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debears
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2516 Posts
August 31 2013 23:39 GMT
#1398
On September 01 2013 08:38 marvellosity wrote:
I'm LALing any future games.


At least this game just got a whole lot more interesting and fun for me :D
debears
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2516 Posts
August 31 2013 23:40 GMT
#1399
On September 01 2013 08:38 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I give you fucking 3min to explain why there is a vig or SK in this game debears.
After that, you die.


Can
You
Read?

Or are you just caught in such a small corner you are retaliating with dumb scumness?
debears
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2516 Posts
August 31 2013 23:44 GMT
#1401
On September 01 2013 08:40 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2013 08:39 debears wrote:
On September 01 2013 08:38 marvellosity wrote:
I'm LALing any future games.


At least this game just got a whole lot more interesting and fun for me :D


yeah, i wanted to go to bed half an hour ago :/

might have to leave thinking about this until tomorrow tbh


It's fine. No ones on anyhow. Would be way more epic with everyone here.

Can i get a popcorn observers?
debears
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2516 Posts
September 01 2013 02:31 GMT
#1417
Hapa,does raynp ever breadcrumb any of his true claims?
debears
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2516 Posts
September 01 2013 18:00 GMT
#1468
On September 01 2013 15:12 sciberbia wrote:
Few more questions for you Oats.


This bothers me everytime I read your filter. I just don't understand the town motivation behind peppering one of your townreads (rayn) with questions and criticisms and asking marv if he wants to lynch said townread.
+ Show Spoiler [Oats] +

On August 29 2013 21:35 Oatsmaster wrote:
Thats a horrible way to find a day 1 lynch Rayn.

Marv wanna lynch Rayn?

On August 29 2013 22:52 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2013 22:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Oats can you make a case on me if you think i am scum? I would really like your thought process gathered together in a well-construced post.

nah.

On August 29 2013 23:04 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2013 22:54 marvellosity wrote:
On August 29 2013 22:52 Oatsmaster wrote:
On August 29 2013 22:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Oats can you make a case on me if you think i am scum? I would really like your thought process gathered together in a well-construced post.

nah.


By "nah" do you mean "i can't really think of a good reason he's scum, but i thought i'd say shit for no reason anyway" ?

shit like I think PoE is a horrible method for lynch day 1?

By "nah" I mean, I dont think rayn is scum.

On August 29 2013 23:32 Oatsmaster wrote:
hey rayn, why did you vote for sno? I still dont get it.




Can you explain in more detail how TK went from strong scum read to strong town read over the course of 24 hours? Since your return to the thread yesterday, you have acted as though TK is hella town, but I really don't see why you would think that, especially considering you had a strong scumread on him at the start of the game.

+ Show Spoiler [TK is scum] +

On August 29 2013 18:38 Oatsmaster wrote:
Why is tutonkeonddude town marv? He sheeped some dudes policy vote and asked 'what policy'. Shows that he gives no fucks about who he wants to die.

On August 29 2013 18:48 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2013 18:44 marvellosity wrote:
On August 29 2013 18:43 Oatsmaster wrote:
On August 29 2013 18:42 marvellosity wrote:
He sounds like I often sound on day 1, especially at the beginning

anyway i'm not gonna defend the dude for him, but i'm not really interested in talking about him either

DID YOU EVEN READ HIS FILTER????


what the fuck is wrong with you?

He doesnt sound like you sound unless you sound like totally uncommital, talking about useless shit and posting the most wishy washy post ever and generally playing like super scum.
Im am completely confused at your insistence that he is totally town.

On August 29 2013 19:01 Oatsmaster wrote:
I exaggerate a ton man, do you not know that?
Yeah tuntokon doesnt seem bad at mafia, so why is he doing all these bad things?
Thats kinda why I think he's scum.

Marv, tell me whos scum man.



+ Show Spoiler [TK is the towniest thing under the sun] +

On August 30 2013 22:35 Oatsmaster wrote:
So if I can prove that Tutan is town, is hopeless still town rayn?

On August 31 2013 06:04 Oatsmaster wrote:
Rayn im not killing TK unless redcheck and I need to think REALLY hard for that one.

On August 31 2013 06:08 Oatsmaster wrote:
Rayn, you are too tunneled to be useful at this point. Every read is influenced by your TK read.

On August 31 2013 20:03 Oatsmaster wrote:
Let's look at how I reentered the thread. I dropped tutan and voted for Hopeless. Would you rather I continue tunneling obv town?



