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On October 04 2013 22:14 VisceraEyes wrote: I most want to hear from Palmar who he thinks is scum or I'm completely willing to switch to him, ending his miserable existence. From tonight: On October 02 2013 22:59 Palmar wrote: I really don't know anymore. A few quick thoughts. I'm less sure in my early townreads and more sure in my later ones. Especially I think Koshi, Chairman Ray and Grack are very unlikely scum. VE, Oats, Pandain, WoS more likely than before (but still nowhere near lynch territory, let's say I'm leaning town on them. A quick note on WoS, for someone that was willing to enter an argument early in the game about his proficiency at mafia I don't feel like he is having the influence his own perception of his skill should warrant. If you think you're so good why aren't you trying to lead us? I have still to read CC and the replacements through. I'm assuming at least one if not two scum in there because that's kind of what I do, I always ignore the lay-low scum. SnB still hasn't done jack shit, good candidate for lynching tomorrow. I still think Hiro's entrance into the thread was really awkward and he's not doing much at all, another good lynch. Rayn is a bit of a question mark, he's super reckless (to the point of being willing to die just to make a point, I don't know if he anticipated no one going along with it, or if he just doesn't care). He's doing stupid things, not taking an active stance about anything for the most part except me. I don't really know if all this makes him ballsy scum or reckless town, in both cases he's being very useless. Vayne is another question mark. He's being an asshole about being awful at the game. I have no idea why. He also indicated he's been playing this a long time, which is important because he would probably be pretty towny if he was new to mafia. FT remains a good lynch. And here's my updated reads: I'm going to take Koshi's word for rayn, at this point it should be obvious to everyone koshi is soft-claiming cop and telling us he confirmed rayn last night. CR is the towniest fucker here. I was starting to think Oats might be scum based on his lackluster effort during the shouting match between me and rayn last night, but then he started actually doing things today, so I'm sort of waffling on that. Same about you really, I was ready to call you scum before you started posting today. Maybe one of you guys is scum, I doubt I was wrong on both of you on day 1. Pandain is probably town, his effort level is just too high for him to be scum. I think FT is scum based on all the things I've said about him so far. I think Vayne is scum based on mostly a) the ridiculous plot where he did something dumb, WoS called him out on being dumb, and Vayne claimed it was some kind of a trap. It just makes no sense. And b) I think Vayne's reasoning for switching/hammering Shiaopi yesterday was extremely weak, some kind of a policy. I didn't even notice it at the time (I thought Koshi had brought the hammer on Shiaopi). I think s0lstice is a good candidate for scum, I skimmed his filter and he hasn't really provided us with anything worth keeping him alive. I need to read him more closely to conclude anything and I'm hoping to use the night for that when I don't have to spend my energy defending myself. For some reason I still haven't noticed/read/done anything about CC, I really need to find time to read him through, seeing as I keep ignoring lay-low scum. I had a townread on WoS and I haven't updated that read at all. At quick glance his activity level seems to have dropped. No idea if it's significant, hell, my activity level has dropped. FT should be an auto-lynch today so I suppose there's less to discuss than usual. | ||
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On October 04 2013 23:38 VisceraEyes wrote: I don't understand why FT is an auto-lynch maybe you can walk me through it. Pandain has put a lot of effort into explaining why he thinks FT is in fact town, are you just not going to comment on any of that Palmar? Some of it is pretty convincing, and FT has just like disappeared. Shit, he may even draw a modkill. If he draws a modkill that's fine then. Do you think him disappearing (not that he was ever around much) says anything about his alignment? I haven't read Pandain's arguments in detail, but I'm falling back on what I said about FT on day 1. It still applies, no matter what he has done since. I'll read up on why people think he may be town, but I have an extremely hard time believing that he is. | ||
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On October 04 2013 23:56 VisceraEyes wrote: No I don't believe that him disappearing says anything about his alignment. Just like I don't think that my disappearing for a while was alignment indicative. Just like you disappearing wasn't alignment indicative. :/ What really irks me is Wave's insistence on FT tbh. Like, FT is NOTORIOUSLY bad with regard to activity iirc, and he's pretty often suspected as a result. But he's like, literally opting out of discussion today simply to get this lynch that is already happening. Doesn't that strike you as odd? Eh, I had a townread on Wave, I think it is back from day 1 because of his willingness to engage in the conversation. I haven't updated it. Maybe I was wrong, not sure I'm going to filter-dive him today figure out if I am. Also, there's two scumteams, they might both be scum. | ||
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He has already posted this cycle, so he is very much aware of this game. | ||
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On October 05 2013 00:19 WaveofShadow wrote: Show nested quote + On October 05 2013 00:14 Palmar wrote: btw, planning a voteswing is usually an awful idea. I know I should probably not be arguing this as said voteswing most likely would be onto me, but if I'm FT and reading this thread right now, I just don't post anything, hope town voteswings and post my vote right at the deadline. He's dead anyway and it stops town from usefulness for another cycle. He has already posted this cycle, so he is very much aware of this game. What do you mean by planning a vote swing? Should I not have said where I am likely to vote if FT gets modkilled? I'm not sure I understand what you're referring to. I'm replying to Koshi here: On October 04 2013 23:56 Koshi wrote: Yeah, we better prepare a major swing in votes if FT doesn't come back. Will FT be modkilled if he doesn't vote We don't know if FT will be modkilled until the deadline, we don't know if he'll come in and last-minute vote until then. So if we swing the votes say... 2 minutes before the deadline, he might come in and save himself from the modkill, forcing us to lynch him tomorrow instead. | ||
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On October 05 2013 00:28 austinmcc wrote: Show nested quote + And scum only defend scumbuddies! They never defend townies.On October 05 2013 00:22 raynpelikoneet wrote: Except Pandain, there is a connection between him and SnB. SnB defended FT quite a bit in FT -- ShiaoPi lynch last day. Show nested quote + Trying not to play the "toss everything Palmar says on the scummy pile" game, but this statement is just lazy/bad/anti-town.On October 05 2013 00:14 Palmar wrote: btw, planning a voteswing is usually an awful idea. I know I should probably not be arguing this as said voteswing most likely would be onto me, but if I'm FT and reading this thread right now, I just don't post anything, hope town voteswings and post my vote right at the deadline. He's dead anyway and it stops town from usefulness for another cycle. He has already posted this cycle, so he is very much aware of this game. I guarantee you FT doesn't have magical powers where his being alive prevents people from posting, from reading, from doing anything. If he survives another 18,000 nights, we'll all have the capacity to read and post. Sure, but motivation goes down when you're just default-lynching. Discussion decreases too. I cba going back to other games where there is a default lynch (cop check, confirmed scum etc) to see if I'm actually right, but I have a strong feeling it does. | ||
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On October 05 2013 00:28 VisceraEyes wrote: I could probably lynch rayn too. Just throwin that out there. Probably a bad idea, our double-soft-claim-cop is calling him 100% guarantee town. | ||
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On October 05 2013 00:46 Pandain wrote: Lets not talk about cop claims except to say no one has really claimed cop. Palmar I picked up on Koshi too but why mention it? He obviously didn't get shot by scum last night so why bring it to their attention? He's making no effort at hiding it. I think it's dumb to assume scum just ignores the thread. | ||
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On October 05 2013 03:54 VisceraEyes wrote: I'm used to a town s0lstice being more verbose and transparent with his thought process than I'm seeing here, to be frank. It's cause he's scum... duh | ||
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