EPT@Mysterious cop duo. Don't shoot me.
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Grackaroni
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@Mysterious cop duo. Don't shoot me. | ||
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WaveofShadow
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Koshi
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Palmar
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Koshi - Probably town, if scum he played getting hit by the RNG pretty well. VisceraEyes - Keep an eye out on how much of a leadership role he takes. He was very townie early on in day 1, but I'm somewhat unsure how much of a role he truly played in the yamato lynch. I need to re-read. If he starts fading into the background reconsider, but for now town. Oatsmaster - Confrontational and an asshole, completely useless too, so that kinda fits him being town Blazinghand - Probably town, needs to be more in the forefront. WaveofShadow - Too active, too free-flowing and engages easily with people to be scum. Pandain - His case was ok. If he keeps trying he's town. Pandain is awful as scum anyway so he'll fuck up sooner or later if he is. Haven't analysed/read at all: Chairman Ray Mr. Cheesecake VayneAuthority austinmcc Only done a quick read/null: strongandbig - if I die he's less likely (only slightly) to be scum (unlikely his scumteam would shoot me after he spends time creating a case on me), but I have no idea really, I think his case was wrong because of bads, not because of malicious. ShiaoPi - One of the best candidates for re-reading. He hasn't done anything worth noting all game, at least that I noticed. I'm going to look into him when I have time. raynpelikoneet - Don't really know. Grackaroni - Again, read some, no conclusion Scummy people hiro protagonist - His start was awfully conservative. I still haven't spent time looking at his later posts, but yeah. RebirthOfLeGenD - Said he'd catch up, didn't. FirmTofu - See my earlier analysis. Haven't paid attention to him since. ------------------- please don't take this list as gospel, my reads on night 1 (especially with a weekend start) are okay, but not great. I'm prety sure most of the scum is in my null/scum zone, but if someone does something stupid, don't let the come back and go "BUT PALMAR SAID I WAS TOWN". Anyway, I won't have time to play much today. Writing this in case I can't be back before deadline. | ||
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Grackaroni
United States9846 Posts
Three times yesterday Palmar flung shit at people and made absolutely no conclusions off of it. Palmar On September 27 2013 08:59 Palmar wrote: This is like the third time you point to something in your behavior is inconsistent with being mafia and therefore you cannot possibly be mafia. On September 27 2013 09:35 Palmar wrote: I didn't say you were defending you, I was just pointing out a pattern, the context is irrelevant. This is all he says on the matter. He doesn't explain why scum are more likely to do this than town nor could he prove it if he wanted to. People are misreading me after just playing scum it's pretty natural that I would make some arguments like these. Then instead of pressuring me he drops me entirely and moves on elsewhere. Next Palmar flings shit on Hiro Protagonist On September 27 2013 18:42 Palmar wrote: More patterns! My favorite part is that he repeatedly asks people to give out reads and opinions, but doesn't provide any himself. I think the only read he's given so far is a "null" read on me, with absolutely no meat on it, just a "Palmar is hard to read". No attempt at analysis or anything. Not sure if this makes him scum though tbh, Hiro is notoriously timid even as town, at least he was when I last played with him, but this doesn't look good. Must evaluate. Once again points out all of these patterns without reaching any conclusion that Hiro is more scummy because of it, saying at the end that this could be scum hiro or town hiro. He then never follows up with a case on Hiro that actually reaches a conclusion that Hiro is scum. On September 27 2013 20:39 Palmar wrote: I like Blazinghand's big post on FT, but also want to add my own perspective. This exchange is very, very interesting. First off, take note that everything FirmTofu has done in this game was done in a span of half an hour, ie: in a single session. This is important because he intentionally drifts away from his conclusion that can be seen in the posts above. He seems quite certain Grack is scum, albeit with little reasoning. But his logic is completely off. If he thinks the chance of Grack flipping scum is so high, why doesn't he pile on? After all, trying to scumhunt the entire team on day 1 is completely retarded, you find scum, and you run with it. Additionally, ShiaoPi is 100% not the only person that falls into this category. I don't particularly mind the ShiaoPi vote at this point, but note again the timing is important. Less than 20 minutes after calling Grack probable scum, FT is voting for someone else with equally awful reasons. Again, I don't mind voting ShiaoPi, but WHY does FT vote him over Grack? That's the important question here. Nothing in FT's posts explains his choice to do so, there is no logical reason for him, from the information he presents us with, to go after SP over FT, yet he does it. Also, I don't give a shit about you going to bed or reading other games FT, stop with the excuses. Strike 3. Throw shit on FT. His case doesn't say why FT is scum because of what he did instead he spends a long time explaining why FT is being illogical, which both town and scum are capable of being. Palmar later admits that he's not sure if FT is acting illogically because he is bad or because he is scum: On September 27 2013 23:49 Palmar wrote: I wouldn't know, never played with the guy. Maybe he's just bad. Doesn't mean I'm going to ignore it when he does stupid or strange things. On September 27 2013 23:59 Palmar wrote: No it shouldn't. I'm not trying to kill him yet. When I'm trying to kill someone the whole thread knows. SO, which scum are you trying to kill? Nobody because Palmar doesn't give a shit who gets lynched. He hasn't made a single case with a conclusion which explains why the player is likely to be scum and he hasn't pressured anybody. Both things that Palmar usually does as town S&B is correct. self-admittedly Palmar's best day is day1 and he's shown he doesn't care. More often than not useless Palmar = scum Palmar and that is what I am seeing here. | ||
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Grackaroni
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Grackaroni
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WaveofShadow
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He scum. | ||
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Grackaroni
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Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
What? | ||
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Grackaroni
United States9846 Posts
On September 30 2013 01:17 Koshi wrote: So Grack. Is Palmar still scum? I think so, it's possible he's just useless on weekends but there has been a definite lack of caring and I think his cases are scummy because he never proves why people are more likely scum. Hiro/FT are good people to check though because I don't foresee them becoming useful in the future. | ||
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Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
This has been scientifically proven. | ||
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
On September 30 2013 01:03 Grackaroni wrote: Palmar's town reads are not bad. Don't really agree with BH/Pandain. Who says this about a scumread? | ||
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Grackaroni
United States9846 Posts
If Palmar is scum he only has 2 teammates. I don't think it's a problem that I agree with a lot of the people he lists as town. | ||
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
On September 30 2013 01:32 Grackaroni wrote: If Palmar is scum he only has 2 teammates. I don't think it's a problem that I agree with a lot of the people he lists as town. Thats not the point. Its hard for me to explain. But its really odd. | ||
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Grackaroni
United States9846 Posts
On September 30 2013 01:40 Oatsmaster wrote: Thats not the point. Its hard for me to explain. But its really odd. you're used to seeing people agree with town reads not scum reads. | ||
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
On September 30 2013 01:43 Grackaroni wrote: you're used to seeing people agree with town reads not scum reads. Not that you dumbass. | ||
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Grackaroni
United States9846 Posts
lol it probably is that. | ||
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funny that they 2 people on TL with that tag play Mafia.