Like I just find this really fishy and don't know what you could have possibly seen from TK to make you backflip so hard. I think you were just being lazy scum and remembered marv 'insisting he was totally town' from earlier in the day, and decided to say you changed your mind and that marv was right.

And while I'm on the subject, wtf is the point of saying this
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2013 13:52 Oatsmaster wrote:
hey tutan is rayn scum for tunneling you like shit?


if tutan is obv town to you and rayn is also obv town from your POV (unless you think he fakeclaimed mason as scum to stop you from getting mislynched). I just see no town motivation at all for asking such a question to one of your strongest town reads about one of your other strongest town reads.


Finally, you said this
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2013 09:26 Oatsmaster wrote:
How the fuck did I get almost lynched....
come on guys..


I don't understand why you're so surprised. What do you feel you have done this game that makes you so clearly town or a bad lynch option? What have you done or said this game that you would not have done if you were scum?


I am debears and I approve this message
debears
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2516 Posts
September 01 2013 18:21 GMT
#1470
On September 01 2013 22:57 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Why is there no Hapa in your reads yamato?

Also one thing that especially bothers me is why would debears be shot over Hapa/marv in case even one of them is town? Him being shot AND roleblocked by mafia makes sense how? Who would doc debears over marv/Hapa on N1?

##Unvote:

Like, i think there is a possibility of 2 vets in the game. But what does this mean?


I ask myself the same question. And the same question would apply to you.

There are 4 explanations:
1) One or both of marv and hapa are scum
2) WIFOM
3) Scum was worried about a medic protecting marv and hapa (if they be town)
4) Scum really scared of me (you also if you were town)

In any situation, the nk attempt on me tells me nothing.

@Scribs

I'm gonna put you as my strongest town read with the way your posts have been going since I got off.

I'm liking your Oats stuff. I will definitely join the cause. I still have questions on the Rayn thing though I need your perspective on.

1) What do you think of his claim without a breadcrumb?
2) What do you think of his vet claim after the already occuring mason claim lie?
debears
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2516 Posts
September 01 2013 19:11 GMT
#1472
On September 02 2013 03:36 raynpelikoneet wrote:
For the record. I never breadcrumb. Ever. I think it's useless.


Can someone in this game backup that claim?
debears
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2516 Posts
September 01 2013 20:54 GMT
#1485
On September 02 2013 05:42 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2013 05:41 marvellosity wrote:
On September 02 2013 05:36 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Ehh.. why can't mafia "breadcrumb" some role and assuming a certain situation happens (like a no-kill in a game where doctor and their target is not informed of a save) claim "yeah dudes, look, i crumbed my role vet i am totes town, now you gotta believe me"??

It's not that hard, and i put zero value in breadcrumbs.


Mainly because mafia have to waste a shot to claim vet. See Persona obsQT for relevant discussion

They do not have to waste a shot. If they happen to shoot the person a doctor is protecting, then they can claim vet.


But then do people who are protected also get hit notifications?

It is not defined in the op who gets hit notificiations. So, as mafia, you would run the risk of the townsperson you shoot of claiming being shot, a doc knowing they protected correctly, and having two people on your ass?
debears
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2516 Posts
September 01 2013 20:56 GMT
#1487
##Unvote
##Vote Oatsmaster

Scribs is my senseful other half this game now
debears
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2516 Posts
September 01 2013 21:06 GMT
#1492
On September 02 2013 05:58 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2013 05:56 debears wrote:
##Unvote
##Vote Oatsmaster

Scribs is my senseful other half this game now


dibbers, how often have you played with Oats?

Why is Slam townie to you?


I think a couple games.

When did I say slam was townie?
debears
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2516 Posts
September 01 2013 21:11 GMT
#1497
On September 02 2013 06:06 sciberbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2013 05:54 debears wrote:
On September 02 2013 05:42 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 02 2013 05:41 marvellosity wrote:
On September 02 2013 05:36 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Ehh.. why can't mafia "breadcrumb" some role and assuming a certain situation happens (like a no-kill in a game where doctor and their target is not informed of a save) claim "yeah dudes, look, i crumbed my role vet i am totes town, now you gotta believe me"??

It's not that hard, and i put zero value in breadcrumbs.


