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On September 17 2013 08:01 Papa_Smurf wrote:Ok. The day 1 vote tells us quite a bit at this point I believe Show nested quote +On September 14 2013 07:11 ShiaoPi wrote:
Final Day 1 Votecount:
strongandbig(0): Koshi, Papa_Smurf, Koshi, raynpelikoneet, Zealos, blubbdavid, raynpelikoneet
VayneAuthority(0): Papa_Smurf
WaveofShadow(0): kushm4sta
Grackaroni(0): WaveofShadow
kushm4sta(2): Papa_Smurf, Pandain, Old Partner, Papa_Smurf, Zealos
Pandain(0): Grackaroni
Old Partner(4): raynpelikoneet Grackaroni, Oatsmaster, blubbdavid, Umasi, raynpelikoneet, WaveofShadow
Koshi(0): blubbdavid
blubbdavid(5): VayneAuthority, Grackaroni, Sn0_man, Umasi, Papa_Smurf, raynpelikoneet, kushm4sta, Koshi, Pandain
Zealos(4): blubbdavid, strongandbig,Grackaroni, blubbdavid, Pandain, Old Partner
raynpelikoneet(0): strongandbig
blubbdavid has been lynched!
bolded are confirmed/almost confirmed. Colored are slight/likely One thing I would like to note about Pandain's vote. Pandain tried to vote zealos or blubb, essentially to save OP as admitted. But, notice how quickly he voted for OP the next day. First vote. Now, based on BH's actions this last day, the scum very likely planned the bus on BH after the last second vote swap. The best way to go about it from a mafia perspective is to bus, and bus hard. The vote switch to zealos from blobb by Pandain would also make sense in that, if him and OP were on zealos's lynch, and zealos is town, then being grouped on a townie lynch would look really bad as a scumteam. This brings me back to suspicion on Pandain. VA's plopped vote on Blubb all day is looking much more suspicious, along with his recent lack of contributions. OP's vote on zealos almost makes me think Zealos is town.
FU Pandain is town. He was the first counter wagon to BH.
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SNB not SCUM imo
Hey PS/debears, you metasolved scumball, why is your scumbro grack slight town??
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@rayne, thanks rayne, you recent string of misreads is practically handing me game mvp.
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On September 17 2013 08:03 kushm4sta wrote:
SNB not SCUM imo
Hey PS/debears, you metasolved scumball, why is your scumbro grack slight town??
SnB has not done anything on D2 but made himself look better by arguing with BH. Totally scum. Like confirmed scum.
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Also Oats is confirmed town.
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im dying to know why ps thikns grack is slight town, even though his move to zealos saved OP.
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If there is a vigi, shoot Strongandbig, i guarantee you he'll flip scum!
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On September 17 2013 08:06 kushm4sta wrote:
im dying to know why ps thikns grack is slight town, even though his move to zealos saved OP.
The thing is, you have to differentiate between all those votes
Pandain, Grack, and SnB all had questionable voteswitches close to deadline. I think Pandian is the most likely scum switch based on the switch and the instant vote on OP the next day.
VA, you, Koshi and Snow all had votes on a confirmed town to end out the day.
Within those 7 votes is the last 2/3 scum, depending on the whether BH's role pm flavor is actually indicative of the number of scum.
Based on play, Pandain is the most supspicious of the top 3. Grack is the least suspicious out of the top 3.
Based on play, VA is the most suspicious of the bottom 4.
If Pandain is scum, you are the least likely out of the bottom 4. Otherwise, I'd say Koshi is probably the least suspicious right now (despite yesterday's antics but I'll have to rethink this).
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Oh, also debears is town, this game gonna be cool :D
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but debears, i think your analysis if wrong, i'll talk about it tomorrow!
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Please people. I made a case on Mafia Godfather in about my first fucking post in the game. Look at people's responses. Now it time to look back what confirmed townies say and how/what people respond to them!
Fuck yeah, this is awesome!
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On September 17 2013 08:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:
If there is a vigi, shoot Strongandbig, i guarantee you he'll flip scum!
Haha rayn you're cute. I'm
But if you're still serious.
(1) it's very hypocritical for you to push me for not doing anything day 2 when you were the one saying that as long as you were happy with the lynch you were not going to make cases. No one did anything day 2 cause the lynch was essentially pre-determined.
(2) Why would I as scum have pushed hard for a last minute vote switch onto zealos when I could easily have swapped to kush?
(3) compare my play this game to any scum game of mine and tell me they're similar. I dare you to do that and not look like a lunatic.
