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raynpelikoneet
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Koshi
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GG WP all. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
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Koshi
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But game is won so yippie! Day 3 to Day 6 would have been 4 scum lynches in a row. Pretty impressive. A bit less impressive because they all scumclaimed :D | ||
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raynpelikoneet
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Koshi
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Look at how you, VE were treated because thread knew you were town. If you look at austin and how much work he put in, in a normal game he would be untouchable just because of that. | ||
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Koshi
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On October 12 2013 23:18 raynpelikoneet wrote: lol, i just realized. Everyone but SnB claimed scum.. :D Palmar didn't but FT being afk helped town there. | ||
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Koshi
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300 pages pretty good though. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
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On October 12 2013 23:19 Koshi wrote: But confirming people as town is superpowerful. Look at how you, VE were treated because thread knew you were town. If you look at austin and how much work he put in, in a normal game he would be untouchable just because of that. Unfortunately for Austin he started playing imbalancebly good when scum kinda needed to bus (D4 ->). It really was more beneficial for Ballers to get themselves killed over Pandain, as it does not reduce scum KP. I PoE'd Vayne after Palmar's flip and WoS on D4 - N4 with his actions/questions to Solstice/CR. Austin was just a "could still be scum and capable of this play" and i can't read Mr.CC. When i could fully trust WoS it helped a lot, and CC not trying was a final nail in his coffin, it would have been wrong in any way to lynch Austin over him, but if CC flipped town i would have lynched Austin next. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
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On October 12 2013 23:20 Koshi wrote: Palmar didn't but FT being afk helped town there. They both did claim scum with Pandain at the start of the game. :D | ||
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Koshi
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On October 12 2013 23:24 raynpelikoneet wrote: Unfortunately for Austin he started playing imbalancebly good when scum kinda needed to bus (D4 ->). It really was more beneficial for Ballers to get themselves killed over Pandain, as it does not reduce scum KP. I PoE'd Vayne after Palmar's flip and WoS on D4 - N4 with his actions/questions to Solstice/CR. Austin was just a "could still be scum and capable of this play" and i can't read Mr.CC. When i could fully trust WoS it helped a lot, and CC not trying was a final nail in his coffin, it would have been wrong in any way to lynch Austin over him, but if CC flipped town i would have lynched Austin next. Yeah his case on CC was spot on. 100% truth. Impressive stuff. | ||
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Koshi
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On October 12 2013 23:24 raynpelikoneet wrote: They both did claim scum with Pandain at the start of the game. :D rofl yeah. I forgot that. ROFL | ||
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phagga
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On October 12 2013 22:52 WaveofShadow wrote: What is it in regards to? I'm very interested to hear any critiques to my play in order to improve myself. I noted around D2 how you were mis-using the confidence you have. You came into the game with a pretty big ego, which is not a problem when used correctly. However, I got the feeling that you tried to hard to push your reads on others, instead of trying to lead town. However, townies were not agreeing with your reads and felt you tried to push some scum agenda. There was once talk in the podcasts about a game Promethelax played on Mafiascum, where one guy was calling him out on being a narcissist and making a huge post about how Prom's ego is overblown. At the same time the same guy also acknowledged that Prom was playing very townie. The reason this worked was because Prom used his ego to lead the town, to constantly push people to give their reads, to ask again and again what they mean and to threat that he would lynch them if they would not do what he expected from them. So basically what I want to say is: it's ok if you come into the game with a huge ego, but you need to use it right. You need to push people to do what you need them to do so you (and other townies) can get a good read on their alignement (VE did this after Koshi confirmed him). But you came into the game trying to push your reads/opinion onto other townies, and they wont let that happen. And I think that's why you had a rather bad start into this game. | ||
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phagga
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raynpelikoneet
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Oats: "you so bad" Austin: "let's talk about something else" -> then on D3 makes the exact same case. :D | ||
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raynpelikoneet
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On October 12 2013 23:48 phagga wrote: Also, I think some towns are hard to lead. While most townies are looking for a leader (which makes them susceptible to scum manipulations), there are some who want to do just their own thing. Vayne is a good example of the latter, and I think you wasted too much time trying to get him to do more (after all, you know how he plays) while also being unnecessary aggressive towards him. It was ok that you started ignoring him for a while, but you should have done that much earlier and concentrate on other players. This is what most people go wrong with Vayne. That just doesn't work. He does stuff and interacts with you if you do it right. But never ever be aggressive or threaten him. He is usually quite spot on with his reads but how to interact with him is the question here, and being aggressive is not the answer. | ||
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phagga
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WHY CAN'T I MAKE A SENSE OF THIS ANYMORE! I had it all in my head this week on what I wanted to say about your early game and did not write it down, and now I can't get it together anymore  | ||
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raynpelikoneet
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On October 12 2013 23:51 phagga wrote: Oh yeah, right, being unnecessarily aggressive was also a thing. WHY CAN'T I MAKE A SENSE OF THIS ANYMORE! I had it all in my head this week on what I wanted to say about your early game and did not write it down, and now I can't get it together anymore My early game was trying to read Palmar and when i realized he was probably scum trying to get him lynched but i am so bad at convincing people. | ||
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Koshi
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It's a bit of a random set-up tbh. Everything can happen. You can easily lose as both town and scumteam after playing an insanely good game because the random 3rd team factor. Town played a good game. It was an enjoyable experience to be town and you can see that there wasn't a single scum with a big filter. They had a hard time posting, and from reading the scum QTs they seemed a bit depressed, don't understand why, they should just kill the cops if they don't like them. I didn't save myself once this game. 4 times PS. Mini towns are always way more impressive than big game towns. Persona was awesome. Golden Sun was really close. Thug was perfect. For the town! | ||
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