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On August 30 2013 08:44 yamato77 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 30 2013 08:35 Hapahauli wrote:On August 30 2013 08:31 yamato77 wrote:On August 30 2013 08:29 marvellosity wrote:
Hapa has seemed fine to me, the only thing I noticed so far is that he's seemed somewhat more snippy than usual, which is why I asked him about how he felt about the game. Not entirely sure what I make of it but meh
Bugs me that yamato is suspicious of Hapa for being able to read me better than yamato can. It's just dumb on so many levels Are you even reading my posts? That's basically half the reason you're suspicious of me no? You know I've played a ton of games with marv. While I can articulate my methods of reading him in one way or another, the bottom-line is that a majority of me reading marv is completely on gut. There are just certain posts by him that I get strong town/scum vibes from, mostly because we have such a history together. In this game, there's just something about the way he's responding to the pressure here that makes me feel he's town. So back to the "holier than thou" thing with scum-marv, he tends to put himself above all the arguments, and either use it as an OMGUS or completely dismiss them at hand. In this game, he's getting emotionally caught up in them, which I consider a town-tell. Is he really, though? It seems like he wants to use these back-and-forth exchanges more as an avenue to shit on my play and my reads than to actually get anything useful out of it. If I am right about him, there is plenty of motivation for scum-Marv to want to discredit me when town-Marv is usually more cooperative even when I am tunneling him, in the recent past. Why the change this game in his response, and his overall attitude as compared to his recent play?
As yamato is ignoring me, I'm just gonna point this out to the thread. Unless my memory serves me incorrectly, the last time yamato tunnelled me was 6 months ago in an abortion of a game. So he's painting my reactions as scummy when compared to basically totally fictitious recent games that don't exist.
me no gusta.
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fuck it, until you can explain to me why you're lying to make me look bad,
##vote: yamato
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"calling scum once" is not "tunnelling"
why are you making things up??
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fine i need to stop this, this is so dumb.
##unvote
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If any of you read/played Sicilian, you may realise why I'm slightly salty when I'm accused with bullshittery (even more than normal  ). I'm done though (mainly as I have a joint to smoke).
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Funny how that works buddy.
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Hi. I'm pretty sad to wake up to no new Oats posts. It's getting into evening for his timezone by now.
Onegu, I don't understand this FT lynch in the slightest. You think the whole rest of the town has played sufficiently townie to punt the lynch on someone who's literally done nothing?
I love me some lurker-lynching, but only when I have a little something to put my hat on
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Not unless you plan on seriously pushing his lynch and garnering support for it, no. I don't really see the point
You really think his contributions don't look natural/sincere?
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On August 30 2013 19:03 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On August 30 2013 18:58 marvellosity wrote:
Not unless you plan on seriously pushing his lynch and garnering support for it, no. I don't really see the point
You really think his contributions don't look natural/sincere? No it's easy to look natural and sincere in case you know anything about how to play as mafia. It's also easy to accuse Hopeless at this point because he is being dumb. My problem with Tutankoopa is that there is nothing that suggests that he is here to find mafia. It's more that he is here to chat with people and give some half-arsed opinions & answers when being questioned. He already clarified he is a smurf, and you draw from that he would not play "this good" as scum?
I disagree completely with the bolded. On Day 1 especially it's how I go about getting most of my townreads (and meta).
There's approximately a 0.1% chance I'll lynch him today, if you come up with some mindbendingly good case.
I'd lynch Oats way before i'd lynch Tuten today, for one
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There's not an example to give? You're just saying something with no basis
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that's him being a retard with his role, which is a completely different matter.
When Oats is mafia I just see him digging at people constantly and not providing any interesting analysis.
As town he's consistently more active and perceptive
Like most of the last page of his filter is attacking you for PoE, and what?
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On August 30 2013 19:18 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Also on Hopeless. marv, don't you think it's alarming that everyone in the game wants to lynch him besides me? Unless he is mafia with Oats/Onegu/FT this makes zero sense. I do think Oats is town, i do think Onegu is town. It makes no sense to me.
This had crossed my mind, but I didn't know where to go with it.
If all these people are town, throw me 3 mafia for funsies?
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On August 30 2013 19:22 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On August 30 2013 19:20 marvellosity wrote:
that's him being a retard with his role, which is a completely different matter.
When Oats is mafia I just see him digging at people constantly and not providing any interesting analysis.
As town he's consistently more active and perceptive
Like most of the last page of his filter is attacking you for PoE, and what? Can you give me an example (town/scum) that supports your argument? As town he attack people for stupid stuff, especially me.
you hydrad with him and your slot was caught for constantly bitching and not moving anything forward
he was caught in Ego for his activity dropping off and not actually providing analysis, and only bitching at people
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We can argue about meta all day but it's pointless. You're using some meta towntell that I don't see any reason to agree with. He *was* caught in Ego because his activity dropped, in conjunction with his activity dropping, so meh.
Coming from someone who loves himself a bit of meta, I think you're way overusing meta this game. Like asking people to go read through 2 whole games of FT's when FT basically hasn't posted here this game. It's really pointless.
You're trying to excuse Oats using a meta-towntell that's arguable at best, and the meta-towntell that you're using is actually a mafia-oriented point. It's icky.
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*in conjunction with wanting to wait for DP/iamp, oops
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On August 30 2013 19:46 Sylencia wrote:Show nested quote +On August 30 2013 17:22 Tutankoopa wrote:
Syl I think there are things more deserving of your attention than what you chose to post about. What are your thoughts regarding thread sentiment, and has anything stuck out at you from any of the major discussions? In regards to the players whom I've played with before, nothing really sticks out as being out of the ordinary from when they've been town. The only thing I'm concerned about going into D1 lynch is that we've spread ourselves thin on lynch targets for the day. It's fine that we're suspecting each other but if everyone suspects someone else then we're not going to be able to coordinate a proper lynch and scum can manipulate us rather easily. I doubt this would ever pass but considering we have 5 people with votes on them at the moment - would it be wrong to suggest that we stick to the 5 listed and consolidate on them instead? Note: This doesn't mean that we completely ignore the rest of the town, but considering there's only about 12 hours left in the day, those cases can be put forward N1 onwards. This will also help us prevent unwanted last minute bandwagons on someone completely irrelevant and we remain focused on the main suspects. Pretty sure I went off topic there, but it's something I was considering before. Show nested quote +On August 30 2013 18:41 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I am far interested in Sylencia's last post than Onegu. What are you interested in?
eh, I'd been thinking the opposite, I was worried we were drifting toward a hopeless/sylencia dichotomy too soon
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There are no lies, you're just being bad. Go read his filter and break it down into activity by cycle.
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EBWOP: er........ it may be something I picked up on obsing while I was dead if it wasn't in the thread. But it's definitely what happened :p
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Oats himself will tell you that the activity/involvedness thing over time is true.
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