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On September 14 2013 06:40 strongandbig wrote:
Panda why do you say zealos is not going to happen. There are enough people active for a last minute vote switch to work. No one has said they're strongly against a zealos lunch. How about everyone who would be okay win zealos rather than old partner just switch now and can squelch back in ten minutes if it doesn't reach majority.
I still think this guy is scum. He's flipping from person to person who he feels are easy targets.
If you're gonna write lots, at least try to look like you're being useful~
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On September 14 2013 06:35 Pandain wrote:Show nested quote +On September 14 2013 06:34 Pandain wrote:On September 14 2013 06:32 Koshi wrote:
Ahhhhh fucking screw it.
But I think Kush is Isaac. (he better is not a blue role)
Because he asked mods about fake role names apparently. + he commented twice on it.
Don't lynch Kush. Actually that's another good point. He said that scum are given fake claims. There's no way he actively asked the OP about such a random matter when it's clear he doesn't give a shit about the game in thread What about this Rayn? Isn't this inherently more suspicious than whatever you feel about OP?
He easily could have asked if his role was actually Isaac as koshi suggested
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Look at the VOTES. They don't make SENSE. They are SUDDEN and LAST MINUTE, with those posts being out of the blue in regards to your filter. Doesn't mean they're all mafia but it indicates that OP is probably not.
SnB, me, Rayn, Zelos, Koshi are active. Without anyone pushing actively, Zealos isn't going to be lynched.
Will you switch your vote than to kush at 5 minutes before?
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On September 14 2013 06:42 Zealos wrote:Show nested quote +On September 14 2013 06:40 strongandbig wrote:
Panda why do you say zealos is not going to happen. There are enough people active for a last minute vote switch to work. No one has said they're strongly against a zealos lunch. How about everyone who would be okay win zealos rather than old partner just switch now and can squelch back in ten minutes if it doesn't reach majority. I still think this guy is scum. He's flipping from person to person who he feels are easy targets. If you're gonna write lots, at least try to look like you're being useful~
How am I flipping. I want to lynch you and Ryan. Where have I flopped.
Plus how in the fuck is Ryan an easy target. About the hardest in this thread judging by sheer aggressiveness and willingness to omgus heavily
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I'm back, I'm surprised by all of the votes piling in on OP but I still think he is a good lynch.
@Pandain: What do you mean I didn't give reasons on OP? I thought I gave my reasons pretty clearly for why OP is scum. Just not recently because OP hasn't posted anything new since my last read on him.
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I am gettng a town read on Pandain from his recent posts though so I will have to think about this.
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On September 14 2013 06:41 Pandain wrote:Show nested quote +On September 14 2013 06:39 raynpelikoneet wrote:
How does it make him scum and why has noone asked anything about it from him until now?
fucking 20min before the lynch... And then people say "noone is defending OP". Yeah fucking right.
Kush is my town read, i will not vote for him and if you lynch him it's gonna be a mislynch. Only I am really defending OP. At least actively. Koshi is also and so is Papa, but I'm the one actually trying to not get him lynched. What about the point about fake claims? Are you ignoring information? How can you say that you can differentiate a scum kush and town kush on day one? Is a scum kush than productive and help scum hunt? Why are you so certain he's town, it seems to me it would be more logical to say you're simply uncertain.
kushmasta
Formerly the easiest read ever. When kushmasta is right he is scum, because he loves being right! When kushmasta is wrong he is town, because he doesn't read the thread and goes on with purely feel based reads! Don't be fooled by this however. Last game this guy actually decided to pay attention as town and nailed every mafia member on the wall! Which is it this time?
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On September 14 2013 06:43 Pandain wrote:
Look at the VOTES. They don't make SENSE. They are SUDDEN and LAST MINUTE, with those posts being out of the blue in regards to your filter. Doesn't mean they're all mafia but it indicates that OP is probably not.
SnB, me, Rayn, Zelos, Koshi are active. Without anyone pushing actively, Zealos isn't going to be lynched.
Will you switch your vote than to kush at 5 minutes before?
No. I think kush is town and I have no read on op.
I would consider switching to blubb if someone would make a fucking case on him. Or even link me to one. I want a case to evaluate.
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On September 14 2013 06:43 Grackaroni wrote:
I'm back, I'm surprised by all of the votes piling in on OP but I still think he is a good lynch.
@Pandain: What do you mean I didn't give reasons on OP? I thought I gave my reasons pretty clearly for why OP is scum. Just not recently because OP hasn't posted anything new since my last read on him.
Yeah no I thought I excluded you. You gave reasons before on suspicion, but I meant that prior you seem from your posts that it's either SnB or bubbles who you're looking at, then 7 hours later you vote OP.
Sorry if that's not clear, not saying your mafia just an overall strangeness which you didn't explain.
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Still down for a Zealos lynch.
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On September 14 2013 06:43 strongandbig wrote:Show nested quote +On September 14 2013 06:42 Zealos wrote:On September 14 2013 06:40 strongandbig wrote:
Panda why do you say zealos is not going to happen. There are enough people active for a last minute vote switch to work. No one has said they're strongly against a zealos lunch. How about everyone who would be okay win zealos rather than old partner just switch now and can squelch back in ten minutes if it doesn't reach majority. I still think this guy is scum. He's flipping from person to person who he feels are easy targets. If you're gonna write lots, at least try to look like you're being useful~ How am I flipping. I want to lynch you and Ryan. Where have I flopped. Plus how in the fuck is Ryan an easy target. About the hardest in this thread judging by sheer aggressiveness and willingness to omgus heavily
He was a target way ago. At this point he's difficult, which is why you're votes on me not him.
