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On September 15 2013 07:41 Old Partner wrote:
I'm not saying there's no reason to be suspicious of me-- there obviously is. 2 survivors in a game, especially a normal mini, is pretty rare. But it happens! ShiaoPi is crazy, he'd do it. I'm not confirmed scum. So given that there's a non-zero chance that I am who I say I am, all I ask is this: read what I have to say today. If you dismiss it, you dismiss it. But I will try to convince you to let me live.
yeahh...
no.
Would still rather kill SnB tho.
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On September 15 2013 09:37 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On September 15 2013 09:35 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 15 2013 09:26 WaveofShadow wrote:Thanks a lot assholes. + Show Spoiler + you were obvscum. scum thousht you were obvtown. trolol It was the SK.
Tell more.
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On September 15 2013 09:38 Zealos wrote:Show nested quote +On September 15 2013 07:41 Old Partner wrote:
I'm not saying there's no reason to be suspicious of me-- there obviously is. 2 survivors in a game, especially a normal mini, is pretty rare. But it happens! ShiaoPi is crazy, he'd do it. I'm not confirmed scum. So given that there's a non-zero chance that I am who I say I am, all I ask is this: read what I have to say today. If you dismiss it, you dismiss it. But I will try to convince you to let me live. yeahh... no. Would still rather kill SnB tho.
Why?
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On September 15 2013 09:41 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On September 15 2013 09:37 Koshi wrote:On September 15 2013 09:35 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 15 2013 09:26 WaveofShadow wrote:Thanks a lot assholes. + Show Spoiler + you were obvscum. scum thousht you were obvtown. trolol It was the SK. Tell more.
No way in hell that WoS was killed by scummers.
WoS good target for SK though.
Makes total sense.
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Unless VA is scum and he thought WoS was blue now that he was so certain WoS wasn't 3p.
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On September 15 2013 09:38 Zealos wrote:Show nested quote +On September 15 2013 07:41 Old Partner wrote:
I'm not saying there's no reason to be suspicious of me-- there obviously is. 2 survivors in a game, especially a normal mini, is pretty rare. But it happens! ShiaoPi is crazy, he'd do it. I'm not confirmed scum. So given that there's a non-zero chance that I am who I say I am, all I ask is this: read what I have to say today. If you dismiss it, you dismiss it. But I will try to convince you to let me live. yeahh... no. Would still rather kill SnB tho.
Man SnB is actually town but if enough people want to lynch him that it will save me, fuck it, i'm down
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Zealos besides SnB who do you think is scum.
Why did you make this post and how can you justify it;
On September 15 2013 09:38 Zealos wrote:Show nested quote +On September 15 2013 07:41 Old Partner wrote:
I'm not saying there's no reason to be suspicious of me-- there obviously is. 2 survivors in a game, especially a normal mini, is pretty rare. But it happens! ShiaoPi is crazy, he'd do it. I'm not confirmed scum. So given that there's a non-zero chance that I am who I say I am, all I ask is this: read what I have to say today. If you dismiss it, you dismiss it. But I will try to convince you to let me live. yeahh... no. Would still rather kill SnB tho.
When before you made this post.
On September 14 2013 07:18 Zealos wrote:
I think OP/BH needs to die. Survivor = lynch
I doubt he even is Survivor. His attempt to argue his way out of it is crummy, at best. Get it?
##Predayvote:OP
vigipls
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On September 15 2013 10:08 Pandain wrote: Zealos besides SnB who do you think is scum. Why did you make this post and how can you justify it; Show nested quote +On September 15 2013 09:38 Zealos wrote:On September 15 2013 07:41 Old Partner wrote:
I'm not saying there's no reason to be suspicious of me-- there obviously is. 2 survivors in a game, especially a normal mini, is pretty rare. But it happens! ShiaoPi is crazy, he'd do it. I'm not confirmed scum. So given that there's a non-zero chance that I am who I say I am, all I ask is this: read what I have to say today. If you dismiss it, you dismiss it. But I will try to convince you to let me live. yeahh... no. Would still rather kill SnB tho. When before you made this post. Show nested quote +On September 14 2013 07:18 Zealos wrote:
I think OP/BH needs to die. Survivor = lynch
I doubt he even is Survivor. His attempt to argue his way out of it is crummy, at best. Get it?
