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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25560 Posts
September 27 2013 18:31 GMT
#767
/facepalm
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25560 Posts
September 27 2013 19:31 GMT
#823
um yeah i was in favor of rng lynch not any more, i found ppl i wanted to lynch

like honestly I could have rnged at any time but first yamato then FT seemed like a better idea to me than rnging a lynch. I figured I'd defuse the whole "rng" situation by actually rolling the dice so that people would get on my FT wagon. just like how a policy lynch seems like a good idea until you have a scumread, so too the rng lynch seems.

also yeah FT is obviously trying to appease me, very funny FT
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25560 Posts
September 27 2013 19:43 GMT
#830
On September 28 2013 04:32 VisceraEyes wrote:
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On September 28 2013 04:31 Blazinghand wrote:
um yeah i was in favor of rng lynch not any more, i found ppl i wanted to lynch

like honestly I could have rnged at any time but first yamato then FT seemed like a better idea to me than rnging a lynch. I figured I'd defuse the whole "rng" situation by actually rolling the dice so that people would get on my FT wagon. just like how a policy lynch seems like a good idea until you have a scumread, so too the rng lynch seems.

also yeah FT is obviously trying to appease me, very funny FT

Explain your FT suspicion to me as if you thought I was an idiot, which shouldn't be hard given that you expect me to believe this bullshit.


So basically, I view a good way of distinguishing town from scum as "town can do some things more easily than scum can". Obviously, you would probably expect town to be promoting a good town environment, pushing reads, and taking strong stances. However, scum can also do these things. A skilled scum player (say, myself) could easily push reads and take strong stances. So how do we tell a scum player from a town player? Well, a big part of this is the player's mindset.

It's one thing to make a push. But it's another thing to make a well-reasoned push. Scum can easily fake "X is scum", but not as easily fake "X is scum and here's my thought process as to why it happened!" because faking a mindset and chain of logic is inherently more difficult. When town players (most of the time) have a scumread, in their mind there is a REASON for it. This reason naturally comes through because they explain it to other townies in an attempt to get their target lynched.

This explanation and reasoning is called a "push" or "case" most of the time.

FT, in dropping his vote on Shiaopi (and dropping some mad suspicion on grack), did not show his mindset, his reasoning, his case. Someone astutely noted that given what FT has said, grack would be the natural vote! FT was very suspicious of grack and actually gave reasons (albeit shitty reasons) why grack might be scum. However, instead, with almost no explanation, FT voted ShiaoPi. When questioned on it later, he said,

On September 28 2013 03:05 FirmTofu wrote:
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On September 27 2013 15:45 Blazinghand wrote:
Like, the reason the vote on shiaopi is a shit vote is because of how you're framing it. "ShiaoPi is playing below full potential" when the dude was only in thread for an hour and dropped some one-liners is bad reasoning. Like, instead say "ShiaoPi is lurking" because the reason you're voting for him doesn't have shit to do with his potential, or one-liners, or whatever. You're voting him because he was only in-thread for an hour, and barely posted. You're voting him for lurking.

If you're gonna policy a guy for lurking, man up and admit it. Don't try to look like you have some serious analysis going on, FT-- you don't.

Of course it is a shit vote. I wanted ShiaoPi to contribute. It has served its purpose from what I can tell of ShiaoPi's filter. It provided the impetus for a contributing ShiaoPi. That, in itself, is reason enough to justify my actions.

I knew my "reasoning" was weak at best. Consider my motivations of my action; consider the result I am trying to get.



and earlier when questioned about his grack suspicion and asked for reasoning, he said,

On September 27 2013 15:41 FirmTofu wrote:
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On September 27 2013 15:39 Grackaroni wrote:
On September 27 2013 15:38 FirmTofu wrote:
On September 27 2013 15:36 Grackaroni wrote:
On September 27 2013 15:18 FirmTofu wrote:
Ok, my first impressions are that Yamato, WoS, and VE look super town. Grack is probably scum. His posting is terrible.

I've never played a legit game with BH or Palmar, so I can't read them yet.

Thanks for the detailed explanations. Care to explain?

We've already discussed you quite enough. There are at least 5 other scummers out there. I'm interested in discussing as many people as possible. I'll discuss you if you end up being the #1 or #2 candidate later in the day.

Well I can't just sit here and let you call me scum without giving any reasoning.

You can, and you will.

I'm going to actually go to bed now. ^_^



and he never followed up.

His only follow-up on return (besides backtracking his shiaopi vote, a VERY EASY thing for him to do since he provided no reasoning) was...

On September 28 2013 03:30 FirmTofu wrote:
##vote: Koshi
I'm keeping my word here. BH's solution to the RNG problem is quite inventive. I will double check if it was truly random, but if it was I'm sticking with Koshi.

30% are pretty good odds.

BH, why aren't you voting Koshi?

On September 28 2013 03:38 FirmTofu wrote:
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On September 28 2013 03:35 WaveofShadow wrote:
And where is Rayn?

Absent and defending me. Everytime that's happened, he's been scum.


and of course calling me town. Where's his grack suspicion? Did he drop it for the RNG vote? Admittedly, he stated support for the RNG vote earlier, so the fact that he cast his vote for the RNG isn't terrible.

But he scolds town to continue scumhunting, and does not do it himself.

Where's the pressure on Rayne and Grack, his two supposed scumreads? Where's the attempt to hunt scum? Where's the accountability?