Mainly because mafia have to waste a shot to claim vet. See Persona obsQT for relevant discussion

They do not have to waste a shot. If they happen to shoot the person a doctor is protecting, then they can claim vet.


But then do people who are protected also get hit notifications?

It is not defined in the op who gets hit notificiations. So, as mafia, you would run the risk of the townsperson you shoot of claiming being shot, a doc knowing they protected correctly, and having two people on your ass?

As a point of clarification, the OP states that only passively protected roles receive a notification. So a townie could be saved by a doc and not be any the wiser.

Also to re-iterate hapa's question from earlier, out of curiosity, were either of your roles dependent on the water level in some way?

@marv
Do you agree or disagree with what hapa just wrote about Oats and why? Judging from your earlier post you seem to disagree?


Nah no change on mine. Where does the op say the hit notification stuff. Couldn't find it -_-
debears
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2516 Posts
September 01 2013 21:17 GMT
#1501
God I am blind .....
debears
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2516 Posts
September 01 2013 21:21 GMT
#1503
On September 02 2013 06:08 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2013 06:06 debears wrote:
On September 02 2013 05:58 marvellosity wrote:
On September 02 2013 05:56 debears wrote:
##Unvote
##Vote Oatsmaster

Scribs is my senseful other half this game now


dibbers, how often have you played with Oats?

Why is Slam townie to you?


I think a couple games.

When did I say slam was townie?


More the lack of attention you've given him today I guess.

I asked about Oats, kinda because of what Hapa alluded to just up there. Because the thing is, scib's case is good, traditionally good, but it's Oats. If you don't know what I mean by that it's hard to explain :/


I haven't given slam attention because there is nothing new to say on him (Same with all the other dudes who haven't posted shit). Same shit different day. His posting seems similar to other games (just one game that I can't talk about tbh). So, really, only can judge him on hopeless's posting.

Is he scummier to me than oats (or raynp earlier)? No.
debears
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2516 Posts
September 01 2013 21:56 GMT
#1506
On September 02 2013 06:25 marvellosity wrote:
The problem for me is that slam DOES post, and it's always a nothing post. And those damn repeated VT claims. Do you not find it exceedingly odd how he keeps repeating it?

Probably the biggest difference between them is i have playing experience with oats, not with slam :/


This is exactly why I was reallllyyyyyyyy hoping that there would be a vig
debears
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2516 Posts
September 02 2013 07:53 GMT
#1557
Ah Scribs you are my little gentleman.

Who don't we agree on with reads so far?

Like what do you think of Marv? Town, Scum, Null?

Maybe we will actually disagree there
debears
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2516 Posts
September 02 2013 08:02 GMT
#1558
Also, seeing as I've been drinking a little, I would like to say something to scum if they did indeed rb and shoot me.

THe fuck is wrong with you guys? I haven't play this shit in 3 months (i think). Especially if, in some odd circumstance, marv and hapa are town. If marv and hapa are scum, guess I'd understand (shit only game I was nked night 1 before this was when marv was scum and I caught the scum city resident Adam)

Then, if somehow Ranyp be town too, why in the fuck would you target both of us. ]

I DECLARE SHENANIGANS ON SCUM

I just have this lingering feeling we have some town 2 shot vig that shot me. How sad I would be to know my play be that bad .

Anyways, with the thread wavering on Oats, Slamming Sammy, and such, I see new reason to keep scuba diving in Marv's filter.

Under the sea, under the sea
debears
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2516 Posts
September 02 2013 14:10 GMT
#1588
@Scribs

When did you find my breadcrumb?
debears
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2516 Posts
September 02 2013 16:08 GMT
#1630
On September 03 2013 01:03 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 03 2013 01:00 yamato77 wrote:
Plus, only you or Hapa would be good enough scum to shoot + roleblock debears.

Come on.


And yet bad enough to miss his crumb that had an underline and a double e in the same sentence?


The double e was just a fail at typing.........lol
debears
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2516 Posts
September 02 2013 23:22 GMT
#1764
I agree eith modkilling slam. At this point, we wont grta a good read on anothrr replacement. Its too late in the game.

I will post the two main scummers I see before i get killed tonight.. The third one ill just have to let you all find.
debears
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2516 Posts
September 03 2013 03:03 GMT
#1790
Oh twas thrawn

<3

Considering the water level is at 900, one more mislynch will set scum over the top (if we even get to that point).

We should consider having all the blues claim to help give a boost in that scenario after the night.
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