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Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9856 Posts
September 20 2013 15:13 GMT
#3601
On September 21 2013 00:10 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2013 00:08 Grackaroni wrote:
I can't speak for other people but if Pandain was lynched yesterday and he flipped red, I would be more inclined to trust Debears and lynch you next than to lynch Debears. Plus I'm pretty sure I remember you outlining a situation where the SK can get to lylo from where we are right now without even being stuck in a kingmaker situation.

Okay so. Let's assume that would have happened (i hammered Pandain and he flipped red).
What are you going to say on D4 when i tell you "Why the fuck would i kill Pandain when it proves i am not town if debears is telling the truth?"

That's actually not a bad argument. Will have to think about this. I still doubt there's many players in this game that would choose to let you win in a kingmaker situation which would be your best scenario.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 20 2013 15:16 GMT
#3602
On September 21 2013 00:13 Grackaroni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2013 00:10 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 21 2013 00:08 Grackaroni wrote:
I can't speak for other people but if Pandain was lynched yesterday and he flipped red, I would be more inclined to trust Debears and lynch you next than to lynch Debears. Plus I'm pretty sure I remember you outlining a situation where the SK can get to lylo from where we are right now without even being stuck in a kingmaker situation.

Okay so. Let's assume that would have happened (i hammered Pandain and he flipped red).
What are you going to say on D4 when i tell you "Why the fuck would i kill Pandain when it proves i am not town if debears is telling the truth?"

That's actually not a bad argument. Will have to think about this. I still doubt there's many players in this game that would choose to let you win in a kingmaker situation which would be your best scenario.

I would not give a fuck who chooses or not chooses to let me win. That's my best bet.
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 20 2013 15:25 GMT
#3603
I mean, Grack, look at it:

I am SK here. It's 5-2-1.
My best bet is to hit mafia (because SK's best bet is to hit mafia).
Mafia's best bet is to roleblock me (because mafia want's to have 2 mambers alive so they can rb/kill SK by lynching).
If i am SK mafia is obviously gonna roleblock me. Does it help me? 1 NK, i am dead the next day because 4-2-1.
debears has a check too. Where does that put mafia? Unwinnable situation.

There is no way (1) debears fakeclaimed, (2) i am SK, (3) Pandain is mafia.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 20 2013 15:28 GMT
#3604
TLDR;
SK needs to hit mafia and not get roleblocked.
Mafia needs to roleblock the SK and hit debears.

Actually this is kinda funny situation if you are town, kinda fucked up if you are scum/SK
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
September 20 2013 15:32 GMT
#3605
On September 21 2013 00:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2013 00:06 Oatsmaster wrote:
On September 21 2013 00:00 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Oatsmaster, Grackaroni and Sno_man:

Explain to me how i win as Serial Killer by lynching town!kush over mafia!Pandain from the situation D3? Assume debears is town and telling the truth. Or if you think he is not telling the truht, explain why and then how.

Because then mafia Pandain flipping means you are not town. Then we lynch you.
Ezpz.

NO IT DOESN'T! IT MEANS I AM ANTI TOWN OR DEBEARS IS LYING!

so not town = anti town right?

Yeah and debears has 0 reason to lie, which means his check is good.
Ezpz.
No gg, No skill.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 20 2013 15:37 GMT
#3606
On September 21 2013 00:32 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2013 00:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 21 2013 00:06 Oatsmaster wrote:
On September 21 2013 00:00 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Oatsmaster, Grackaroni and Sno_man:

Explain to me how i win as Serial Killer by lynching town!kush over mafia!Pandain from the situation D3? Assume debears is town and telling the truth. Or if you think he is not telling the truht, explain why and then how.

Because then mafia Pandain flipping means you are not town. Then we lynch you.
Ezpz.

NO IT DOESN'T! IT MEANS I AM ANTI TOWN OR DEBEARS IS LYING!

so not town = anti town right?

Yeah and debears has 0 reason to lie, which means his check is good.
Ezpz.

So what's my plan in winning now as SK?
table for two on a tv tray
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
September 20 2013 15:37 GMT
#3607
On September 21 2013 00:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2013 00:32 Oatsmaster wrote:
On September 21 2013 00:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 21 2013 00:06 Oatsmaster wrote:
On September 21 2013 00:00 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Oatsmaster, Grackaroni and Sno_man:

Explain to me how i win as Serial Killer by lynching town!kush over mafia!Pandain from the situation D3? Assume debears is town and telling the truth. Or if you think he is not telling the truht, explain why and then how.

