right now so I'll be around to some degree. If you want to talk and shoot some shit, I'm around. I don't think I have ever tried to be anything but transparent to people this game so at the very least I'd really like to shake this scumread people seem to have on me, but mostly I want town to win a game for once so we can always hunt some scum too. I am going to look more at some other filters tomorrow. Maybe someone else looks like they really fit the bill. Who knows? I will say that you are very unlikely to get any traction with me by arguing your own filter. I do think it makes you look scummy, and make you look associated with Palmar, and that snb's filter shows a possible associated with you as well. So I'm reading, I'm listening, but in a "I'm reading this but I also think this dude is mafia" way. If you're not third dude then third dude is someone else. Go find third dude (or other scum or whatevs). I'll be around some tomorrow and can chat then if you're on. | ||
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And yeah, it's a bit silly to tell you to solve the game. But whatever. Do what you want, make some posts, maybe get Oats to scumclaim if he's actually scum. If you're town, channel your post-lynch motivation and your inner-VA to get some correct reads and rub them in my face later (with the caveat that inner-VA refers to how much you relish rubbing something in someone else's face and not correctness of reads). Or some wrong reads and then rub then in my face. Or someone else's face. | ||
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On October 05 2013 13:02 s0Lstice wrote: Don't know! Probably cuz I'm chatting with someone I think is mafia? austin I still want to know why you are so slimy Or you're imagining things. Or I'm enjoying this game a little too much right at the moment. I will admit that I spent some time watching some episodes of Torchwood today that involved some sort of thing emitting some sort of slime. Also possible that you're picking up on the slime I was looking at earlier. | ||
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On October 05 2013 13:07 VisceraEyes wrote: (You have a towncheck)Because he demands actions speak for townies, but can't call me scum in spite of every action I take being anti-town. That's why. | ||
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On October 05 2013 13:13 VisceraEyes wrote: Sorry, yes. But townies also taking anti-town actions doesn't mean they don't matter at all. Still more likely to be from scum, and the particular way wave half-fought a Palmar lynch DOES matter imo. It's a sizeable entry on WoS's mafia christmas lynch.My point is that obviously your premise is flawed when you start from the actions to judge someone's towniness because every action I've taken has been anti-town and if you believe Koshi, you know I'm town. Townies take anti-town action every page of every game. On October 05 2013 13:45 s0Lstice wrote: I think you're ... stretching that. When I first read CC's unvote, I thought you were going way overboard, he unvoted the guy, is having a little fun, etc. I can see that comment as EITHER a joke or a nefarious unvote while still being suspicious. I'd like to hear what you think of this austin As far as the VE vs. oats thing goes, CC specifically says it was a test for Oats. I don't know that VE can fail a test that isn't for him. I do think that's worth noting that, even if CC is only concerned with Oat's reaction there, he doesn't appear to NOTICE that VE gets "caught" in the trap. If that makes sense. Not that VE fails and oats passes but the reads are wonky, but more that CC is tunneled in on what Oats does and doesn't notice if anyone else trips it. Not predetermined conclusions, but just...not a real test. Just a thing to do with Oats. | ||
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Like, you pull out a million Oats mentions Palmar bits, but you don't DO anything with them. Are you saying that Oats is mafia and on Palmar's mafia team? Because if you don't think that, then Oats mentioning Palmar a bunch doesn't really DO anything at all. And if you think he's on Palmar's team...that's a LOT of associating. Don't buy it. I think you look a bit scummier for the post on Oats, but then you go and poke at Ray who I would have on your team. Is curious. | ||
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On October 06 2013 00:29 Mr. Cheesecake wrote: Someone give me one reason Oats is TOWN. On October 02 2013 23:53 Oatsmaster wrote: If Im FT in the position he is in, I would totally take a scumshot because it means someone better than me doesnt get shot. On October 02 2013 23:55 Oatsmaster wrote: lol its probably the nullest thing ive said all game. The towniest thing was when I called you cop I read these as very very townie comments. Spur of the moment, oddly joking about being scum (given that he was saying FT was scum). Not a super duper great one this late in the game, but those posts smelled townie. | ||
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