There is none. FT is scum.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25560 Posts
September 27 2013 19:51 GMT
#834
Hmmm okay so if there are meta issues there are meta issues. I guess I'll take a look at his previous games and see if he does this as town ._.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25560 Posts
September 27 2013 19:58 GMT
#838
On September 28 2013 04:53 VisceraEyes wrote:
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On September 28 2013 04:51 Blazinghand wrote:
Hmmm okay so if there are meta issues there are meta issues. I guess I'll take a look at his previous games and see if he does this as town ._.

I'd rather you just say that you'll vote Yamato with me if Koshi doesn't get the support it so rightly deserves.

I'm down for a yamato lynch.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25560 Posts
September 27 2013 20:02 GMT
#841
On September 28 2013 05:00 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2013 04:58 Blazinghand wrote:
On September 28 2013 04:53 VisceraEyes wrote:
On September 28 2013 04:51 Blazinghand wrote:
Hmmm okay so if there are meta issues there are meta issues. I guess I'll take a look at his previous games and see if he does this as town ._.

I'd rather you just say that you'll vote Yamato with me if Koshi doesn't get the support it so rightly deserves.

I'm down for a yamato lynch.

Then I don't care if you lied about RNG. ^^

._. no lies happened noob
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25560 Posts
September 27 2013 20:08 GMT
#844
On September 28 2013 05:04 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2013 05:02 Blazinghand wrote:
On September 28 2013 05:00 VisceraEyes wrote:
On September 28 2013 04:58 Blazinghand wrote:
On September 28 2013 04:53 VisceraEyes wrote:
On September 28 2013 04:51 Blazinghand wrote:
Hmmm okay so if there are meta issues there are meta issues. I guess I'll take a look at his previous games and see if he does this as town ._.

I'd rather you just say that you'll vote Yamato with me if Koshi doesn't get the support it so rightly deserves.

I'm down for a yamato lynch.

Then I don't care if you lied about RNG. ^^

._. no lies happened noob

You lied about supporting RNG. Don't deny it it's explicit in your posts. I don't care, I'm just saying you're a liar. Embrace it.

I didn't lie about shit and you're a dirty liar for calling me a liar.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25560 Posts
September 27 2013 20:09 GMT
#845
Like I changed my mind man. It happens.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25560 Posts
September 27 2013 20:45 GMT
#856
So reading koshi's filter is a pain. He's still doing lots of one-liners, as he did before. Less interactions/asking/questions/taking stands, which seems bad. FT and yamato both higher prio imo
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25560 Posts
September 27 2013 20:49 GMT
#859
I'm not lying about his filter being a pain. And reading golden sun for a comparison filter? ack.

btw if we end up rando lynching Koshi i take all credit as king of the rando lynch
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25560 Posts
September 27 2013 21:10 GMT
#875
your statements and of questions are of no relevance to me yamato
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25560 Posts
September 27 2013 21:16 GMT
#882
On September 28 2013 06:12 yamato77 wrote:
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On September 28 2013 06:10 Blazinghand wrote:
your statements and of questions are of no relevance to me yamato

You policy voted me. Since when is that a good way to find mafia?

Right now I think you're full of shit.


vote me or can it.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25560 Posts
September 27 2013 21:19 GMT
#886
On September 28 2013 06:18 yamato77 wrote:
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On September 28 2013 06:18 VisceraEyes wrote:
Like BH isn't interested at all in trying to figure out peoples' alignments. He's not trying to clarify peoples' stances or get information from people. All he's interested in is attempting to appear contributory.

Precisely.

i don't see a vote
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25560 Posts
September 27 2013 21:22 GMT
#891
like imo this weird posturing from yamato just makes him look scummier. I think he's trying to feel for some kind of wagon on me, or maybe discredit me? Like, if he really thinks I'm scum, why wouldn't he just vote me? yamato is very aggressive and a town yamato wouldn't hesitate.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25560 Posts
September 27 2013 21:22 GMT
#892
On September 28 2013 06:22 yamato77 wrote:
We all know me voting for BH right now doesn't do much.

He won't do anything different, and I won't have my vote to slap someone else with that might.

If I feel like he needs to die, it will happen.


Oh, sure, that's a great reason. NOT
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25560 Posts
September 27 2013 21:24 GMT
#895
On September 28 2013 06:23 yamato77 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2013 06:22 Blazinghand wrote:
like imo this weird posturing from yamato just makes him look scummier. I think he's trying to feel for some kind of wagon on me, or maybe discredit me? Like, if he really thinks I'm scum, why wouldn't he just vote me? yamato is very aggressive and a town yamato wouldn't hesitate.

You are quite retarded as town.

so are you saying i'm town or what
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25560 Posts
September 27 2013 21:36 GMT
#908
hm ok i'm down for yamato over FT even
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25560 Posts
September 28 2013 00:06 GMT
#954
Koshi I don't understand what you're mad at me for. I'm not even voting you. I just upgraded the RNG debate. Are you mad that I HAPPENED to roll you?
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25560 Posts
September 28 2013 02:40 GMT
#1007
man if koshi flips scum you guys are gonna think i'm scum for not rng lynch him what bullshit is this. i bet if he flips town you'll think i'm scum too for other shit reasons. typical. just typical
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25560 Posts
September 28 2013 02:40 GMT
#1008
it's fine though, i'm pretty pro, i won't get lynched
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