##Predayvote:OP
vigipls
oh shit this is so on the money I take back my last statement and I +1, Like, and Give 2 Eprops to this statement
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I got roleblocked. And am at dinner with my girlfriend so will not be posting any more tonight.
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That's a pretty strong roleblock.
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So SnB is likely town and BH is going to yell that WOS got RB and that SnB is scum. Funzies for tomorrow. Sleepy time for me.
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On September 15 2013 10:18 strongandbig wrote:
I got roleblocked. And am at dinner with my girlfriend so will not be posting any more tonight.
I think I know how to catch this rolebocker, what is the name of your GF's TL account? IS IT THE KUSHM4STA???
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Silly scummers doing a RB on SnB tbh.
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Ok, just want to chip in on what happened with the nks.
I think it's safe to say the scum nk didn't go through for whatever reason.
WoS could be either SK or vig kill.
BH should be autolynched this cycle. The odds of having two survivors in a 15 player game is almost 0 to none. His role pm is not a role in the Golden Sun series. No one is called by "the captain" in the series (at least through my research). BH is not playing pro town at all, even during the night phase, which either means he thinks scum will win or he is scum (either way he won't help us). His crumb doesn't really make sense for just a survivor. Finally, lynching him clears up alot of confusion that could happen down the line at lylo.
While is he getting lynched today we should talk about the lynch candidates for day 3. My main candidate is zealos. Not sure about who the second would be at this point.
@Pandain
I really need you to answer this question for me, because it could clear up alot of confusion I have that makes me think you aren't town. There is a huge reason why I am asking you this.
On September 15 2013 06:37 Papa_Smurf wrote:Show nested quote +On September 15 2013 06:35 Pandain wrote:
It wasn't really calculating, and my memory is hazy because it happened last night and then someone woke me up at 4 am and really disrupted my memory of events before(basically something big happened), and I wasn't thinking I would have to defend myself.
Basically here:
I paniced, didn't think we would get votes for OP. By my reasoning(which I forget how I did because I didn't think it would matter), OP was going to be lynched. Given that I didn't think he was scum or that we would get another vote, I voted blubber who was more likely. So you didn't look at this votecount Show nested quote +On September 14 2013 06:38 ShiaoPi wrote:
Day 1 Votecount:
strongandbig(0): Koshi, Papa_Smurf, Koshi, raynpelikoneet, Zealos, blubbdavid, raynpelikoneet
VayneAuthority(0): Papa_Smurf
WaveofShadow(0): kushm4sta
Grackaroni(0): WaveofShadow
kushm4sta(4): Papa_Smurf, Pandain, Old Partner, Papa_Smurf, Zealos
Pandain(0): Grackaroni
Old Partner(6): raynpelikoneet Grackaroni, Oatsmaster, blubbdavid, Umasi, raynpelikoneet, WaveofShadow
Koshi(0): blubbdavid
blubbdavid(4): VayneAuthority, Grackaroni, Sn0_man, Umasi, Papa_Smurf, raynpelikoneet, kushm4sta, Koshi
Zealos(1): blubbdavid, strongandbig
raynpelikoneet(0): strongandbig
Currently Old Partner is set to be lynched! Remember, voting is mandatory!
Next deadline:
Deadline date: Friday, Sep 13 10:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00)
and then use addition and subtraction for the next three vote switches?
Like really, your game indicates you are town except for this damn vote on blubb over zealos. Please just answer completely with you thought process to figuring out how many votes OP, Blubb, and zealos had right before the lynch.
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Oh and I would believe the SnB roleblock because of my slight town read on him. That doesn't necessarily mean it happened on him, seeing as I would think it's possible WoS would hide n1. But, I would think it did happen on him.