I think you're scum
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Yeah Pandain is either town or really good scum. I don't trust his read on kush / OP however.
SnB how am i OMGUSing?
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On September 14 2013 06:45 Pandain wrote:Show nested quote +On September 14 2013 06:43 Grackaroni wrote:
I'm back, I'm surprised by all of the votes piling in on OP but I still think he is a good lynch.
@Pandain: What do you mean I didn't give reasons on OP? I thought I gave my reasons pretty clearly for why OP is scum. Just not recently because OP hasn't posted anything new since my last read on him. Yeah no I thought I excluded you. You gave reasons before on suspicion, but I meant that prior you seem from your posts that it's either SnB or bubbles who you're looking at, then 7 hours later you vote OP. Sorry if that's not clear, not saying your mafia just an overall strangeness which you didn't explain.
I don't remember thinking S&B was scum. My reads were you/bubbles. but that's aside the point right now.
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Based it off of this.
On September 14 2013 03:13 Grackaroni wrote:
I'm trying to rack my brain around a townie motivation for S&B to say that Rayn is hard to read when he's shown that he has an easy time reading rayn in postgame (where he couldn't have been lying) and I cannot think of one. S&B is a good lynch.
I don't know what to say.
Thought I made my points clear.
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It was your second to last post before you came back.
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On September 14 2013 06:45 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Yeah Pandain is either town or really good scum. I don't trust his read on kush / OP however.
SnB how am i OMGUSing?
You didn't start thinking I was scum until I posted this
On September 13 2013 03:18 strongandbig wrote:Hey guys Posting from phone in class Posting notes: + Show Spoiler +
Partner wants to know if I have a scum read on koshi
I don't like pandaman's role name reasoning. No reason hosts can't mix up the roles or give scum safe fake claims. Also from his post his opinions are basically easy ones - kush needs to straighten up. No lurking. Super scummy opening post IMO.
Then in his next post grack makes a decent attack but twists pandaman's argument - he didn't say lynch grack cause he's bad. He said lunch grack cause he's noncommittal.
Ppl talking about me finding debears smurf slip as coach. I clicked profile and last posts on his account. Not very hard to do.
I like Ryan's first four posts/entry into the thread. Okay wait maybe not - rayne is quibbling about old partners questions with koshi but asking about stupid things...
Rayen says that good karma looks good about the early day 1 quarrel - wtf where did this come from...
Ryan's reasons for saying that grack is scum are also terrible. And he keeps going on about panda in being better than old partner but they just feel completely different...
Anyway non rayne notes.
Fracks case on blubbdavod interesting . Go reread.
Wtf is up with snoman yelling about onegu
Here's the thing with Ryan. He argues and gets in people's faces and posts a million times as either alignment. The biggest difference is when he's scum he argues about things that don't matter and don't move the town forward, but when he's town he actually pushes on points that are important. Just compare his scum filter from game of thrones and compare that to his town filter from aperture 2, the difference is obvious. My first reaction is "this is scum Ryan". He's arguing a lot about old partners questions from early in the game but he's finding quibbles and there's no way what koshi thinks of those questions is remotely worth the amount of text Ryan puts in. Ditto for the arguing about whether grack could really have changed his mind for the reasons he said. I'm not sure about rayne though. For me it's always hard to figure him out for sure because of how constantly interactive he is even as scum. One other thing - I think panda in is scum. His post was that bad and opening posts are inportant. He had only easy scum opinions - lunch kush, lurkers bad - in that post. plus he has obviously bad reasoning on role names and bad justification for his town reads on me, va, and gk. like, what townie sees someone whose only comment on the main issues in the thread was "that's silly" and says "oh yes that guy is town, the whole thread really was a distraction." Plus I don't think vayne was moving the thread forward as much as shouting at people/being aggro, and it was really easy for me to click on papasmirf's profile button. None of those strike me as townie reasons for townreads. Right now I want to lynch pandaman's. however, before I vote I want to reread the blurb case as well. Anyway I have a problem set due tmo so I'm probably not gonna be voting until tomorrow morning.
And your initial reason for calling me scum was that you disagreed with my case. I would clearly not have come to your attention at all if I hadn't made an attack on you.
Everything you have said against me since then has been tunneling, misinterpreting and overstating aspects of my posts based on the either intentional (if you are scum) or subconscious (if you are town) preconceived decision that I'm scum.
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Look people in thread vote zealos. We can still make it happen
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I'm voting Zealous. Pandain is town and he has good points.
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I guess I'll post one real last time so people understand.
Kush has been playing scummy with him not giving a shit and yet knowing about fake claims, which he wouldn't have done if he didn't give a shit as its totally out of the blue.
He also acted like he didn't care, but then shaped up, which is strange if he actually didn't care.
Even if he's not scum, he is hard to read later on, partly due to what's mentioned above. He is the safer lynch as it's easier to tell out tommorow if blub or OP is scum.
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Pandaind come on vote zealos. Kush isn't happening, people either have town reads on him or are on OP.
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