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WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
October 06 2013 19:09 GMT
#4241
Oh and once all this is done, I'm done trying to protect CR on newbie status.
CR is my next lynch after this. I have asked him to contribute numerous times and he has flat-out avoided shit altogether. Worse than Austin avoiding my read of him which at least he eventually addressed to some degree.

If he cared about this game he'd be here and posting---the spotlight is off him now and he's gone.
Pandain too.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 06 2013 19:11 GMT
#4242
Like, i have no idea why Koshi would fakeclaim. Zero.Nada.
Lynches were FT & Palmar, maybe Vayne (but not for real).

Confirming me opened a venue to lynching Palmar as i can be trusted. So Koshi is not scum with him. Why would one of the three man scum team claim scum when Koshi did, as Vayne (from the lynch candidates) COULD be scum with him, noone else. And Vayne was the worst lynch D3.
table for two on a tv tray
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
October 06 2013 19:12 GMT
#4243
Okay hold on hold on.

Would not a scum s0L have to have sacrificed KP to payphone Cheese? That doesn't make any sense at all does it? Think about it - that means that they're trading one of their members (if they're wrong about Cheese being scum) while at the same time losing out on KP, in exchange for what?
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
October 06 2013 19:12 GMT
#4244
On October 07 2013 04:09 s0Lstice wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2013 04:04 WaveofShadow wrote:
On October 07 2013 04:01 austinmcc wrote:
On October 07 2013 03:58 WaveofShadow wrote:
Simple scenario is daaaa best
The only thing I have trouble with now + Show Spoiler +
(aside from why did a scum solstice bother doing this in the first place----probably impatience imo because I imagine it's ridiculously nerve-wracking when your survival is entirely out of your own hands---oh wait I know about that survivor lololol)
is why was Koshi not shot? Is the explanation 'because he only soft-claimed and maybe scum didn't believe him and he didn't get shot the night after that 'cause he WIFOMed them into thinking he'd be busdriving?'
Except that he got called out HARD for soft-claiming by multiple people before N2.

I can understand scum maybe not believing him, but then it's "do we think scum want grack / hiro dead more than a townie who might be cop?"

Like, even if they don't believe, if he's town he's town. At worst, they kill a townie, and they might get a cop if they believe. In townKoshi world, they took shots on grack and hiro rather than maybecop koshi.

I already explained this.
Makes more sense to shoot people who nobody was likely to protect or might have been 'other team scum.'
Neither of them looked particularly good.

The fact remains that the 'right' play here is to lynch solstice, regardless of the shitfest between them simply based on circumstance. I will admit solstice's arguments have been somewhat compelling in certain ways but given the way towns have been playing I really want to make the 'right' call here. If we are wrong and solstice was the cop then in my opinion it is more his fault than ours for trying to 'make plays' without having any idea what he was doing.

And yeah, I'm well aware that's kind of a shitty attitude and absolving myself of responsibility if I AM wrong and Solstice just screwed up, but I know what the right call is in this scenario and I'm taking it.


WoS don't be doing this. This is driven in part by the 'oh fuck' moment if you lynch Koshi and it was me lying after all. You have to ignore the stakes, because it clouds judgement.

You keep saying that Koshi's side is the simpler one. That is not as clear as you are saying it is. Think back again on how ludicrous what is happening right now is if I am scum. There is no simple explanation here, both sides require some kind of craziness. Like I told you earlier, I think you know the right answer. This game makes a lot more sense with Koshi scum, Oats is back on the table etc. You MUST Be feeling the unease that something was not quite right and THIS IS THE ANSWER.

This is completely not true. The less crazy explanation is you felt like going YOLO or trying to WIFOM us here with a 'well why would scum ever do this?' More crazy is a scum Koshi fakeclaiming cop that early and expecting not to get counterclaimed.

Yes I am feeling the unease regarding Oats and the Koshi/Rayn confirmation and whatnot but I have also been wrong a lot this game. I have no choice but to defer to what I believe the right plays are, and the people who have been doing better than me this game.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
October 06 2013 19:12 GMT
#4245
On October 07 2013 04:12 VisceraEyes wrote:
Okay hold on hold on.

Would not a scum s0L have to have sacrificed KP to payphone Cheese? That doesn't make any sense at all does it? Think about it - that means that they're trading one of their members (if they're wrong about Cheese being scum) while at the same time losing out on KP, in exchange for what?

If payphone is 0.5 then no. He could have had 1.5 KP.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 06 2013 19:13 GMT
#4246
On October 07 2013 04:08 WaveofShadow wrote:
Rayn can you explain to me why you didn't bother playing the game until your butt buddy Koshi came under fire?

I have tried to lynch Palmar every single day in this game. If you guys do not listen to me, then i can't do anything about it.
table for two on a tv tray
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
October 06 2013 19:13 GMT
#4247
On October 07 2013 04:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2013 04:08 WaveofShadow wrote:
Rayn can you explain to me why you didn't bother playing the game until your butt buddy Koshi came under fire?