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On September 15 2013 10:09 Old Partner wrote:Show nested quote +On September 15 2013 10:08 Pandain wrote: Zealos besides SnB who do you think is scum. Why did you make this post and how can you justify it; On September 15 2013 09:38 Zealos wrote:On September 15 2013 07:41 Old Partner wrote:
I'm not saying there's no reason to be suspicious of me-- there obviously is. 2 survivors in a game, especially a normal mini, is pretty rare. But it happens! ShiaoPi is crazy, he'd do it. I'm not confirmed scum. So given that there's a non-zero chance that I am who I say I am, all I ask is this: read what I have to say today. If you dismiss it, you dismiss it. But I will try to convince you to let me live. yeahh... no. Would still rather kill SnB tho. When before you made this post. On September 14 2013 07:18 Zealos wrote:
I think OP/BH needs to die. Survivor = lynch
I doubt he even is Survivor. His attempt to argue his way out of it is crummy, at best. Get it?
##Predayvote:OP
vigipls oh shit this is so on the money I take back my last statement and I +1, Like, and Give 2 Eprops to this statement
I very much agree
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this just in.. papassurf pandain and op are all gay each toehr
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Hey guys, remember that we haven't won yet, even though it's starting to look really good. Let's keep up the good town atmosphere.
Your posts should make points, this allows us to help analyze you later and also you share your thought process!
I'm going through what, first, is the obvious choice. Lynch OP . His original posts following the thread:
On September 15 2013 07:36 Old Partner wrote:
Well how boned am I now? fuck
show or indicate a mindset where he is willing to give up. As in, he doesn't believe he can prove he's town.
Furthermore, I actually do agree there is a chance that there are two survivors. I never rule out the impossible. However, it is indicative he is scum because of the retroactive effect, the less likely there are two be two survivors, the more that he's scum. Alright, makes sense.
To me he's going to end up scum because I can't see there being two KP. If both scum and SK hit townies, without blue intervention, town could only have two mislynches, which is pretty harsh.
So for further analysis during this day we should assume he's scum, although again it's not certain and if wrong we need to re-evaluate things.
Kush is certain scum to me.
His post here reveals he knew scum had fake claims.
He later explains here:
On September 14 2013 07:43 kushm4sta wrote:
I asked about this as soon as I got my role. There are fake claims so mass claim well just out blues
There's no way he asks this when he gets his role. Why would anyone ever do that on this planet.
This alone is enough for me, but I will also add that he doesn't give a shit, is actively trolling, but then says he will try and play serious. He is doing a persona of a troll rather than an actual troll. But again, the above was enough for me anyway.
Koshi is town
His posts are too genuine. Here is his filter. Here you go! Like Rayn, he posts a shit-ton, but however unlike Rayn you see a logical progression of ideas and they always have an immediate point and an intent to promote discussion. If you have questions about this please ask me and I'll go more in detail with specific posts.
Umasi is town
Doesn't post much, but is attempting to promote discussion, albeit late because he was a replacement. Also Goodkarma struck town to me as he correctly identified the pointless koshi/grack/va/snb situation.
This post to me seems like he's attempting to generate discussion:
On September 13 2013 18:13 Umasi wrote:Show nested quote +Picking koshi may seem random, I picked him because his posts rubbed me the wrong way and I didn't want to meddle with the SnB bandwagon then. Is this scummy? Well it could be scummy if SnB were scum.
Koshi's push against SnB then was even less justified then my read on Koshi. few things with this line, blub. kind of a wacky thing to phrase, but why didn't you want to mess with the wagon? like, why is that a thought that even entered your head? 'Should I interfere with this or not' and in the underlined, you say 'if SnB were scum' why are you speaking in a different tense than the present? I think it's a breach in mentality, you are scum, SAB is town, and since you know this, phrased it the way you did accidentally. ##VOTE BLUByour opening post struck me really wrong, the fact that you fos(or whatever you did, lightly pressure) grack makes me think grack is kinda townie since you're pretty scummy. gotta go to sleep now, not nearly done catching up with the thread, will check in in the morning and try to catch up as much as possible before school.
He pressures blub, but rather than go afk eventually or even stick with "he's suspicious,"
he actually changes to the scum that we now know in OP
Rayn
I'm a lot less suspicious of Rayn, honestly. To be frank most of my analysis was that he was disrupting the thread, and trying to nail everyone who I thought was town. But him on OP is one of the main tells that he's town, he actively didn't vote for blub(or zealos, if we assume zealos is town), despite an active presence in the thread. This vote, disregarding on what he says, indicates to me he is probably town.
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