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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
October 08 2013 19:21 GMT
#5361
On October 09 2013 04:19 austinmcc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 09 2013 04:16 VayneAuthority wrote:
why do you preach about being wrong on reads and then say im your top scumread?

die already so I can stop reading this shitty trash
Because I'm town and I know townies make mistakes. Everyone here who is town has made them, and been wrong about reads this game.

So unless you're going to tell me that all townies are always correct in all reads, then it has to be possible that I've misread you. Enough people have suspicion on pandain that he's not the most shining townie ever. Maybe he ain't town at all. I find it very very unlikely, but it's there.


ok then you misread me end of story. You don't even have a read on me, just trying to hang onto that oats thing which was me reading the OP wrong. if that's the best you got as a town member then I really hope we never have to play town together again after this and nuclear. you are always fucking play for scum!
I come in for the scraps
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
October 08 2013 19:21 GMT
#5362
Again, my townread on Pandain stems mostly mostly mostly from his D2. Really trying to push people off FT to no effect. And even when he HAS no effect, he's continuing to try and force it to happen. He's expending energy, posts, time, effort, into something that anyone outside the situation can see is having no impact on the thread. Scum almost never devote time/posts/energy into doing something that does nothing. If they want to do nothing, they do nothing. They don't post a crapton just to have no effect.

This is entirely incorrect meta-read on Pandain.
This is entirely incorrect meta-read on me aswell if i am scum.
This is incorrect for certain people, especially for Pandain.
table for two on a tv tray
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
October 08 2013 19:22 GMT
#5363
the problem with players like VE and austin if they are town is they think effort = town and that's the end of it. I put wayyyy more effort in as scum then town because you have to. sigh that thinking.
I come in for the scraps
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
October 08 2013 19:22 GMT
#5364
In fact, scum WANT to devote time on something that does nothing in case their lives are not in line.
table for two on a tv tray
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
October 08 2013 19:22 GMT
#5365
On October 09 2013 04:21 VayneAuthority wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 09 2013 04:19 austinmcc wrote:
On October 09 2013 04:16 VayneAuthority wrote:
why do you preach about being wrong on reads and then say im your top scumread?

die already so I can stop reading this shitty trash
Because I'm town and I know townies make mistakes. Everyone here who is town has made them, and been wrong about reads this game.

So unless you're going to tell me that all townies are always correct in all reads, then it has to be possible that I've misread you. Enough people have suspicion on pandain that he's not the most shining townie ever. Maybe he ain't town at all. I find it very very unlikely, but it's there.


ok then you misread me end of story. You don't even have a read on me, just trying to hang onto that oats thing which was me reading the OP wrong. if that's the best you got as a town member then I really hope we never have to play town together again after this and nuclear. you are always fucking play for scum!
That wasn't you reading the OP wrong.

You said oats was probably bulletproofed last night as scum. That's not an OP thing, that's a wrong view of gamestate.

You said you were the mislynch of choice yesterday. That's not an OP thing, that's a wrong view of the gamestate both N3 AND D4, because you were third in votes.

You said oats was a bad shot. Nothing to do with the OP.

Your misreading of the bullet refund WAS the OP. But your reaction to Oats being confirmed has nothing to do with the OP.
Fe fi fo fum.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
October 08 2013 19:23 GMT
#5366
So the Pandain read makes zero sense as his team's lives were most probably not on line..
table for two on a tv tray
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
October 08 2013 19:24 GMT
#5367
On October 09 2013 04:22 austinmcc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 09 2013 04:21 VayneAuthority wrote:
On October 09 2013 04:19 austinmcc wrote:
On October 09 2013 04:16 VayneAuthority wrote:
why do you preach about being wrong on reads and then say im your top scumread?

die already so I can stop reading this shitty trash
Because I'm town and I know townies make mistakes. Everyone here who is town has made them, and been wrong about reads this game.

So unless you're going to tell me that all townies are always correct in all reads, then it has to be possible that I've misread you. Enough people have suspicion on pandain that he's not the most shining townie ever. Maybe he ain't town at all. I find it very very unlikely, but it's there.


ok then you misread me end of story. You don't even have a read on me, just trying to hang onto that oats thing which was me reading the OP wrong. if that's the best you got as a town member then I really hope we never have to play town together again after this and nuclear. you are always fucking play for scum!
That wasn't you reading the OP wrong.

You said oats was probably bulletproofed last night as scum. That's not an OP thing, that's a wrong view of gamestate.

You said you were the mislynch of choice yesterday. That's not an OP thing, that's a wrong view of the gamestate both N3 AND D4, because you were third in votes.