Because then mafia Pandain flipping means you are not town. Then we lynch you.
Ezpz.

NO IT DOESN'T! IT MEANS I AM ANTI TOWN OR DEBEARS IS LYING!

so not town = anti town right?

Yeah and debears has 0 reason to lie, which means his check is good.
Ezpz.

So what's my plan in winning now as SK?

kill scum, lynch town, kill scum, lynch town, win the game.
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
September 20 2013 15:38 GMT
#3608
I dunno, im not counting.
No gg, No skill.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 20 2013 15:40 GMT
#3609
On September 21 2013 00:37 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2013 00:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 21 2013 00:32 Oatsmaster wrote:
On September 21 2013 00:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 21 2013 00:06 Oatsmaster wrote:
On September 21 2013 00:00 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Oatsmaster, Grackaroni and Sno_man:

Explain to me how i win as Serial Killer by lynching town!kush over mafia!Pandain from the situation D3? Assume debears is town and telling the truth. Or if you think he is not telling the truht, explain why and then how.

Because then mafia Pandain flipping means you are not town. Then we lynch you.
Ezpz.

NO IT DOESN'T! IT MEANS I AM ANTI TOWN OR DEBEARS IS LYING!

so not town = anti town right?

Yeah and debears has 0 reason to lie, which means his check is good.
Ezpz.

So what's my plan in winning now as SK?

kill scum, lynch town, kill scum, lynch town, win the game.

Yeah, and i get lynched at the next day if i am roleblocked?
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 20 2013 15:43 GMT
#3610
Whoever dies during the next night, everyone who is town, vote for Oats as soon as the day starts!
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
September 20 2013 16:01 GMT
#3611
On September 21 2013 00:40 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2013 00:37 Oatsmaster wrote:
On September 21 2013 00:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 21 2013 00:32 Oatsmaster wrote:
On September 21 2013 00:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 21 2013 00:06 Oatsmaster wrote:
On September 21 2013 00:00 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Oatsmaster, Grackaroni and Sno_man:

Explain to me how i win as Serial Killer by lynching town!kush over mafia!Pandain from the situation D3? Assume debears is town and telling the truth. Or if you think he is not telling the truht, explain why and then how.

Because then mafia Pandain flipping means you are not town. Then we lynch you.
Ezpz.

NO IT DOESN'T! IT MEANS I AM ANTI TOWN OR DEBEARS IS LYING!

so not town = anti town right?

Yeah and debears has 0 reason to lie, which means his check is good.
Ezpz.

So what's my plan in winning now as SK?

kill scum, lynch town, kill scum, lynch town, win the game.

Yeah, and i get lynched at the next day if i am roleblocked?

Im like totally confused.
~~~
No gg, No skill.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 20 2013 16:04 GMT
#3612
On September 21 2013 01:01 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2013 00:40 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 21 2013 00:37 Oatsmaster wrote:
On September 21 2013 00:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 21 2013 00:32 Oatsmaster wrote:
On September 21 2013 00:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 21 2013 00:06 Oatsmaster wrote:
On September 21 2013 00:00 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Oatsmaster, Grackaroni and Sno_man:

Explain to me how i win as Serial Killer by lynching town!kush over mafia!Pandain from the situation D3? Assume debears is town and telling the truth. Or if you think he is not telling the truht, explain why and then how.

Because then mafia Pandain flipping means you are not town. Then we lynch you.
Ezpz.

NO IT DOESN'T! IT MEANS I AM ANTI TOWN OR DEBEARS IS LYING!

so not town = anti town right?

Yeah and debears has 0 reason to lie, which means his check is good.
Ezpz.

So what's my plan in winning now as SK?

kill scum, lynch town, kill scum, lynch town, win the game.

Yeah, and i get lynched at the next day if i am roleblocked?

Im like totally confused.
~~~

Of course you are, because you can't find anything townie to say. <3
table for two on a tv tray
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
September 20 2013 16:09 GMT
#3613
,Im confused at why are you defending yourself by reasons like, " HOW DO I WIN"???
What???

I dont see what convinced you that Im the scum rather than sno or grack or whatever.
No gg, No skill.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 20 2013 16:11 GMT
#3614
On September 21 2013 01:09 Oatsmaster wrote:
,Im confused at why are you defending yourself by reasons like, " HOW DO I WIN"???
What???

I dont see what convinced you that Im the scum rather than sno or grack or whatever.

