Oh damn, right as Baja posts. Oh well, I'll stay on Mluneth until the deadline nears. If Baja decides for stormtemplar I'm going back to that vote. I think both have been suspicious and we can gain information about the game based on lynching either of them.

Lynching inactives gives us what?

JonnyLaw

United States3482 Posts

September 26 2013 21:46 GMT

#215

MLuneth played oddly to say the least. I'm intrigued and think he could very well be mafia.

JonnyLaw

United States3482 Posts

September 26 2013 21:59 GMT

#227

Well, MLuneth could be considered one of the inactive players since he has not voted.

JonnyLaw

United States3482 Posts

September 26 2013 22:01 GMT

#232

I agree, MLuneth is not the optimal choice but he's semi-inactive and my stormtemplar vote would not go through anyway.

storm said he'd be back home soon to give us a reason to not vote him out next time. There is that part as well.

So much inactivity hurts when some players are putting in a lot of effort.

JonnyLaw

United States3482 Posts

September 26 2013 22:08 GMT

#234

Just a bad townie indeed.

JonnyLaw

United States3482 Posts

September 27 2013 05:15 GMT

#264

I'll be back in a few hours as well to check the logs again. I'll give my updated opinions at that point.

Glad to see a couple awols might make it back into the game.

JonnyLaw

United States3482 Posts

September 27 2013 22:41 GMT

#282

In my summation I said I wanted to consider Mluneth scum very badly because of the odd nature of his posts. He sat right below stormtemplar on my list of scum to lynch. His ignorant townie vibe and inactivity felt like a perfect ruse under which to hide rolling mafia. About 20 minutes before the voting deadline it was clear stormtemplar would not be lynched but I saw an opportunity to puruse MLuneth so I jumped on the chance. I felt, and still feel that lynching inactives who claim they will become active is wasting our lynch.

Bottom line is that we need more information and lynching an inactive player is not going to give us anything. And as for nervous posting, well not being able to edit a post is very hard. I read and reread what I have written and then post it and realize I have more on my mind.

I'll get back to my reads in another post shortly but I want to look more into why someone wanted bereft out of the game.

Which questions do we need to ask to read into it more?

He voted jayte rather early and stuck with the vote. This is not a very good tell for anything in my opinion. He criticized myself a bit, and balla very harshly. Is this trying to be a clever ruse to try and start a bandwagon against balla? I'll look at it more as I go through the filters.

JonnyLaw

United States3482 Posts

September 27 2013 23:25 GMT

#286

The more I read playerboy345's filter the more I think he is mafioso.

Let me start from a couple days ago. In his write up on the players he claims
+ Show Spoiler [stormtemplar] +

I think he is town, he made himself very clear on the lurker subject and asked me to elaborate when I wasn't clear enough.
He also questioned the same thing I did - Zaragon not using arguments on his opinion of me. I haven't read anything of him yet that I could even consider a scumread, he just tries to force information out of others.

At this point stormtemplar is yet to be confronted by anyone. Yet storm and playerboy casually agree with each other on a few points later. This means nothing if you think stormtemplar is town, which I do not believe.

Fine, more evidence for you non-believers.

On September 27 2013 06:41 playerboy345 wrote:
Oh and might I add:

Show nested quote +

Right now I'm thinking about switching my vote to Bereft as his last post basically has 0 content and he votes on a "safe bet" just cause why not? It's easy to vote for a safe bet - you don't have to do any analysis, just sit back and watch people die.

He drops this subject and even goes so far as to praise bereft for his good read on onlywonderboy a few short hours later.

On September 27 2013 16:22 playerboy345 wrote:
Thank god I'm not the only one that thinks onlywonderboy is suspicious/stormtemplar doesn't look that scummy. I was getting worried :/
I'll look into BajaBlood's filter later today.

I feel like he's trying to lay the blame elsewhere when bereft comes up dead in the morning.

In bereft's last reads he's pressuring balla slightly and pushing playerboy a little bit. A couple posts ago I said myself as well but I was wrong when I reread the lines.

All of this combined with his very timely post before we lynched MLuneth make me very suspicious. Note that was posted two minutes before the deadline. He had three other posts in the thirty minutes prior so clearly he was around at the lynch deadline and only chose to express his opinion once it was too late and did not elaborate as to why he felt that way.

On September 27 2013 06:58 playerboy345 wrote:
I'm not too comfortable with the MLuneth lynch to be honest, I really don't get that much of a scum read from him :/

Oh yeah, that onlywonderboy vote was odd when clearly he was not going to be lynched. There was time to jump on the blurry bandwagon easily. This may have swayed people to stay on blurry instead of going to MLuneth. It just doesn't add up.

