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On October 08 2013 03:27 austinmcc wrote:Show nested quote +On October 08 2013 03:26 s0Lstice wrote:On October 08 2013 03:23 austinmcc wrote:On October 08 2013 03:21 s0Lstice wrote:On October 08 2013 03:17 austinmcc wrote:On October 08 2013 03:15 s0Lstice wrote:On October 08 2013 03:13 raynpelikoneet wrote: Solstice, last chance, do you want to take the deal or not? No. I can't win. It's basically impossible so I'd rather sit out. You can win in our hearts. WHY CLAIM COP? why not? Cuz you could have gone mano e mano against CC. Instead, you forced yourself to die. What if I wanted to kill Koshi? I think you had a much better chance of suiciding into CC, or maybe getting scum CC, than you did getting Koshi killed.
what does a boy do for lulz around here anyway?!
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rayn you need to stop lying as town if you're town
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On October 08 2013 03:31 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On October 08 2013 03:30 s0Lstice wrote: rayn you need to stop lying as town if you're town I'd say this but Rayn is probably the ONLY person I have ever seen this kindof thing work for in the past.
this is why he will keep doing it : / i am a firm believer in no lying as town
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On October 08 2013 03:38 raynpelikoneet wrote: Everyone who is town should have "agreed with me" to make Solstice feel comfortable and make him feel like he has higher chances of survival. Instead you shouted the possibly brilliant plan down for no reason.
nope
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On October 08 2013 03:40 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On October 08 2013 03:39 s0Lstice wrote:On October 08 2013 03:38 raynpelikoneet wrote: Everyone who is town should have "agreed with me" to make Solstice feel comfortable and make him feel like he has higher chances of survival. Instead you shouted the possibly brilliant plan down for no reason. nope I don't believe you because you are scum. :D
Naturally
but seriously though there are so many confounding variables in the equation.
make gambit-->town should react in way X-->those who dont are scum
How townies should react is colored by each individual play style and how each person views the game at the moment. This confounds the transition from step 2 to step 3. Townies act suspicious/do not make the smart play all the time and you have no way of accounting for that.
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On October 08 2013 03:49 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On October 08 2013 03:47 raynpelikoneet wrote:On October 08 2013 03:44 WaveofShadow wrote:On October 08 2013 03:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:On October 08 2013 03:41 WaveofShadow wrote:On October 08 2013 03:38 raynpelikoneet wrote: Everyone who is town should have "agreed with me" to make Solstice feel comfortable and make him feel like he has higher chances of survival. Instead you shouted the possibly brilliant plan down for no reason. Nah just being logical, Rayn. Solstice isn't dumb and neither am I. tbh WoS, that's not a reason to try. 90% of my "traps and shit" will not work. But if i succeed even in 1/100 it's worth it. You don't lose by making mistakes, you lose by not trying to do everything you can to kill scum. True, which is why I didn't flat out say RAYN AMG NEVER LIE AS TOWN WTF because I've seen you make it work. Doesn't mean a) I caught on to you doing anything b) Even had I caught on, I'd lie along with you. I supported your attempt to try and get information out of Solstice, but i expressed myself in that I said I didn't think he had any reason to comply. Don't really see the problem. That's bad WoS. When Sol effectively claimed scum, you should have thought "what are rayn's intentions? Okay, he is town, what is he trying to do? Why?" This is even more clear situation for other townies than it was in NWM (where i understand people fucked up -- or reacted in a way i was not expecting -- because of paranoia). There was no possible paranoia in this one. Because you guys can be sure i am town! I wasn't paranoid about your actions. i just didn't really think anything was going to come of it. Solstice any particular reason you chose me for a fake townread? DOES THAT MEAN YOU THINK IM TOWNIE? AMG <3
Yea plus this sets you up for the long game hue
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On October 08 2013 04:02 Koshi wrote: Sorry. 60 pages so 1200 posts were needed and after that people were reliefed they were right. Got to respect rayn, VA and pandain for seeing through the bullshit instantly.
yup your biased!
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On October 08 2013 04:19 austinmcc wrote:Show nested quote +On October 08 2013 04:16 WaveofShadow wrote:On October 08 2013 04:14 austinmcc wrote: Postgame/PMs/never Yup I'm getting there. So Austin! How's the weather where you are? Sunny and 70. Not a shitstorm in the sky. I, for one, am happy that if s0lstice is mafia, we lynched mafia. I am, however, very sad because I thought I might have a brother in role idiocy. But apparently no.
sorry I might still be an idiot, I just don't know yet. That help?
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On October 08 2013 04:28 Koshi wrote: Better flip past banger. Also did you shoot VE? We might spare your life if you tell the truth.
your hubris is unwarranted and kinda cute.
i knew i liked you.
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anyway farewell friends.
want to say again how proud I am of town. serious warm fuzzies after noire. still hope you guys lose though ;D
DRB 4 life. go team go.
gg
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On October 12 2013 12:45 austinmcc wrote: Oh man, WTF OBS. WHY WAS I MAFIA?
Jeez. Even SOLSTICE calling me frigging mafia?
Also, CR, I'm actually really interested in why/how you claimed. Were you actually just giving up? Were you trying to save other team? Trying to look townie?
it came from the massive respect I have for you if it makes you feel better I overthought it. Pandain tunneling Vayne during Palmar's lynch day was basically a scum claim but I deaked myself out of the right conclusion there.
Anyway, the cop claim. It was an idea I had as we were having trouble with thread control. I don't have any animosity towards Ray, but a third member throwing some weight around would have been helpful. I was pretty certain we were going to be lynching mafia that day, in part because of the thread control problem, and in part because the townies were looking pretty town in general. I didn't want it to be the last banger (for reasons you guys know), and CC and I bussing CR for example doesn't set us up very well as he would have been an extremely easy to see through bus. That didn't leave a lot of options, so we went with a crazy one.
I could have just went 1v1 with Mr. CC, but this wouldn't have set the winner up very well either. It wasn't hard to see that scum needed to make a play that day, and a simple mano-e-mano would be far too transparent. We needed to go deeper down the rabbit hole. I claim cop, CC outs me. Worst outcome is I die and CC gets some cred that takes some serious mental horsepower to defuse. Best case is if we hit the 5% chance of actually lynching Koshi. In both cases, we are saving the last Banger.
I threw the idea out in the QT and Mr. CC pulled the trigger when things looked dire.
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gg though to town. really good townplay this game all around.
austin for town mvp imo. you would be 1000% more dangerous if you could just tone down the paranoia ;D
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also thanks to hosts! had a lot of fun.
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On October 12 2013 13:17 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On October 12 2013 13:16 s0Lstice wrote: gg though to town. really good townplay this game all around.
austin for town mvp imo. you would be 1000% more dangerous if you could just tone down the paranoia ;D It's HARD to do that. It's like an infection.
hah I know. you two are cut from the same cloth. thank you for a fun and challenging game.
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