(4) I explained the pandain/bh thing day 1. Your reasoning was "pandain took stances therefore town" but his stances day 1 were easy stances for scum to take - attacking lurkers and pushing for a kush lynch. Plus his logic for those stances was lacking and didnt demonstrate a town mindset. Since day 1 he's stepped up his posting significantly and good on him, but as of the day one lynch there was very good reason for thinking he was scummier than bh and you are currently being blinded by the fact that you lucked into being right.
I pretty firmly believe you were right on bh because of luck; your reasons for voting him were a policy lynch on his playstyle when there was no way of knowing that he wasn't one of many townies who tend to hurt town with their play styles. But that's not important anymore. What is important is that if you don't step the fuck off my back and start finding and pushing the actual scum, town could easily still lose this.
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No, your D2 posts consist of pushing me (confirmed town) and questioning BH (that's shit).
You are scum. EZPZ!
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@ps so why is grack colored green if he is one of the 3 questionable vote changes...
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I pretty firmly believe you were right on bh because of luck; your reasons for voting him were a policy lynch on his playstyle when there was no way of knowing that he wasn't one of many townies who tend to hurt town with their play styles. But that's not important anymore. What is important is that if you don't step the fuck off my back and start finding and pushing the actual scum, town could easily still lose this.
Also fu with this.
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On September 17 2013 08:41 raynpelikoneet wrote:
No, your D2 posts consist of pushing me (confirmed town) and questioning BH (that's shit).
You are scum. EZPZ!
Answer my four points
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On September 17 2013 08:43 strongandbig wrote:Show nested quote +On September 17 2013 08:41 raynpelikoneet wrote:
No, your D2 posts consist of pushing me (confirmed town) and questioning BH (that's shit).
You are scum. EZPZ! Answer my four points
I do not need to answer you anything.
You start finding scum and let go of a confirmed town if you are town.
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On September 17 2013 08:41 raynpelikoneet wrote:
No, your D2 posts consist of pushing me (confirmed town) and questioning BH (that's shit).
You are scum. EZPZ!
Rayne this is terrible thinking.
Why wouldn't kush oats and koshi be scum on me then for actually trying to start a wagon on me over BH then d2?
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On September 17 2013 08:35 strongandbig wrote:Show nested quote +On September 17 2013 08:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:
If there is a vigi, shoot Strongandbig, i guarantee you he'll flip scum! Haha rayn you're cute. I'm But if you're still serious. (1) it's very hypocritical for you to push me for not doing anything day 2 when you were the one saying that as long as you were happy with the lynch you were not going to make cases. No one did anything day 2 cause the lynch was essentially pre-determined. (2) Why would I as scum have pushed hard for a last minute vote switch onto zealos when I could easily have swapped to kush? (3) compare my play this game to any scum game of mine and tell me they're similar. I dare you to do that and not look like a lunatic. (4) I explained the pandain/bh thing day 1. Your reasoning was "pandain took stances therefore town" but his stances day 1 were easy stances for scum to take - attacking lurkers and pushing for a kush lynch. Plus his logic for those stances was lacking and didnt demonstrate a town mindset. Since day 1 he's stepped up his posting significantly and good on him, but as of the day one lynch there was very good reason for thinking he was scummier than bh and you are currently being blinded by the fact that you lucked into being right. I pretty firmly believe you were right on bh because of luck; your reasons for voting him were a policy lynch on his playstyle when there was no way of knowing that he wasn't one of many townies who tend to hurt town with their play styles. But that's not important anymore. What is important is that if you don't step the fuck off my back and start finding and pushing the actual scum, town could easily still lose this.
Okay, i'll still answer:
1) Simply wrong. There were people who were trying to figure out stuff. Me, Koshi, debears, kush, Oats come to mind.
2) Because voting ofr kush and him flipping town would look awful. There were townies already on blubbers, a lot of townies assume kush is town. I dunno, maybe kush is scum, who the fuck knows. Suddenly he looks a lot worse for his push on debears D2.
3) Yeah you are authentic. Just like in Sicilian. No i don't really know your meta, but you have not done shit this game.
4) No, my reasoning was something else. You are wrong.
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On September 17 2013 08:54 Papa_Smurf wrote:Show nested quote +On September 17 2013 08:41 raynpelikoneet wrote:
No, your D2 posts consist of pushing me (confirmed town) and questioning BH (that's shit).
You are scum. EZPZ! Rayne this is terrible thinking. Why wouldn't kush oats and koshi be scum on me then for actually trying to start a wagon on me over BH then d2?
I dunno about kush, Oats was a main pusher of BH on D1 besides me. Koshi is town.
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