You said oats was a bad shot. Nothing to do with the OP.

Your misreading of the bullet refund WAS the OP. But your reaction to Oats being confirmed has nothing to do with the OP.


so your whole case rests on the fact that I am "misreading" the game state when i am much more likely to do that as town then scum. Case closed you're garbage thanks for proving me town.
I come in for the scraps
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
October 08 2013 19:24 GMT
#5368
On October 09 2013 04:22 raynpelikoneet wrote:
In fact, scum WANT to devote time on something that does nothing in case their lives are not in line.
Wanting to devote time to something that does nothing is fine, but I view that as falling into things like Ace or palmar arguing with you.

Pandain trying to shift the lynch involves a lot of something, a lot of FT defending and a lot of VA attacking, but for no...no payoff. It's too much work to get nothing out of, and he continues long after it's dead.

If I'm wrong on Pandain, okeedoke. But a heck of a lot of people were wrong on CR, and never bothered to go read his games.
Fe fi fo fum.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
October 08 2013 19:25 GMT
#5369
On October 09 2013 04:22 VayneAuthority wrote:
the problem with players like VE and austin if they are town is they think effort = town and that's the end of it. I put wayyyy more effort in as scum then town because you have to. sigh that thinking.

I know, this is retarded. If i do not have 20 pages of filter D1 i get called scum for it. Funny isn't it. :D
table for two on a tv tray
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
October 08 2013 19:25 GMT
#5370
On October 09 2013 04:24 VayneAuthority wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 09 2013 04:22 austinmcc wrote:
On October 09 2013 04:21 VayneAuthority wrote:
On October 09 2013 04:19 austinmcc wrote:
On October 09 2013 04:16 VayneAuthority wrote:
why do you preach about being wrong on reads and then say im your top scumread?

die already so I can stop reading this shitty trash
Because I'm town and I know townies make mistakes. Everyone here who is town has made them, and been wrong about reads this game.

So unless you're going to tell me that all townies are always correct in all reads, then it has to be possible that I've misread you. Enough people have suspicion on pandain that he's not the most shining townie ever. Maybe he ain't town at all. I find it very very unlikely, but it's there.


ok then you misread me end of story. You don't even have a read on me, just trying to hang onto that oats thing which was me reading the OP wrong. if that's the best you got as a town member then I really hope we never have to play town together again after this and nuclear. you are always fucking play for scum!
That wasn't you reading the OP wrong.

You said oats was probably bulletproofed last night as scum. That's not an OP thing, that's a wrong view of gamestate.

You said you were the mislynch of choice yesterday. That's not an OP thing, that's a wrong view of the gamestate both N3 AND D4, because you were third in votes.

You said oats was a bad shot. Nothing to do with the OP.

Your misreading of the bullet refund WAS the OP. But your reaction to Oats being confirmed has nothing to do with the OP.


so your whole case rests on the fact that I am "misreading" the game state when i am much more likely to do that as town then scum. Case closed you're garbage thanks for proving me town.
Nope. Not at all. You're ANGRY that koshi would confirm oats. Which is a good thing for town. You're upset and trying to wiggle out of something that was positive for town, with reasoning that doesn't cut it.
Fe fi fo fum.
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
October 08 2013 19:26 GMT
#5371
On October 09 2013 04:25 austinmcc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 09 2013 04:24 VayneAuthority wrote:
On October 09 2013 04:22 austinmcc wrote:
On October 09 2013 04:21 VayneAuthority wrote:
On October 09 2013 04:19 austinmcc wrote:
On October 09 2013 04:16 VayneAuthority wrote:
why do you preach about being wrong on reads and then say im your top scumread?

die already so I can stop reading this shitty trash
Because I'm town and I know townies make mistakes. Everyone here who is town has made them, and been wrong about reads this game.

So unless you're going to tell me that all townies are always correct in all reads, then it has to be possible that I've misread you. Enough people have suspicion on pandain that he's not the most shining townie ever. Maybe he ain't town at all. I find it very very unlikely, but it's there.


ok then you misread me end of story. You don't even have a read on me, just trying to hang onto that oats thing which was me reading the OP wrong. if that's the best you got as a town member then I really hope we never have to play town together again after this and nuclear. you are always fucking play for scum!
That wasn't you reading the OP wrong.

You said oats was probably bulletproofed last night as scum. That's not an OP thing, that's a wrong view of gamestate.

You said you were the mislynch of choice yesterday. That's not an OP thing, that's a wrong view of the gamestate both N3 AND D4, because you were third in votes.

