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On September 12 2013 20:01 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I don't think he would go on with it in the first place. If he would he would be more willing to explain what he thinks and why instead of just calling me bad first, calling me bad after that, and then suddenly say "you are town so stfu". That's something mafia!Oats does not do, he does not go on calling people who "he does not think are scum" bad for "bad logic". I mean, the thing went on too long for Oats to be scum.
I'm worried now you've explained this he may start incorporating this into his mafia play.
Oats is kinda tricksy like that :p
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yeah I can read him that late, it's more early i'm worried about ;;
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Or you could just try playing properly, that would help
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On September 12 2013 20:42 FirmTofu wrote:Show nested quote +On September 12 2013 20:38 marvellosity wrote:
Or you could just try playing properly, that would help Define "properly". Attacking people for not posting? Defending myself from people saying I'm not talking enough? I find it all utterly pointless. I don't enjoy repeating the same Day 1 arguments game after game and being accused of being scum for my opinions that are completely non-alignment indicative.
your few posts that you made were pretty laughable.
when you get lynched as town, you can either shout at half the town for lynching you, or realise that you made yourself exceedingly lynchable by how you played
up to you
i always find a good question to ask about playstyle is "if everyone played in a similar style to me, what would happen?" - in this case if the entire town lurked and said shit, then the game would break and nothing would work. Whereas most people will try and produce content, and that's what any town needs to function.
You're basically arguing that you should be a special case because you don't like day 1s.
No.
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Towns will lynch players like you on d1 for all eternity.
Which is why it's a townie's responsibility to not play badly.
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Then why are you arguing you were a bad lynch?
I mean obviously you weren't a great lynch because you were town, but as Day 1s go it was a pretty standard lynch. Lynch some useless dude saying weird things, maybe he'll flip mafia, maybe he won't.
In so many games recently people keep saying "this d1 lynch was terrible" when really they're quite normal to go down like this.
A terrible day 1 lynch is when you lynch someone who you can think about and say they had some clear towntells
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On September 12 2013 21:32 Dandel Ion wrote:
I PM'd him after his dead-posts and told him to stfu.
And if I say I'll replace/modkill him, I'll replace/modkill him.
Have you heard me say anything different? No.
Until you do, you should play under the assumption that he's gone.
You didn't listen to what I explicitly said, your fault. You plan your all-in on a dead guy, your fault.
We were setting up slam/sn0 long before slam decided not to vote on day 2, to be fair.
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On September 12 2013 21:39 Dandel Ion wrote:
That's fine, but continuing to set him up after he failed to vote was a poor decision, and I just want to emphasise that it was your guys' fuck up, not mine.
Generally speaking (and you obviously have a different philosophy, not gonna comment on right/wrong) I think modkills should be an absolute last resort, especially when it directly affects the gameplay. Given Slam was ready to carry on posting, I think letting him carry on was the best decision for not affecting the game.
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Him proceeding to get himself banned from TL notwithstanding ;p
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On September 12 2013 21:53 yamato77 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 12 2013 21:51 Clarity_nl wrote:
I was actually very curious about the "I'm just looking at hapa and marv today" approach.
People jumped on it as terrible straight away but I thought it had some merit to it. Of course it did. If I accurately figure out those two every game, it's likely that we win the game.
It is kinda weird. Because on TL I invariably tend to lynch lurkers who I think are scummy on day 1, sometimes with success, sometimes not.
Over on OMGUS where the player pool is smaller, the strongest players have (to me at least) clear tells in their meta. So when I play there and I'm town, I basically spend my time on Day 1 trying to figure out the alignments of the 2-3 strong players in the game.
The problem with lynching me on day 1 in general is that people tend to find me more suspicious when I'm town, so the numbers don't add up.
Especially lately when I'm lazy/busy, waiting for me to slack off and/or not try to solve the game is when you're gonna get your real tells on me.
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On September 12 2013 22:01 yamato77 wrote:
It should have been telling to me that Marv chose to argue that I was wrong about Hapa more than that I was wrong about him, lol.
no, that shouldn't be telling.
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On September 12 2013 22:35 iamperfection wrote:
I'm disappointed. You guys had a very good chance to give marv another scum loss and you failed.
You just want there to be one other person who's played mafia with me and lost, don't you?
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I already talked to rayn in PMs about his claims, nothing much else to say about it here.
From a gameplay perspective, I chose to shoot debears on night 1 simply because he was mostly on the right track. I could feel his paranoia of me, and he was suspicious of Sylencia and Onegu (iirc).
It was a rather large mistake of mine to miss his crumb, wasn't paying enough attention.
On day 2, the main task (from my POV) was to bury thrawn's pretty good case on Onegu. Fortunately town was chaotic enough and Onegu played decently enough that the case just kinda went away somehow.
Shot sciberbia night 2 because although he was mostly on the wrong track, he was looking very townie. Hapa was under quite a bit of pressure as well, and wasn't suspicious of me, so it was good to leave him alive. Funnily enough, the fact I roleblocked sciberbia and stopped him shooting a townie (yamato) ended up being a significant benefit to mafia.
Personally, the game was already tiring me out through day 2, but I was ready to do one last big effort on day 3 to secure one of slam/sn0. When Slam got modkilled, everything changed, and I just couldn't summon up the energy to make another big effort, so I just gave up basically.
Probably my next towngames will have quite a bit less posting than what I did here as mafia for the first cycle or two :/
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yeah the water stuff was kinda fun really.
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stop bumping my mafia victories guise
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