Jesus Christ, the scumminess is strong with Vayne. I'm actually feeling better about CR with his most recent post. He had no reason to defend me after I made that post attacking him, yet he did. Feels very genuine.

I'm going to do some Vayne filter diving and see if he might be a better lynch than ShiaoPi.

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United States1956 Posts

October 01 2013 08:03 GMT

#1912

On October 01 2013 16:36 WaveofShadow wrote:
Before I go to bed, I'd just like to say I don't think I'll be considering a switch to VA at all today anymore.

WAY too many people popping up out of the woodwork calling VA scummy now when I've been saying it all game.
Fuck that shit, it looks awful on all of you. Especially FT.
You're going down, scum.

You realize that VA made a post and that particular post was scummy to numerous people, right? Thus, numerous people reconsider their choice of lynch based on RECENT developments. Just because you thought VA was scummy all along doesn't mean that we have no right to find him scummy later on based on more recent posting.

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United States1956 Posts

October 01 2013 08:04 GMT

#1913

VE isn't in the game anymore, so why is he on the vote count?

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United States1956 Posts

October 01 2013 08:16 GMT

#1915

Sorry, I'm so stupid. lol

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United States1956 Posts

October 01 2013 08:19 GMT

#1916

I'm going to sleep. Got class in the morning. I'll be around in about 10 hours.

##Unvote: ShiaoPi
##Vote: VayneAuthority

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United States1956 Posts

October 01 2013 08:19 GMT

#1917

##Unvote: ShiaoPi
##Vote: VayneAuthority

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United States1956 Posts

October 01 2013 18:07 GMT

#2070

Since I'm probably going to get lynched today, I'll try to put my reads out there for everyone to use after the flip. Remember to watch how people are voting today. I think the people who voted me earlier are more likely to be scum than the later ones.

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United States1956 Posts

October 01 2013 18:49 GMT

#2078

I actually agree with Austin on solstice. I would also like to add a few of my thoughts on the guy. Solstice popped into the thread at a very specific time.

My lynch was starting to become the lynch of choice and it looked almost inevitable that I would die. There is a lot of scum motivation for solstice to act in the manner that he did. He walked in, soft-defended me, and promptly left.

The motivation here is to be on the right side of the lynch after it goes down. Solstice is a replacement and knows that he needs something to gain town cred quickly before people start forming opinions of him. If he's on the right side of my lynch, it makes him look a lot better. If I flip scum, he can just chalk it up to not having read the thread or something.

The guy is walking a tightrope, but is doing so very carefully.

However, that being said, I do not think a discussion of him is a productive use of our time right now. He isn't getting lynched so questioning him can wait. Let's talk about ShiaoPi first.

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United States1956 Posts

October 01 2013 18:56 GMT

#2081

ShiaoPi has been repeating that I am lynchbait material and therefore I can't be scum. I don't follow this logic at all.

How does being lynchbait eliminate the possibility of me being scum? "Lynchbait" is simply a comment of how others view me. It is a comment on perception.

However, it doesn't matter what people think. The reality is that the chance I flip mafia is still around 30%, give or take a few technicalities.

In order for you to accurately determine my alignment, you need to scum hunt. Scumhunting will provide the context for the probability. Simply saying I am lynchbait and then refusing to scumhunt me is extremely anti-town. It shows your unwillingness to play like a townie should. It is another reason why you are scum.

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United States1956 Posts

October 01 2013 18:57 GMT

#2082

##Unvote
##Vote: ShiaoPi

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United States1956 Posts

October 01 2013 19:00 GMT

#2083

I would just like to point out that austin used the same logic that ShiaoPi used to conclude I was town. Austin said something along the lines that ShiaoPi was town because he is usually lynchbait.

Austin, can you explain why you hold this stance and why you think it is acceptable to play this way?

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United States1956 Posts

October 01 2013 19:37 GMT

#2091

Thanks for the clarification, Austin. Do you think that ShiaoPi is using similar logic to categorize me as town or is there some malevolent intention behind ShiaoPi refusing to vote me?

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United States1956 Posts

October 01 2013 19:41 GMT

#2093

Also Austin, Solstice is not getting lynched today. We have to be real about this. There is less than 30 minutes left. You should vote for whomever out of me and ShiaoPi you think is scummier(Hint: ShiaoPi is the right choice). We don't want scum controlling the votes. Let's consolidate.

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United States1956 Posts

October 01 2013 19:58 GMT

#2113

Actually, I think I'm going to die.

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United States1956 Posts

October 01 2013 19:59 GMT

#2119

That vote count doesn't have palmars vote so yeah, I'm dead. GL town. I can't say I enjoyed the game much, but it was nice playin' with y'all.

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United States1956 Posts

October 01 2013 19:59 GMT

#2123

On October 02 2013 04:58 Koshi wrote:
FT tell me. Honest to God. Are you town?

Yes

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United States1956 Posts

October 01 2013 20:00 GMT

#2133

Wait... what the fuck just happened...

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United States1956 Posts

October 01 2013 20:13 GMT

#2141

I give up.

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United States1956 Posts

October 01 2013 20:20 GMT

#2152

Seriously, it's so fucking stupid how WRONG I've been about everything recently. I don't know what I'm doing wrong. It's fucking frustrating. Just going to take a hiatus before I just spiral.

fuck me

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United States1956 Posts

October 02 2013 04:47 GMT

#2283

On October 02 2013 09:37 WaveofShadow wrote:
Hey FT I don't think we've interacted at all this game so far. Is there any particular reason you don't want to even try to prove yourself towny in my eyes?

Yes, actually. Arguing with you is like arguing with a brick wall. It would also derail the thread into discussing people who are not scum. I'd rather keep discussion productive and focus on my scum reads. You can push me all you want, but defending myself is less likely to change your mind than me scumhunting.