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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25553 Posts
September 27 2013 17:48 GMT
#691
On September 28 2013 02:44 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2013 02:42 Blazinghand wrote:
You guys wanna see "real"? This rando lynch just got seriously real. Everyone who took stances about it now has to re-evaluate (or pretend to re-evaluate) that shit, cause the RNG just produced a person for us: Koshi. Yeah. What now?

I gave up on RNG. But anyone who's serious about it now, you better freaking vote Koshi, or shut up about it.

I dont believe it was random


you think I was paying attention to every post that was happening on TL and somehow managed to time my post so it would be a multiple of 19 + 1 exactly so it would land on Koshi?
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25553 Posts
September 27 2013 17:53 GMT
#696
On September 28 2013 02:50 Koshi wrote:
Yeah that's not going to be the case Oats...
But is it true? How do you see the number?


right click the # in the upper right of the post, and click "copy link location". The way TL works, these links go to an absolute post #, which then redirects to a thread number with a relative post number within that thread.

I used the absolute TL post number, which goes up too fast to be tracked by someone like me.

It's RNGed.

If you favor an RNG lynch, you favor a koshi lynch. done.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25553 Posts
September 27 2013 17:57 GMT
#701
On September 28 2013 02:56 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2013 02:54 ShiaoPi wrote:
how about I favor a koshi/yamato lynch but do not favor a rng lynch?
still voting koshi though

##vote: koshi

Why is Koshi scum, Shiao

And grack, do some reading. I said I support RNG lynch, and therefore despite me having a townread on Koshi, if people were willing to do so I would vote Koshi simply because RNG said so.


I guess you don't really support an RNG lynch if you're not voting Koshi right
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25553 Posts
September 27 2013 18:02 GMT
#711
On September 28 2013 03:01 FirmTofu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2013 15:42 Blazinghand wrote:
FT your objection that RNG can't truly be random is missing the real point of RNG

Explain this to me BH. If RNG isn't practically applicable in this game, what use is it to discuss it? You want to spend time discussing what we would do if we were able to truly randomly decide a lynch? What purpose does that serve?


all of my "wat"
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25553 Posts
September 27 2013 18:05 GMT
#715
Man I'm just slapping down some law here. Either people support RNG and vote Koshi and tell others to hop on board, touting the merits of RNG (since if you support RNG you should be able to put together arguments that at least attempt to convince others that it's good) or we stop pretending that RNG is a viable solution. RNG is no longer abstract. It's real. RNG is Koshi.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25553 Posts
September 27 2013 18:06 GMT
#721
On September 28 2013 03:04 Koshi wrote:
So is this shitty thing really random?

http://www.cs.princeton.edu/~dsri/modular-inversion-answer.php?n=19854962&p=19

Why no answer here? And I have been giving in numbers and it doesn't seem all equal. But I guess it is?


you don't know what mod is do you

mod is like "do the division,then what's the remainder?

so if it were post #23, 23 mod 19 = 4, we lynch SnB. If it were post #40, 40 mod 19 = 2, we lynch VE. Get it?
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25553 Posts
September 27 2013 18:07 GMT
#723
On September 28 2013 03:06 Koshi wrote:
Well I agree I am total rng.

But really. Do I have to make a list and tell you that this shitty thing isn't random.


Um, taking the randomly generated post number mod 19 is completely random.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25553 Posts
September 27 2013 18:09 GMT
#728
On September 28 2013 03:05 FirmTofu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2013 15:45 Blazinghand wrote:
Like, the reason the vote on shiaopi is a shit vote is because of how you're framing it. "ShiaoPi is playing below full potential" when the dude was only in thread for an hour and dropped some one-liners is bad reasoning. Like, instead say "ShiaoPi is lurking" because the reason you're voting for him doesn't have shit to do with his potential, or one-liners, or whatever. You're voting him because he was only in-thread for an hour, and barely posted. You're voting him for lurking.

If you're gonna policy a guy for lurking, man up and admit it. Don't try to look like you have some serious analysis going on, FT-- you don't.

Of course it is a shit vote. I wanted ShiaoPi to contribute. It has served its purpose from what I can tell of ShiaoPi's filter. It provided the impetus for a contributing ShiaoPi. That, in itself, is reason enough to justify my actions.

I knew my "reasoning" was weak at best. Consider my motivations of my action; consider the result I am trying to get.


the result? Dude, Shiaopi was in thread for like literally an hour. I bet you could have just waited 12 more hours and he'd still have posted more, just because more time has elapsed. what, were you waiting for a post like (this) or (this) to show that he's not posting short posts? Come on, man.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25553 Posts
September 27 2013 18:09 GMT
#729
On September 28 2013 03:07 FirmTofu wrote:
Can someone explain to me how we can randomly choose a lynch target? Please, enlighten me.


read the thread
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25553 Posts
September 27 2013 18:13 GMT
#736
On September 28 2013 03:12 Koshi wrote:
Ok let me try this rng thing with THIS post.


19855202 mod 19 is 12.

that being said, no rerolls! sorry.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25553 Posts
September 27 2013 18:17 GMT
#742
On September 28 2013 03:16 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2013 03:13 Blazinghand wrote:
On September 28 2013 03:12 Koshi wrote:
Ok let me try this rng thing with THIS post.


19855202 mod 19 is 12.

that being said, no rerolls! sorry.

Mine says 8.

