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On October 02 2013 10:42 austinmcc wrote:Show nested quote +On October 02 2013 10:39 s0Lstice wrote:On October 02 2013 10:36 austinmcc wrote:On October 02 2013 10:31 s0Lstice wrote:
oh austin dearest.
scum s0lstice: is skating by with lean reads because he can't for some reason (despite not being a dumbass) make convincing fake reads
town s0lstice: is skating by with lean reads because he is operating on incomplete information due to time comstraints but still feels compelled to be present and accounted for at important events (i.e. his first lynch)
again, not that I'm complaining about the time thing...but there is plenty to the town side of that and as far as I can tell you haven't made a clear case as to why one is better than the other. especially considering that I have a scum game to reference and I was in fine form in it.
you want to give hiro time to do something, and he was here from day 1. I've said I am not going to be useless all game and I meant it. If I never pull through, lynch me then. EZPZ
the truth is I have never been this inactive/useless as either alignment We can only be dearest right now if you're town  I generally play active scum and I make fake reads and play and am somewhat active. I just played a scum game where I didn't post at all D2 and then just sheeped some vote right before the lynch happened. I do not buy into people always playing the same way, so having some fine form scum games(s) doesn't mean you're town this one (especially given that replacing into a game as scum is a whole different ball game than starting as scum). Hiro has posted stuff that makes me want to get him to take stances on things he hasn't talked about. It's not just "post more", it's more "post on these specific topics" You have posted a bunch about FT, but never actually SAID anything about him. Even more than VA's WHO SHOT BH? post, your FT comments are pure air. Never substantiated, constantly mentioned, and relatively important to the game given that he was up for lynch. ALSO IF YOU'VE NEVER BEEN THIS INACTIVE/USLESS AS EITHER ALIGNMENT THEN I DON'T THINK IT MATTERS WHETHER YOU WERE ACTIVE SCUM IN SOME OTHER GAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAME. IT DOESN'T MATTER AT AAAAAAAAALLLLLLLLLL. AND WHEN I'VE REPLACED IN AS SCUM I'VE BEEN INACTIVE, BUT REPLACING IN AS TOWN I USUALLY START COMING TO LIFE AFTER A BIT SO IT MAKES ME THINK EVEN MORE YOU ARE SCUM.Sorry. Find you scummy. If you're townie we can makeup after the game, but no kissing because I got hot dog stand lady breath and you don't want none of that. dude, you cited my capability as town to make good reads and good posts. thats meta. when you meta you have to provide both sides. that's why I said I haven't played like this as either alignment i.e. meta is going to be mostly useless at this point Fair (but you're still mafiaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa). Care to substantiate your FT read? Or talk about something else. Right now I'm going to be generally scummy on you because of what I've seen. And I will try to convince others you're scummy. If you're town, spend time doing townie stuff and don't argue with me solely about what's already happened in this game or others.
sorry had to take care of noir
basically, you just don't want to wait. I wish you would...Thursday is gonna be my opportunity to catch up and be useful. Won't be looking very town until then. But if I'm past the arbitrary austin clock then so be it.
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lol words can't express how much i <3 you
game on though. if im dead before thursday you are gonna owe me like 3 postgame hotdogs because im town
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random but im wondering if the scum teams have privately figured eachother out yet
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On October 03 2013 04:49 Koshi wrote:
rofl. How? I don't even know 1 member...
well, scum have the benefit of removing 2 extra people from the player pool. the perspective on the game is totally different too.
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On October 03 2013 05:07 Koshi wrote:
Pretty sure s0lstice is scum now.
##vote: s0Lstice
wat.
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On October 03 2013 05:10 Palmar wrote:
fuck it, I'm in ##vote: S0lstice
youve said like twice now 'guys i havent read the replacements yet.' and you still havent. i mean this is totally egocentric, but being that ive given so little to go off of im perturbed that you are so blase in regards to me.
are you scum?
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On October 03 2013 05:16 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On October 03 2013 05:13 s0Lstice wrote:On October 03 2013 05:10 Palmar wrote:
fuck it, I'm in ##vote: S0lstice youve said like twice now 'guys i havent read the replacements yet.' and you still havent. i mean this is totally egocentric, but being that ive given so little to go off of im perturbed that you are so blase in regards to me. are you scum? In Kosher we trust.
yea his points are really convincing.
i liked the part where he was like 's0lstice is scum.'
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On October 03 2013 05:19 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On October 03 2013 05:18 s0Lstice wrote:On October 03 2013 05:16 Palmar wrote:On October 03 2013 05:13 s0Lstice wrote:On October 03 2013 05:10 Palmar wrote:
fuck it, I'm in ##vote: S0lstice youve said like twice now 'guys i havent read the replacements yet.' and you still havent. i mean this is totally egocentric, but being that ive given so little to go off of im perturbed that you are so blase in regards to me. are you scum? In Kosher we trust. yea his points are really convincing. i liked the part where he was like 's0lstice is scum.' That's exactly the part I liked!
yea your general apathy while still being a major participant concerns me
##vote Palmar
Koshi I'll have to wait to OMGUS you later, but it might get awkward cuz i think you're town
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You really think the exchanges between rayn and palmar are faked pandain?
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On October 03 2013 08:29 Pandain wrote:
They don't have to be they could be on different teams
A question for you. If you were scum, how would you treat the other scum team?