I have tried to lynch Palmar every single day in this game. If you guys do not listen to me, then i can't do anything about it.

After the Palmar lynch where were you?
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
October 06 2013 19:15 GMT
#4248
On October 07 2013 04:12 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2013 04:12 VisceraEyes wrote:
Okay hold on hold on.

Would not a scum s0L have to have sacrificed KP to payphone Cheese? That doesn't make any sense at all does it? Think about it - that means that they're trading one of their members (if they're wrong about Cheese being scum) while at the same time losing out on KP, in exchange for what?

If payphone is 0.5 then no. He could have had 1.5 KP.

How? Both teams have 1KP, which doesn't round up. If he sac'd KP then he couldn't have shot.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 06 2013 19:16 GMT
#4249
On October 07 2013 04:13 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2013 04:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On October 07 2013 04:08 WaveofShadow wrote:
Rayn can you explain to me why you didn't bother playing the game until your butt buddy Koshi came under fire?

I have tried to lynch Palmar every single day in this game. If you guys do not listen to me, then i can't do anything about it.

After the Palmar lynch where were you?

What do you mean? Why should i be here on night phase? I put on vest and that's it. I live unless double stacked. I also told i think Pandain is scum and should be lynched next. Obviously that changed after the sol claim.
table for two on a tv tray
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
October 06 2013 19:16 GMT
#4250
On October 07 2013 04:15 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2013 04:12 WaveofShadow wrote:
On October 07 2013 04:12 VisceraEyes wrote:
Okay hold on hold on.

Would not a scum s0L have to have sacrificed KP to payphone Cheese? That doesn't make any sense at all does it? Think about it - that means that they're trading one of their members (if they're wrong about Cheese being scum) while at the same time losing out on KP, in exchange for what?

If payphone is 0.5 then no. He could have had 1.5 KP.

How? Both teams have 1KP, which doesn't round up. If he sac'd KP then he couldn't have shot.
The N2 shots on hiro and snb gave 1-2 scum teams a bonus .5 KP. We don't know item costs, but it's possible that pay phone is a <=.5 KP item and that was what scumteam chose.

Why a scumteam chooses the payphone over a roleblock if they're not going after koshi is......
Fe fi fo fum.
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
October 06 2013 19:16 GMT
#4251
On October 07 2013 04:15 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2013 04:12 WaveofShadow wrote:
On October 07 2013 04:12 VisceraEyes wrote:
Okay hold on hold on.

Would not a scum s0L have to have sacrificed KP to payphone Cheese? That doesn't make any sense at all does it? Think about it - that means that they're trading one of their members (if they're wrong about Cheese being scum) while at the same time losing out on KP, in exchange for what?

If payphone is 0.5 then no. He could have had 1.5 KP.

How? Both teams have 1KP, which doesn't round up. If he sac'd KP then he couldn't have shot.

If he got 0.5 KP from an earlier night where he shot Hiro. (Becuse if he's a banger it would have had to be him who did that, while the other team shot SnB)
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
October 06 2013 19:17 GMT
#4252
On October 07 2013 04:16 austinmcc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2013 04:15 VisceraEyes wrote:
On October 07 2013 04:12 WaveofShadow wrote:
On October 07 2013 04:12 VisceraEyes wrote:
Okay hold on hold on.

Would not a scum s0L have to have sacrificed KP to payphone Cheese? That doesn't make any sense at all does it? Think about it - that means that they're trading one of their members (if they're wrong about Cheese being scum) while at the same time losing out on KP, in exchange for what?

If payphone is 0.5 then no. He could have had 1.5 KP.

How? Both teams have 1KP, which doesn't round up. If he sac'd KP then he couldn't have shot.
The N2 shots on hiro and snb gave 1-2 scum teams a bonus .5 KP. We don't know item costs, but it's possible that pay phone is a <=.5 KP item and that was what scumteam chose.

Why a scumteam chooses the payphone over a roleblock if they're not going after koshi is......

Don't know scumprices.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
October 06 2013 19:17 GMT
#4253
On October 07 2013 04:16 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2013 04:13 WaveofShadow wrote:
On October 07 2013 04:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On October 07 2013 04:08 WaveofShadow wrote:
Rayn can you explain to me why you didn't bother playing the game until your butt buddy Koshi came under fire?

I have tried to lynch Palmar every single day in this game. If you guys do not listen to me, then i can't do anything about it.

After the Palmar lynch where were you?

What do you mean? Why should i be here on night phase? I put on vest and that's it. I live unless double stacked. I also told i think Pandain is scum and should be lynched next. Obviously that changed after the sol claim.