Zaragon expressed his views on why lynching MLuneth more articulately than I managed. Where he felt like blurry was a good pressure target, I felt similarly with stormtemplar. Blurry was never active so I didn't see an incentive to push him. Storm had been fairly active so I still think I had a very good target for pressure and lynching if he did not respond well enough. When the time came, not enough of you agreed with me.

JonnyLaw

United States3482 Posts

September 27 2013 23:27 GMT

#288

EBWOP: Why lynching MLuneth was the right decision.

JonnyLaw

United States3482 Posts

September 27 2013 23:38 GMT

#289

I'm still just reading stormtemplar oddly by the way. His little write up claims Zaragon and bereft as pro-town which not a lot of people have been arguing yet.

He gives me a hard time, basically repeating what "pro town zaragon" said a couple posts earlier. This is fair enough since I tried to have him lynched.

Then he tries to separate himself from playerboy.

And for the rest he essentially says nothing or repeats what other have said in a non-accusatory manner. I just think he wants to fly under the radar and get attention away from the ties he had to playerboy and anything to do with bereft. A "he's town I wouldn't dislike him!" type of post.

JonnyLaw

United States3482 Posts

September 28 2013 03:49 GMT

#296

Hey stormtemplar no need to get so defensive. The point of this game is to find mafia. I happen to think you're part of the scum. When you're so angry it doesn't change my mind at all.

I was waiting on day 1 for you to make a post or say something that changed my opinion it didn't happen. I'm still waiting for that to happen to be honest. I don't want to lynch townies, but when someone seems scummy it's the perfect opportunity to get the town ahead with a good read.

JonnyLaw

United States3482 Posts

September 29 2013 00:29 GMT

#314

Yo, Zaragon could be scum playing better than you. This aggressive posting does not help our cause at all.

I said what I thought and you got so defensive about it for no reason. Plenty of people here called me out in earlier posts as well.

I'm sorry for having a life and only being able to post 2 minutes before the deadline, I didn't f5 the page like my life depended on it because I was playing a game with my friends - when I came back it was almost time.

When you posted three times in that 30 minute time span.

##vote playerboy345

We're backed into a corner where we have 1-2 days to get a vote right. You're making my gamble easier.

JonnyLaw

United States3482 Posts

September 29 2013 01:05 GMT

#316

Who can you tell me is 100% mafia? Isn't this whole game a calculated gamble?

I think it is. And I think we all are playing quite poorly to be honest. Backed into a corner is no place to be. This is a game of calculated risks and you're making mine less and less of a risk. Show me otherwise I'm happy to see clear evidence that someone is mafia so I can vote confidently.

JonnyLaw

United States3482 Posts

September 29 2013 18:04 GMT

#328

Hey sorry, inconvenient timing for me. I'll be around an hour before voting deadline and gonna check some filters now and see if anything stands out.

Is this game particularly hard to make reads because of all the inactives? Maybe I'm just bad.

JonnyLaw

United States3482 Posts

September 29 2013 18:17 GMT

#330

Okay real quick overview.

Bajablood seems town. I'm almost positive to be honest. Zaragon, I hope he's town. Otherwise we got outplayed badly.

Heavenz is either mafia getting lazy because they feel like it's GG or he's a frustrated townie because of the afks (as am I). I'm honestly a bit torn at this point. Heavenz has been eager to bandwagon people, but I've had similar reads.

Until someone shows otherwise heavenz and playerboy are so very, very scummy. And if they're not then onlywonderboy is and we lose?

JonnyLaw

United States3482 Posts

September 29 2013 18:19 GMT

#331

EBWOP, uhhh let me read this huge playerboy post. He deserves a chance to redeem himself.

JonnyLaw

United States3482 Posts

September 29 2013 20:45 GMT

#356

Hey guys, the more I think about the more I feel like we're getting MLuneth2.0 by lynching onlywonderboy. I've been going over it my head and rereading his logs. He could be mafia but that's just not the feeling I'm getting.

heavenz and playerboy seem much scummier in their posting. We're going lynch onlywonderboy for lack of content in a noob game? I dunno, give me some more reasons than that and I'm more than happy to hop aboard the lynch train.

JonnyLaw

United States3482 Posts

September 29 2013 21:18 GMT

#359

Yeah, the players who signed up and didn't show up put us in a rough a rough spot. Without that we can lynch onlywonderboy or heavenz and go from there.

I'm going to keep digging and see what I come up with here.

JonnyLaw

United States3482 Posts

September 29 2013 21:23 GMT

#362

I will vote heavenz as well if nothing changes. His flip flopping looks badly but at the same time he does seem passionate about the game. Fuck, forum mafia too hard.

JonnyLaw

United States3482 Posts

September 29 2013 21:48 GMT

#370

I'm sticking with my gut this time. I messed up day one and MLuneth got lynched.

##vote playerboy345

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