Because Snoman is not scum. That leaves only you and Grack, and i think Grack is town.
What makes me SK?
table for two on a tv tray
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
September 20 2013 16:14 GMT
#3615
On September 21 2013 01:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2013 01:09 Oatsmaster wrote:
,Im confused at why are you defending yourself by reasons like, " HOW DO I WIN"???
What???

I dont see what convinced you that Im the scum rather than sno or grack or whatever.

Because Snoman is not scum. That leaves only you and Grack, and i think Grack is town.
What makes me SK?

ah ok.
Well, over d1 and d2, at the end, your vote has been on EVERYONE.
Like literally everyone in the game at one point in time.

Also I think everyone else other than You/VA/Pandain is town, and you have mentioned earlier that you bussing BH is stupid. I agree.

So yeah. You SK. The game is over. I like how you revert to shouting OATS IS ANTI TOWN GUYS FOR NO FUCKING REASON EVEN THOUGH I CALLED HIM ONE OF THE TOP 3 TOWNIES IN D2.
haha.
Im gonna sleep, will be back in like 20 hours or so.
Expect to see rayn either RB or dead and only 1 nk.


No gg, No skill.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 20 2013 16:17 GMT
#3616
On September 21 2013 01:14 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2013 01:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 21 2013 01:09 Oatsmaster wrote:
,Im confused at why are you defending yourself by reasons like, " HOW DO I WIN"???
What???

I dont see what convinced you that Im the scum rather than sno or grack or whatever.

Because Snoman is not scum. That leaves only you and Grack, and i think Grack is town.
What makes me SK?

ah ok.
Well, over d1 and d2, at the end, your vote has been on EVERYONE.
Like literally everyone in the game at one point in time.

Also I think everyone else other than You/VA/Pandain is town, and you have mentioned earlier that you bussing BH is stupid. I agree.

So yeah. You SK. The game is over. I like how you revert to shouting OATS IS ANTI TOWN GUYS FOR NO FUCKING REASON EVEN THOUGH I CALLED HIM ONE OF THE TOP 3 TOWNIES IN D2.
haha.
Im gonna sleep, will be back in like 20 hours or so.
Expect to see rayn either RB or dead and only 1 nk.



So Vayne is scum and hard bussed his scumbuddy Pandain over voting for kush?
table for two on a tv tray
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
September 20 2013 16:33 GMT
#3617
On September 21 2013 01:17 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2013 01:14 Oatsmaster wrote:
On September 21 2013 01:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 21 2013 01:09 Oatsmaster wrote:
,Im confused at why are you defending yourself by reasons like, " HOW DO I WIN"???
What???

I dont see what convinced you that Im the scum rather than sno or grack or whatever.

Because Snoman is not scum. That leaves only you and Grack, and i think Grack is town.
What makes me SK?

ah ok.
Well, over d1 and d2, at the end, your vote has been on EVERYONE.
Like literally everyone in the game at one point in time.

Also I think everyone else other than You/VA/Pandain is town, and you have mentioned earlier that you bussing BH is stupid. I agree.

So yeah. You SK. The game is over. I like how you revert to shouting OATS IS ANTI TOWN GUYS FOR NO FUCKING REASON EVEN THOUGH I CALLED HIM ONE OF THE TOP 3 TOWNIES IN D2.
haha.
Im gonna sleep, will be back in like 20 hours or so.
Expect to see rayn either RB or dead and only 1 nk.



So Vayne is scum and hard bussed his scumbuddy Pandain over voting for kush?


you know that nobody was going to switch their vote and I would get massive town credit so that's not a bad idea. Doesn't matter since I'm not scum anyway. The only reason you can't see that is because you are the SK. I have proven everything you have thrown at me this game to be a lie, until you actually want to start playing the game you are dead to me.
I come in for the scraps
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 20 2013 16:41 GMT
#3618
On September 21 2013 01:33 VayneAuthority wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2013 01:17 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 21 2013 01:14 Oatsmaster wrote:
On September 21 2013 01:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 21 2013 01:09 Oatsmaster wrote:
,Im confused at why are you defending yourself by reasons like, " HOW DO I WIN"???
What???

I dont see what convinced you that Im the scum rather than sno or grack or whatever.

Because Snoman is not scum. That leaves only you and Grack, and i think Grack is town.
What makes me SK?

ah ok.
Well, over d1 and d2, at the end, your vote has been on EVERYONE.
Like literally everyone in the game at one point in time.

Also I think everyone else other than You/VA/Pandain is town, and you have mentioned earlier that you bussing BH is stupid. I agree.