You said oats was a bad shot. Nothing to do with the OP.

Your misreading of the bullet refund WAS the OP. But your reaction to Oats being confirmed has nothing to do with the OP.


so your whole case rests on the fact that I am "misreading" the game state when i am much more likely to do that as town then scum. Case closed you're garbage thanks for proving me town.
Nope. Not at all. You're ANGRY that koshi would confirm oats. Which is a good thing for town. You're upset and trying to wiggle out of something that was positive for town, with reasoning that doesn't cut it.


and I already explained that, I hate being wrong because I was 100% sure oats was scum due to how he was playing, but you are trying to play it off as some big thing. and that is why you are scum.
I come in for the scraps
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
October 08 2013 19:27 GMT
#5372
On October 09 2013 04:26 VayneAuthority wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 09 2013 04:25 austinmcc wrote:
On October 09 2013 04:24 VayneAuthority wrote:
On October 09 2013 04:22 austinmcc wrote:
On October 09 2013 04:21 VayneAuthority wrote:
On October 09 2013 04:19 austinmcc wrote:
On October 09 2013 04:16 VayneAuthority wrote:
why do you preach about being wrong on reads and then say im your top scumread?

die already so I can stop reading this shitty trash
Because I'm town and I know townies make mistakes. Everyone here who is town has made them, and been wrong about reads this game.

So unless you're going to tell me that all townies are always correct in all reads, then it has to be possible that I've misread you. Enough people have suspicion on pandain that he's not the most shining townie ever. Maybe he ain't town at all. I find it very very unlikely, but it's there.


ok then you misread me end of story. You don't even have a read on me, just trying to hang onto that oats thing which was me reading the OP wrong. if that's the best you got as a town member then I really hope we never have to play town together again after this and nuclear. you are always fucking play for scum!
That wasn't you reading the OP wrong.

You said oats was probably bulletproofed last night as scum. That's not an OP thing, that's a wrong view of gamestate.

You said you were the mislynch of choice yesterday. That's not an OP thing, that's a wrong view of the gamestate both N3 AND D4, because you were third in votes.

You said oats was a bad shot. Nothing to do with the OP.

Your misreading of the bullet refund WAS the OP. But your reaction to Oats being confirmed has nothing to do with the OP.


so your whole case rests on the fact that I am "misreading" the game state when i am much more likely to do that as town then scum. Case closed you're garbage thanks for proving me town.
Nope. Not at all. You're ANGRY that koshi would confirm oats. Which is a good thing for town. You're upset and trying to wiggle out of something that was positive for town, with reasoning that doesn't cut it.


and I already explained that, I hate being wrong because I was 100% sure oats was scum due to how he was playing, but you are trying to play it off as some big thing. and that is why you are scum.
There's a townie way to hate being wrong. There's a scummy way to hate being wrong.

Your first reaction was the scummy one. Koshi you took a bad shot, oats was a great bulletproof target, etc. etc. Only after a while do you have the townie reaction "I can't believe oats is doing this as town."
Fe fi fo fum.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
October 08 2013 19:27 GMT
#5373
On October 09 2013 04:24 austinmcc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 09 2013 04:22 raynpelikoneet wrote:
In fact, scum WANT to devote time on something that does nothing in case their lives are not in line.
Wanting to devote time to something that does nothing is fine, but I view that as falling into things like Ace or palmar arguing with you.

Pandain trying to shift the lynch involves a lot of something, a lot of FT defending and a lot of VA attacking, but for no...no payoff. It's too much work to get nothing out of, and he continues long after it's dead.

If I'm wrong on Pandain, okeedoke. But a heck of a lot of people were wrong on CR, and never bothered to go read his games.

Read Noire and GS and you will see how wrong you are in Pandain's meta. When Pandain is town and wants something to happen he makes it happen, like in GS. I am probably the best person to say this because our playstyle is quite similar. He does what i did no longer than ~5 games ago. If i concluded someone is scum i pushed the lynch through. That's it, i didn't give a fuck who the other players in the game were or what they did think. That's what Pandain does as town. Look at Noire, Pandain "pushes things", how many things go through. Absolutely zero.
table for two on a tv tray
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
October 08 2013 19:28 GMT
#5374
On October 09 2013 04:27 austinmcc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 09 2013 04:26 VayneAuthority wrote:
On October 09 2013 04:25 austinmcc wrote:
On October 09 2013 04:24 VayneAuthority wrote:
On October 09 2013 04:22 austinmcc wrote:
On October 09 2013 04:21 VayneAuthority wrote:
On October 09 2013 04:19 austinmcc wrote:
On October 09 2013 04:16 VayneAuthority wrote:
why do you preach about being wrong on reads and then say im your top scumread?

die already so I can stop reading this shitty trash
Because I'm town and I know townies make mistakes. Everyone here who is town has made them, and been wrong about reads this game.

