EPTHow many scum do you think we have amongst the actives?
I just have a gut feeling there is at least one. I really think 2 is the true answer doh
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How many scum do you think we have amongst the actives? I just have a gut feeling there is at least one. I really think 2 is the true answer doh | ||
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Then im at 75% on the third one. Posting the cases right before deadline | ||
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And prepare for a long post | ||
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 (I feel like I have quite a good read on the thread). Here tis my role PM.I am the third party. I have no KP. All i have is the veteran passive and killing myself to balance out the water level. I was shot and roleblocked night one. That was the 100% truth. You are Shabouh, High Priest of Ahura Madhzo the River God! Your god demands the waters to flow, neither a dry riverbed or a vast lake will please him. Balance is the essence of Water, after all. So you've taken it onto yourself to shape the lands to His will. Your faith works as your shield, so you are able to survive 1 KP once in the game. As a bystander to the petty squabble for undesireable extremes, your death does not move the water level in any way, neither if you die during the night nor if you get lynched. Additionally, if you feel the situation tipping too far towards one side, you will be able to perform Ahura Madhzo's most sacred ritual, Blood Sacrifice: Flood/Drought. Performing it will deal 1 KP of damage to yourself (can be survived if BP is up) to change the point total by 100 in the opposing direction.You can only do this if the point total is below 250 or above 750, and only once in the game. When I said earlier about having a 95% read on two scum and 75% on the third, I lied purposely to try to get scum to target me for the nk, seeing as my death will not affect the water level, and the fact that I am killing myself anyways to help town out. I, do, however think my reads on Marv and Raynp are legit, and I think at least one of them is scum. I'm not gonna bother mentioning who would be the third. For my plan to town to get an easier scum city lynch, I suggest a mass blue claim after night. It will clear up alot of the questions I have about Raynp. Alright. So, for my reads, I am going to concentrate on the two active players that I believe could be scum: Marv and Raynp. Raynp - He claimed vet, which is possible at this point. However, a town vig did not claim. I did not have any KP. So mafia would have to have a mafia vig at that point. That would seem like kinda much to me, considering my role pretty much relies on my sacrificing myself at one point (games don't usually stay balanced all the way through). So, a mafia vig just to kill a vet would be veryyyy strange. Also, the odds of them actually hitting the two people with veteran passive is unlikely on night 1. Just sayin' Another thing that alarms me about Raynp is how vocally opposed he has been to both mislynches. He has literally shouted at the thread with no doubt about how FT and Oats would be mislynches. I don't see any townie having that much confidence in a town read on those two. There really wasn't (and never really is) much separating oats' town play from his mafia play. Also, Raynp's analytical skills (or experience with oats) have not shown me that he is capable of reading a very hard to read player that well. The only way I see Raynp being so confident on those reads is that he is mafia and he knows they are town, and he is trying to boost town cred off the lynches. Just go look back around lynch time. It is sooo strange he is that sure. One more thing. I am 95% sure that every blue role in this game has some sort of influence of the water level. Raynp claimed his didn't. Seeing as Oats and I both have ways of affecting the water level, I find Raynp's claim much harder to believe. Marv - Apparently marv has undergone some kind of meta overhaul with being more indecisive and wishywashy. I wouldn't know. Last time I played with him he was much more aggressive than he has been this game. It could be the reason why I feel like he's scum. In any case, I'll let you guys decide whether that's the case. I used Hapa's GSL III since it would do most of the work for me. It was a really good analysis and you all should read the whole thing anyways just to see how good players do shit http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=376602¤tpage=37#724 Marv's Lack of Suspicion First let's take a look a town marv. Town marv is a very naturally suspicious person - he's someone who jumps on people for bad logic, and his natural inclination is to see scummy behavior in said bad logic + Show Spoiler + What I'd like to input on this is how marv is not "naturally suspicious" this game. Usually, I see Marv throw votes around and put pressure on relatively anyone, especially scumreads. What has Marv done on both days this game? Vote minimally without pressuring his votes. His first vote of the game On August 30 2013 08:59 marvellosity wrote: fuck it, until you can explain to me why you're lying to make me look bad, ##vote: yamato In the same minute. On August 30 2013 09:00 marvellosity wrote: fine i need to stop this, this is so dumb. ##unvote While that one is understandable in why he did it, it's still not like Marv, especially looking at his other d1 votes. On August 31 2013 06:51 marvellosity wrote: Syl has been sad a lot, I noticed that too. really... weird. ##Vote: Alakaslam I'm choosing between him and Firm. Firm has just been *SO* shit that maybe he's not the best lynch. Hopeless and Alakslam both posted a reasonable amount, in hopeless' case terribly, and in alakaslam's case pointlessly. I think that tips the balance for me. This was Marv's second vote of the day. The only thing he did with it was add reasoning to why since the day was getting late.. He didn't get up in Hopeless/Slams face with an early vote like I see town Marv do. On August 31 2013 07:31 marvellosity wrote: ##unvote ##vote: firmtofu slam is here and that sounded kinda genuine, if terrible :/ His third and final vote. Yet again, Marv has not used his vote to pressure anyone in the game and be the aggressive town marv we all know and love. I would go into the second day, but it's the same process. Just go look for yourself. That's 5 town reads in a game of 9 players - completely opposite of town marv. This is not "naturally-suspicious" marv - this is a completely different character. Let's see what marv has said about his reads this game + Show Spoiler + On September 01 2013 07:01 marvellosity wrote: i have too much green in my list, probably at least one person i'm town on isn't Sure, it is only one post, but when has he really had a zoned in scumread all game? When has he been aggressive in finding a scumread? When has he jumped on suspicious activity early in order to find out about the person? His attitude this game has not been "scumhunter extraodinaire" as I have seen him. It has been so laid back. In terms of town reads: MTV sCRIBS Happa Flappa Flame Koopatroopa/Thrawn Slight town: Oneguru Yamato Tomato Null: sylence, I kill you Scummy with a side of meatballs: sn0wblower Marvelous Why does it always Rayn on me Slamdunk Thank you all. Twas a pleasure playing with half of you (by my estimate). The inactive half need to not sign up for two games or actually play. It was very upsetting how hard it is to read you lurking jerks. Hopefully, my reads art so awesome that this video will reflect my game :D | ||
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#Vote Raynp NO way there a vet in this | ||
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On September 04 2013 08:01 Hapahauli wrote: Soooo... why isn't yamato dead? I'm guessing scribs got rb | ||
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Raynp declared scum. GG. Vote him Hapa | ||
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On September 04 2013 08:13 raynpelikoneet wrote: You can't possibly have docced yamato as you climed doc on debears and yamato did not die. Explain. Scrib must have gotten rbed. Duh | ||
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On September 04 2013 07:58 Hapahauli wrote: Since we're approaching LYLO, claiming seems like the best option. A mass-claim is probably a good idea right now. I'm the Conditional Doctor. I can only use my power when the "water level" is over 750, and a successful save reduces the water level by 50. No breadcrumbs, nor do I ever use them as town. Saving debears, and hopefully a successful save and a drop in water-level will vindicate my claim to those suspicious of me. Wish me luck! What happened to the 50 water level drop? Is that only for saves from mafia kp? | ||
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