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On September 29 2013 04:41 Chairman Ray wrote:
Do we wanna talk about why the transition onto Yamato has been so smooth? Like I mean when we were all on Koshi, there was heavy resistance. After switching onto Yamato, I haven't seen much effort to get back onto Koshi. I'm kinda worried here.
Irrelevant. At maximum 2 people would resist the lynch. It's highly likely most of the mafia is fairly inactive
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On September 29 2013 04:45 VisceraEyes wrote:
You could say I'm resisting it by being too lazy to BBcode on my phone. That make you feel any better dumplin?
I bbcoded that voteswitch on mine. You lazy scum?
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No matter what happens I'm going to call Yamato bad post game
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On phone will do later.
Short version is: the worst player in the game gets lynched day 1 . Regardless of alignment.
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Oats is right bh is drunk go home
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On September 29 2013 05:06 yamato77 wrote:
It is not my fault I got lynched.
No one scumhunted all day, people just listened to loud idiots like BH all day.
Fuck all of you.
10/10 would lynch again
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On September 29 2013 05:21 yamato77 wrote:
Awful.
You are. I agree.
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On September 29 2013 06:11 Chairman Ray wrote:
Should we stop posting reads and analysis during the nightphase to make it harder to guess blues?
Why do people think this is a good idea?
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On September 29 2013 08:03 Grackaroni wrote:
Hey Palmar, hurry up and solve the game already. I foresee an endgamed in my future. Want to talk out reads with me?
Not now, I seriously thought we were beyond starting games on weekends, it's dumb.
But later.
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Probably Town
Koshi - Probably town, if scum he played getting hit by the RNG pretty well.
VisceraEyes - Keep an eye out on how much of a leadership role he takes. He was very townie early on in day 1, but I'm somewhat unsure how much of a role he truly played in the yamato lynch. I need to re-read. If he starts fading into the background reconsider, but for now town.
Oatsmaster - Confrontational and an asshole, completely useless too, so that kinda fits him being town
Blazinghand - Probably town, needs to be more in the forefront.
WaveofShadow - Too active, too free-flowing and engages easily with people to be scum.
Pandain - His case was ok. If he keeps trying he's town. Pandain is awful as scum anyway so he'll fuck up sooner or later if he is.
Haven't analysed/read at all:
Chairman Ray
Mr. Cheesecake
VayneAuthority
austinmcc
Only done a quick read/null:
strongandbig - if I die he's less likely (only slightly) to be scum (unlikely his scumteam would shoot me after he spends time creating a case on me), but I have no idea really, I think his case was wrong because of bads, not because of malicious.
ShiaoPi - One of the best candidates for re-reading. He hasn't done anything worth noting all game, at least that I noticed. I'm going to look into him when I have time.
raynpelikoneet - Don't really know.
Grackaroni - Again, read some, no conclusion
Scummy people
hiro protagonist - His start was awfully conservative. I still haven't spent time looking at his later posts, but yeah.
RebirthOfLeGenD - Said he'd catch up, didn't.
FirmTofu - See my earlier analysis. Haven't paid attention to him since.
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please don't take this list as gospel, my reads on night 1 (especially with a weekend start) are okay, but not great. I'm prety sure most of the scum is in my null/scum zone, but if someone does something stupid, don't let the come back and go "BUT PALMAR SAID I WAS TOWN".
Anyway, I won't have time to play much today. Writing this in case I can't be back before deadline.
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On September 30 2013 02:26 Pandain wrote:
Sorry guys I asked for a replacement but apparently there are no more. Going to have to catch up, going to do individual analysis's instead of comprehensive reads. Anyone give me a quick catch-up? I'll re-read thread during my lull periods.
Is it night or day?
I actually do that btw, when I think I've conclusively found scum I am one of the greatest tunnelers around these parts.
None of the cases Grack points out are conclusive, thus I did not do much with them. The closest one is my point on FT, but when I brought it up people repeatedly defended him based on the fact that apparently he's just awful at mafia and a lynchbait, so I kinda backed off.
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Grack is probably town though, while his conclusion is incorrect, the premise isn't. The case requires careful reading of my posts and tbh, genuinely calling me out like that is sorta risky to scum.
I re-read my exchange with reyn yesterday. This is the important part:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=19862253
He falsely claimed that I had given a stance on yamato, when in fact I hadn't. Don't forget this. He tried to use something I never said against me.
Also, because no one commented on it the first time around, read this too if I die, it's not much but...