So unless you're going to tell me that all townies are always correct in all reads, then it has to be possible that I've misread you. Enough people have suspicion on pandain that he's not the most shining townie ever. Maybe he ain't town at all. I find it very very unlikely, but it's there.


ok then you misread me end of story. You don't even have a read on me, just trying to hang onto that oats thing which was me reading the OP wrong. if that's the best you got as a town member then I really hope we never have to play town together again after this and nuclear. you are always fucking play for scum!
That wasn't you reading the OP wrong.

You said oats was probably bulletproofed last night as scum. That's not an OP thing, that's a wrong view of gamestate.

You said you were the mislynch of choice yesterday. That's not an OP thing, that's a wrong view of the gamestate both N3 AND D4, because you were third in votes.

You said oats was a bad shot. Nothing to do with the OP.

Your misreading of the bullet refund WAS the OP. But your reaction to Oats being confirmed has nothing to do with the OP.


so your whole case rests on the fact that I am "misreading" the game state when i am much more likely to do that as town then scum. Case closed you're garbage thanks for proving me town.
Nope. Not at all. You're ANGRY that koshi would confirm oats. Which is a good thing for town. You're upset and trying to wiggle out of something that was positive for town, with reasoning that doesn't cut it.


and I already explained that, I hate being wrong because I was 100% sure oats was scum due to how he was playing, but you are trying to play it off as some big thing. and that is why you are scum.
There's a townie way to hate being wrong. There's a scummy way to hate being wrong.

Your first reaction was the scummy one. Koshi you took a bad shot, oats was a great bulletproof target, etc. etc. Only after a while do you have the townie reaction "I can't believe oats is doing this as town."



and for some reason you don't understand that that is completely subjective. god you are an idiot. really hope you get flipped tonight
I come in for the scraps
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
October 08 2013 19:29 GMT
#5375
On October 09 2013 04:27 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 09 2013 04:24 austinmcc wrote:
On October 09 2013 04:22 raynpelikoneet wrote:
In fact, scum WANT to devote time on something that does nothing in case their lives are not in line.
Wanting to devote time to something that does nothing is fine, but I view that as falling into things like Ace or palmar arguing with you.

Pandain trying to shift the lynch involves a lot of something, a lot of FT defending and a lot of VA attacking, but for no...no payoff. It's too much work to get nothing out of, and he continues long after it's dead.

If I'm wrong on Pandain, okeedoke. But a heck of a lot of people were wrong on CR, and never bothered to go read his games.

Read Noire and GS and you will see how wrong you are in Pandain's meta. When Pandain is town and wants something to happen he makes it happen, like in GS. I am probably the best person to say this because our playstyle is quite similar. He does what i did no longer than ~5 games ago. If i concluded someone is scum i pushed the lynch through. That's it, i didn't give a fuck who the other players in the game were or what they did think. That's what Pandain does as town. Look at Noire, Pandain "pushes things", how many things go through. Absolutely zero.
And what happens when Pandain pushes things but nobody will listen, yet he keeps pushing and pushing?

His alignment is determined on...the outcome? Whether his lynch gets pushed through? If that's the case, you're basing his alignment off other people's decisions, their lynch choices.
Fe fi fo fum.
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
October 08 2013 19:31 GMT
#5376
like I don't see any reason except for austin/pandain scum team for him to defend his play like this in a completely wrong way. it is completely inexcusably bad if you are town.
I come in for the scraps
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
October 08 2013 19:32 GMT
#5377
Chairman Ray, if you're actually the last MCB, the other scum team won't shoot at you. We'd super heart heart heart you shooting at cheesecake. No need to use KP on a vest, and we'll make you an honorary townie or something.
Fe fi fo fum.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
October 08 2013 19:33 GMT
#5378
Austin you are very eager to look into other people's past games. Why do you refuse to look into Pandain's last games and refuse to see the obvious?
table for two on a tv tray
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
October 08 2013 19:33 GMT
#5379
On October 09 2013 04:31 VayneAuthority wrote:
like I don't see any reason except for austin/pandain scum team for him to defend his play like this in a completely wrong way. it is completely inexcusably bad if you are town.


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Fe fi fo fum.
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
October 08 2013 19:35 GMT
#5380
looks like a scumclaim to me, vivax posted GIFs when I trapped his shitty logic in roulette too. gG confession
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