So yeah. You SK. The game is over. I like how you revert to shouting OATS IS ANTI TOWN GUYS FOR NO FUCKING REASON EVEN THOUGH I CALLED HIM ONE OF THE TOP 3 TOWNIES IN D2.
haha.
Im gonna sleep, will be back in like 20 hours or so.
Expect to see rayn either RB or dead and only 1 nk.



So Vayne is scum and hard bussed his scumbuddy Pandain over voting for kush?


you know that nobody was going to switch their vote and I would get massive town credit so that's not a bad idea. Doesn't matter since I'm not scum anyway. The only reason you can't see that is because you are the SK. I have proven everything you have thrown at me this game to be a lie, until you actually want to start playing the game you are dead to me.

And that brings us back to the fact:
I must be SK if debears is telling the truth. Why would i as SK lynch kush over Pandain?
table for two on a tv tray
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
September 20 2013 16:43 GMT
#3619
On September 21 2013 01:41 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2013 01:33 VayneAuthority wrote:
On September 21 2013 01:17 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 21 2013 01:14 Oatsmaster wrote:
On September 21 2013 01:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 21 2013 01:09 Oatsmaster wrote:
,Im confused at why are you defending yourself by reasons like, " HOW DO I WIN"???
What???

I dont see what convinced you that Im the scum rather than sno or grack or whatever.

Because Snoman is not scum. That leaves only you and Grack, and i think Grack is town.
What makes me SK?

ah ok.
Well, over d1 and d2, at the end, your vote has been on EVERYONE.
Like literally everyone in the game at one point in time.

Also I think everyone else other than You/VA/Pandain is town, and you have mentioned earlier that you bussing BH is stupid. I agree.

So yeah. You SK. The game is over. I like how you revert to shouting OATS IS ANTI TOWN GUYS FOR NO FUCKING REASON EVEN THOUGH I CALLED HIM ONE OF THE TOP 3 TOWNIES IN D2.
haha.
Im gonna sleep, will be back in like 20 hours or so.
Expect to see rayn either RB or dead and only 1 nk.



So Vayne is scum and hard bussed his scumbuddy Pandain over voting for kush?


you know that nobody was going to switch their vote and I would get massive town credit so that's not a bad idea. Doesn't matter since I'm not scum anyway. The only reason you can't see that is because you are the SK. I have proven everything you have thrown at me this game to be a lie, until you actually want to start playing the game you are dead to me.

And that brings us back to the fact:
I must be SK if debears is telling the truth. Why would i as SK lynch kush over Pandain?


Killing pandain confirms you as anti-town, unless there is a framer/miller or whatever in this game but then this setup would be getting pretty bastard tier so I doubt it.

The whole "Why would I kill panadin over kush if im anti-town!1! lolz!1 is purely WIFOM. I expect a better argument then that from you!
I come in for the scraps
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9856 Posts
September 20 2013 16:46 GMT
#3620
On September 21 2013 01:17 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2013 01:14 Oatsmaster wrote:
On September 21 2013 01:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 21 2013 01:09 Oatsmaster wrote:
,Im confused at why are you defending yourself by reasons like, " HOW DO I WIN"???
What???

I dont see what convinced you that Im the scum rather than sno or grack or whatever.

Because Snoman is not scum. That leaves only you and Grack, and i think Grack is town.
What makes me SK?

ah ok.
Well, over d1 and d2, at the end, your vote has been on EVERYONE.
Like literally everyone in the game at one point in time.

Also I think everyone else other than You/VA/Pandain is town, and you have mentioned earlier that you bussing BH is stupid. I agree.

So yeah. You SK. The game is over. I like how you revert to shouting OATS IS ANTI TOWN GUYS FOR NO FUCKING REASON EVEN THOUGH I CALLED HIM ONE OF THE TOP 3 TOWNIES IN D2.
haha.
Im gonna sleep, will be back in like 20 hours or so.
Expect to see rayn either RB or dead and only 1 nk.



So Vayne is scum and hard bussed his scumbuddy Pandain over voting for kush?

This isn't far fetched at all. vayne was already in the thread if he voted Kush he would be obvious scum. He hasn't been hard pushing Pandain he says I am scum and Pandain by connection. So when I flip town he's free to drop suspicion of Pandain.

You aren't thinking about this game reasonably, just throwing out reasons why you can't be SK which don't even prove you aren't SK

Who called out the rhyming scum team at the start of the game? Starting to think that guy was right.
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