On September 28 2013 21:19 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On September 28 2013 16:51 hiro protagonist wrote:
Sense everyone else is given out there scum teams:
VE/FT/ and mayyyyyybeeeee ShiaoPo Only one team? Is that consistent with the amount you're scumhunting? #Scumslip #lynchthisguy
I actually think it could be ^^
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if it wasn't clear, Reyn is a very good candidate for mafia, and should be reclassified in my earlier list to fall into the mafia group based on this.
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On September 30 2013 04:35 Grackaroni wrote:
You do admit day 1 is your best day though. When was the last time you just failed to find anyone you thought was likely mafia while actively posting.
day 1 is my strongest day because generally I'm very good at finding townies.
I had less time on day 1 than usual, and I had a good reason to think yamato was scum.
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On September 30 2013 06:21 Grackaroni wrote:Show nested quote +On September 30 2013 06:15 Pandain wrote:
Grack what do you think about FT? I know you've been afk for most of the thread, but what are your current thoughts? Your case is wrong about his lack of a stance on RNG and I've already said what I wanted to say about the vote but he's been completely useless after saying he wanted to pressure as much scum as possible and hasn't done anything town-like so I guess I'm up for lynching him
This is, as you probably know, a change of heart from day 1, where you were the number one guy trying to shut down cases on FT.
I understand your original defense was simply "Well I expect him to be bad because he's always bad". I'm just getting a clarification, do you still put no value in the points made by me or even bh back on day one, and is your sole reason for changing your mind the fact that he "hasn't done anything town-like".
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On September 30 2013 17:24 hiro protagonist wrote:
CR hasent been on my radar. skimming his filter, hes pretty genuine in his assessments. would not lynch today.
Please use specific examples and explain why the bolded is true.
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On September 30 2013 08:03 VayneAuthority wrote:Show nested quote +On September 30 2013 07:57 WaveofShadow wrote:On September 30 2013 07:55 VayneAuthority wrote:On September 30 2013 07:52 WaveofShadow wrote:On September 30 2013 07:49 VayneAuthority wrote:
unless you want to claim down syndrome cop WoS then I suggest you keep up with the thread Oooo them's fightin' words. Whatever I've given up on getting you lynched. If you're town then great, people can be stuck with you at LYLO and lose. If you're scum, then you'll win and maybe people will learn their lesson not to leave you alive, ever. FT is the target for today. I have another couple in mind but no time to explain atm. My percentage for identifying scum at endgame is pretty high. Look at my town game will posts and you will find they are usually pretty good. You just have some sort of sick confirmation bias against me for being the worst player of all time or something. Have you ever pushed a lynch through as town? Identifying scum means shit all other than giving you a little pen0r boost that you can lord over people in situations like this. If you don't get scum LYNCHED then fuck your percentages. I'ma let you continue to contribute though---I think it's particularly hilarious that you think the entirety of D1 was useless. Looking forward to you outing both scumteams! I don't care whether other people or agree with me or not. So no I don't really care too much to "push" lynches. Your condescending tone is very charming and I look forward to future chats.
So you don't care that you're awful at mafia?
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I just read again through Shiaopi's filter, he's not a bad lynch either, he's done almost nothing. I would like to point out that along with Grack, he helped push suspicion off FT.
Shiaopi do you still think FT is town, do you think his reasons for wanting to lynch you are legit? And why do you think VE is scum?
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On September 30 2013 19:46 Grackaroni wrote:Show nested quote +On September 30 2013 18:44 Palmar wrote:On September 30 2013 06:21 Grackaroni wrote:On September 30 2013 06:15 Pandain wrote:
Grack what do you think about FT? I know you've been afk for most of the thread, but what are your current thoughts? Your case is wrong about his lack of a stance on RNG and I've already said what I wanted to say about the vote but he's been completely useless after saying he wanted to pressure as much scum as possible and hasn't done anything town-like so I guess I'm up for lynching him This is, as you probably know, a change of heart from day 1, where you were the number one guy trying to shut down cases on FT. I understand your original defense was simply "Well I expect him to be bad because he's always bad". I'm just getting a clarification, do you still put no value in the points made by me or even bh back on day one, and is your sole reason for changing your mind the fact that he "hasn't done anything town-like". Yes. Your read on me is town or scum?
I'm leaning town on you.
I disagree with your stance on FT, but our conclusions are compatible, so I guess it's a non-issue.
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ie: I think you're right for the wrong reasons.
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