Anyway rng lynch is now proven to be antitown. So plz stfu about it = thx!


no, yours doesn't say eight. you're really really bad at math. https://encrypted.google.com/search?hl=en&q=19855202 mod 19
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25553 Posts
September 27 2013 18:18 GMT
#745
And if you think I'm trying to push an RNG lynch you really don't understand what I've been saying about it these past pages at all. The point is, people who like an RNG lynch might just be trying not to contribute or whatever. So we ACTUALLY RNG a person, and now it's not "RNG lynch", it's "RNG Koshi lynch" and people have to actually take stances.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25553 Posts
September 27 2013 18:20 GMT
#748
On September 28 2013 03:17 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2013 03:13 VayneAuthority wrote:
On September 28 2013 03:11 WaveofShadow wrote:
Oh I see Vayne I guess you missed this post.
On September 28 2013 01:18 WaveofShadow wrote:
Yeah Vayne cares about his scumgame way more than his towngame.
I feel really good about VA lynch today.
At worst, policy 'cuz I don't like his play in most games, and at best, scum.
Win-win.

GOGO VOTE VA



How is that anything except a policy lynch? Doesn't make me scum in the slightest.

What about my post just before that one? I explained it a little better.
I don't normally like voting people simply based on meta Vayne, but in your case I'll make an exception.

BH enough with the RNG, if you've dropped support for it can you help out find scum somehow? Or is your goal to shit up the thread? 'Cause I know what kind of BH likes to do that.


If you're trying to make me stop talking by threatening me, you can only expect me to talk more. I DO NOT BOW TO THE DEMaNDS OF TERRORISTS NATIONS

The point of the RNG discussion is: I fairly RNGed Koshi. from now on, anyone who claims to really support RNG needs to start convincing people to vote Koshi, or they need to stop supporting RNG and scumhunt (ie, vote FT). that's it.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25553 Posts
September 27 2013 18:20 GMT
#750
On September 28 2013 03:19 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2013 03:17 Blazinghand wrote:
On September 28 2013 03:16 Koshi wrote:
On September 28 2013 03:13 Blazinghand wrote:
On September 28 2013 03:12 Koshi wrote:
Ok let me try this rng thing with THIS post.


19855202 mod 19 is 12.

that being said, no rerolls! sorry.

Mine says 8.

Anyway rng lynch is now proven to be antitown. So plz stfu about it = thx!


no, yours doesn't say eight. you're really really bad at math. https://encrypted.google.com/search?hl=en&q=19855202 mod 19

http://www.cs.princeton.edu/~dsri/modular-inversion-answer.php?n=19855202&p=19
Mine says eight I tell you. And it is from Princeton.
Also. I am pretty good at math.


clearly not, since you're using a modular inversion instead of modulo...
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25553 Posts
September 27 2013 18:23 GMT
#755
In any case, the point I'm trying to make here (if people would just accept that Koshi was RNGed) is that we're done talking about some "abstract RNG lynch". We're talking about lynching Koshi. People want to use RNG to opt out of the town discourse, but that is no longer possible because we've actually RNGed someone, you see?
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25553 Posts
September 27 2013 18:24 GMT
#757
On September 28 2013 03:24 Koshi wrote:
The good thing is that after this game people won't RNG anymore when I am in the game cuz I got proof. And I am in all the games.


>implying people ever actually RNG lynch
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25553 Posts
September 27 2013 18:25 GMT
#760
On September 28 2013 03:25 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2013 03:24 Blazinghand wrote:
On September 28 2013 03:24 Koshi wrote:
The good thing is that after this game people won't RNG anymore when I am in the game cuz I got proof. And I am in all the games.


>implying people ever actually RNG lynch

You are currently.


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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25553 Posts
September 27 2013 18:28 GMT
#763
Ok there seems to be some confusion here so I'm going to spell it out plain an dclear

I am not in favor of the RNG lynch on koshi. I think we should lynch FT.

I did, however, roll the dice for the RNG in a fair and clear way. The post number Mod 19 method is foolproof and random. Koshi was randomly selected.

I did this so that people would have to take stances wrt RNG. Now it's not "an RNG lynch" we're talking about, it's "the koshi rng lynch" so people actually gotta man up and take stances. This generates information. People have to have reasons. As someone who has a mild suspicion scum might try to hide behind the _concept_ of an RNG lynch, by making it real I know i can flush it out.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25553 Posts
September 27 2013 18:29 GMT
#764
On September 28 2013 03:26 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2013 03:23 Blazinghand wrote:
In any case, the point I'm trying to make here (if people would just accept that Koshi was RNGed) is that we're done talking about some "abstract RNG lynch". We're talking about lynching Koshi. People want to use RNG to opt out of the town discourse, but that is no longer possible because we've actually RNGed someone, you see?

Again, as one of the primary proponents of RNG today, when did I ever attempt to opt out of town discourse?
Did anyone actually do this? If so, where?


As the other primary proponent, I never attempted to opt out either. but the fact that the concept exists WITHOUT HAVING RNGED SOMEONE is bad. In fact, multiple people (not sure if you) said "yeah, I like RNG lynch but looks like we can't RNG anyone so I guess my support for it is meaningless"

WELL YOU GUYS JUST GOT PUNKED.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25553 Posts
September 27 2013 18:30 GMT
#765
jeez, suggest an RNG lynch, and nobody cares, actually roll the dice for one and everyone loses his head
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