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On October 03 2013 12:24 Pandain wrote:
You have been twisting statements, adding only when it suits you, while failing to contribute to overall discussion.
You are voting FT because of SnB. Do you have reasons right now you can you are voting him besides meta and if so tell me them now and I will dissect them. Do not take too long.
I don't agree with the bolded. You may not like his contributions, but they are still contributions. I see him popping in at times where a townie is expected to be weighing in and offering his thoughts. He never pushes lynches really, so there's that too.
Also lack of ad hom. That's another thing.
Haters say to not meta vayne...I don't listen.
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I mean just look at that .gif. A man who eats his cereal like that has to be town.
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On October 03 2013 12:54 Pandain wrote:
That's partly his meta, though.
And I'd be willing to give him benefit of doubt that he's mannered up.
However, people who focus on role set-up and what happened tend to be scum from my experience. I was found out for the exact reason of focusing on the night actions too much while trying to see reactive in Brighton Mafia
Every game I have played with Vayne..town or scum..he pubicly walks himself through night actions.
This set-up is like a wet-dream for him. So many fun possibilites.
I agree with you on Palmar though, let's kill him. Join me.
Also, what do you think of Oats?
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On October 03 2013 12:56 Pandain wrote:Show nested quote +On October 03 2013 12:53 s0Lstice wrote:
I mean just look at that .gif. A man who eats his cereal like that has to be town. That's poor reasoning for some reason I think. I think you should vote Vayne now or tell me a better option so I can dissect you.
Well you see, that there is a joke.
I'm cool with killing Palmar or Oats atm.
Palmar for ignoring some pretty important filters (replacements) which flies in the face of the notion of him being an active participant of the town who is trying to solve the game.
Oats for asking weird questions and not doing anything with them. He isn't screaming on every page to kill a tunnel target. Kill with fire. There was also a bit about him giving Rayn shit for giving Palmar a town read when he himself was operating under a Palmar=town assumption. When I actually have time to quote a bunch of posts I'll make that a lil more clear.
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lol what are you doing Pandain?
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On October 03 2013 13:06 Pandain wrote:You could try and vote me but you'd probably be scum then as you have no justification. I refuse to be shut down and believe FT is town. He always plays like this. Your reasons are weak. Besides his awful vote Palmar has been pretty town with contributions and logical posts. It's just suddenly he threw a sudden wrench and voted Shiao despite clearer suspicions on FT just to "prove Rayn wrong." Vayne is scummy for more reasons and it is more conclusive. That is the weirdest statement to remember of all time that someone always walks themselves through night actions I think you are trying to make justifications to not vote Vayne which are really weak. Let me approach it in several different ways: 1. Vayne will always end up becoming a hassle for town later as it is really hard to tell his alignment. In fact my only good read is that he's focusing too much on role actions and is revealing more information then town has. Failing this lynch, he will always be up for a lynch later which given this game scum will probably force anyway if Vayne is town. Better to get him out of the way. 2. Vayne is clearly not blue so that's a good thing. 3. Vayne has asked not to be checked despite before saying check me Show nested quote +On September 30 2013 07:41 VayneAuthority wrote:On September 30 2013 07:39 Pandain wrote:
Vayne is probably scum. Also a generally good shot. I would suggest cops to shoot him, as it's hard to differentiate his town and scum play.
He's clearly reading due to what he's saying but he's acting like he doesn't give a shit.
Town reads are Cheesecake and SnB.
If Palmar doesn't push today, he's probably scum. I welcome the cops shooting me, it confirms town members and I have no reason to use my vest so it will refund the bullet. go for it. 5. If you like OMGUS Show nested quote +On October 02 2013 01:57 VayneAuthority wrote:
I am not sold on FT or SnB but the majority of the list you just posted besides that is scum Heavily contrasts with him today which, based on meta analysis of SnB flipping scum, is associative with FT being scum. Poor reason to change.
Concerning the night action thing, If someone does something as both alignments its not alignment indicative. This is not a small point. Instead of fighting it you could actually go look and see if I'm right.
past that...your points are:
1)he is hard to read
2)is not blue
3+4) said 'don't check me! lol .gif'
5) is the only real one with merit. 1-4 are pure garbage.
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On October 03 2013 13:10 Pandain wrote:Show nested quote +On October 03 2013 13:01 s0Lstice wrote:On October 03 2013 12:56 Pandain wrote:On October 03 2013 12:53 s0Lstice wrote:
I mean just look at that .gif. A man who eats his cereal like that has to be town. That's poor reasoning for some reason I think. I think you should vote Vayne now or tell me a better option so I can dissect you. Well you see, that there is a joke. I'm cool with killing Palmar or Oats atm. Palmar for ignoring some pretty important filters (replacements) which flies in the face of the notion of him being an active participant of the town who is trying to solve the game. Oats for asking weird questions and not doing anything with them. He isn't screaming on every page to kill a tunnel target. Kill with fire. There was also a bit about him giving Rayn shit for giving Palmar a town read when he himself was operating under a Palmar=town assumption. When I actually have time to quote a bunch of posts I'll make that a lil more clear. Ignoring filters isn't proof that someone is scum. You also assume that active participants must look at every filter. I'm ignoring Oats for a bit as I don't think he's quite indicative of scum yet
Elaborate on this. I don't agree that good active townies don't want at least some opinion on every player in the game.
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Alright, but give me something on Oats. Anything you have.
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