To fucking help us find scum.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
October 06 2013 19:17 GMT
#4254
On October 07 2013 04:17 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2013 04:16 austinmcc wrote:
On October 07 2013 04:15 VisceraEyes wrote:
On October 07 2013 04:12 WaveofShadow wrote:
On October 07 2013 04:12 VisceraEyes wrote:
Okay hold on hold on.

Would not a scum s0L have to have sacrificed KP to payphone Cheese? That doesn't make any sense at all does it? Think about it - that means that they're trading one of their members (if they're wrong about Cheese being scum) while at the same time losing out on KP, in exchange for what?

If payphone is 0.5 then no. He could have had 1.5 KP.

How? Both teams have 1KP, which doesn't round up. If he sac'd KP then he couldn't have shot.
The N2 shots on hiro and snb gave 1-2 scum teams a bonus .5 KP. We don't know item costs, but it's possible that pay phone is a <=.5 KP item and that was what scumteam chose.

Why a scumteam chooses the payphone over a roleblock if they're not going after koshi is......

Don't know scumprices.
Troof. BUT THAT DOESN'T MAKE THINGS BETTERRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
Fe fi fo fum.
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
October 06 2013 19:20 GMT
#4255
On October 07 2013 04:17 austinmcc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2013 04:17 WaveofShadow wrote:
On October 07 2013 04:16 austinmcc wrote:
On October 07 2013 04:15 VisceraEyes wrote:
On October 07 2013 04:12 WaveofShadow wrote:
On October 07 2013 04:12 VisceraEyes wrote:
Okay hold on hold on.

Would not a scum s0L have to have sacrificed KP to payphone Cheese? That doesn't make any sense at all does it? Think about it - that means that they're trading one of their members (if they're wrong about Cheese being scum) while at the same time losing out on KP, in exchange for what?

If payphone is 0.5 then no. He could have had 1.5 KP.

How? Both teams have 1KP, which doesn't round up. If he sac'd KP then he couldn't have shot.
The N2 shots on hiro and snb gave 1-2 scum teams a bonus .5 KP. We don't know item costs, but it's possible that pay phone is a <=.5 KP item and that was what scumteam chose.

Why a scumteam chooses the payphone over a roleblock if they're not going after koshi is......

Don't know scumprices.
Troof. BUT THAT DOESN'T MAKE THINGS BETTERRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

Was just answering VE's question with what I think is a likely scenario.
Austin.
Do you honestly think the 'right' play here is to lynch Koshi?
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
October 06 2013 19:23 GMT
#4256
On October 07 2013 04:05 s0Lstice wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2013 03:57 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Solstice you are nitpicking very much.
It's like saying someone must be mafia because they want to "kill" people instead of "lynching".

And you have not tried to figure this game out either.
On October 07 2013 03:49 s0Lstice wrote:
On October 07 2013 03:46 Pandain wrote:
You weren't contributing a lot and contributions were bad.

Like where is this Solstice on days 1-3?

Only reason you post now is because your about to die


Talk to me about how your characterization makes a clear distinction between blue and scum.

Wtf is this bullshit?


I don't even know why I waste my breath with you. I certainly have tried to figure out this game.


You're wasting your breath because in your world you're a cop
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
October 06 2013 19:26 GMT
#4257
On October 07 2013 04:08 WaveofShadow wrote:
Rayn can you explain to me why you didn't bother playing the game until your butt buddy Koshi came under fire?


I don't get your insinuation here.

If you believe Koshi is town, that means Rayn is 100% town.
s0Lstice
Profile Joined August 2009
United States1832 Posts
October 06 2013 19:26 GMT
#4258
On October 07 2013 04:23 Pandain wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2013 04:05 s0Lstice wrote:
On October 07 2013 03:57 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Solstice you are nitpicking very much.
It's like saying someone must be mafia because they want to "kill" people instead of "lynching".

And you have not tried to figure this game out either.
On October 07 2013 03:49 s0Lstice wrote:
On October 07 2013 03:46 Pandain wrote:
You weren't contributing a lot and contributions were bad.

Like where is this Solstice on days 1-3?

Only reason you post now is because your about to die


Talk to me about how your characterization makes a clear distinction between blue and scum.

Wtf is this bullshit?


I don't even know why I waste my breath with you. I certainly have tried to figure out this game.


You're wasting your breath because in your world you're a cop


Your confirmation bias is something else.

I've said Rayn is scum. Kill.

I'm starting to think you are scum too. You and Rayn have something in common with your approach to this claim.
ATOBTTR
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
October 06 2013 19:28 GMT
#4259
We'll see if you flip cop
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
October 06 2013 19:29 GMT
#4260
On October 07 2013 04:26 Pandain wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2013 04:08 WaveofShadow wrote:
Rayn can you explain to me why you didn't bother playing the game until your butt buddy Koshi came under fire?


I don't get your insinuation here.

If you believe Koshi is town, that means Rayn is 100% town.

I do.
I'm just mad at Rayn for fucking off after he got confirmed.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
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