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On August 29 2013 20:48 marvellosity wrote:
yamato seems ok. Dumb is usually ok from yamato
There is one thing i do not get about yamato. His policy at the start of the game was clearly "do not shit the thread rayn". After that, when i ask him stuff he gives answers that are not really answers -> he should know that might make me go crazy. What's the point of not wanting me to shit the thread and then feeding my craziness?
On the other hand, if yamato is scum i feel really bad for him because he would be scum in 4 games in a row. So i propose we let yamato survive the game, so he feels better either way. :D j/k.
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I misread yamato at the start of Sicilian and I'm not doing that shit again
If his thread-relevance to the thread drops off, I'm gonna be all over him like a rash.
You have a point with how he's acted with regards to you, I don't think it's particularly alignment indicative though
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"thread-relevance to the thread"
awesome.
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On August 29 2013 20:51 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On August 29 2013 20:49 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 29 2013 20:47 marvellosity wrote:On August 29 2013 20:45 raynpelikoneet wrote:
marv what would you say Oats' alignment is atm? I dunno. I don't like how he's gone about / explained some of this Tuten stuff, but it's way easy to fall into the trap of Oats of contradictory stuff being scummy, when he just does it all the time. Him being in the thread and consistently arguing over it is somewhat of a towntell I think. TBD I am pretty sure Oats is town. He is clearly not paying attention closely, that's why he forgets stuff. Given the players in this game (unless like you and Hapa are scum with him) i would expect him to be far more calreful with what he posts if he was mafia. Also him attacking you and Hapa (the strongest players) and not letting go of his arguments when "proven wrong" (or rather when pointed out the holes in his logic) is a strong towntell imo. I used to think this, but some game a while ago proved that wrong. Can't remember which though :/ Maybe you have a better metaread on him than I do, the way I usually try to tell is how involved he manages to stay. Pretty sure he can consistently push bad ideas as mafia too.
Yeah i am not sure about Oats. I mean not convinced to say "Oats is town".
There is a difference of him pushing targets as mafia or as town. I am pretty sure i can notice which this is when the game goes on. Anyways i think he is likely to be town atm.
I assume you think Hapa is town? How easy is it for you to tell if he is town or not?
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On August 29 2013 20:56 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On August 29 2013 20:51 marvellosity wrote:On August 29 2013 20:49 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 29 2013 20:47 marvellosity wrote:On August 29 2013 20:45 raynpelikoneet wrote:
marv what would you say Oats' alignment is atm? I dunno. I don't like how he's gone about / explained some of this Tuten stuff, but it's way easy to fall into the trap of Oats of contradictory stuff being scummy, when he just does it all the time. Him being in the thread and consistently arguing over it is somewhat of a towntell I think. TBD I am pretty sure Oats is town. He is clearly not paying attention closely, that's why he forgets stuff. Given the players in this game (unless like you and Hapa are scum with him) i would expect him to be far more calreful with what he posts if he was mafia. Also him attacking you and Hapa (the strongest players) and not letting go of his arguments when "proven wrong" (or rather when pointed out the holes in his logic) is a strong towntell imo. I used to think this, but some game a while ago proved that wrong. Can't remember which though :/ Maybe you have a better metaread on him than I do, the way I usually try to tell is how involved he manages to stay. Pretty sure he can consistently push bad ideas as mafia too. Yeah i am not sure about Oats. I mean not convinced to say "Oats is town". There is a difference of him pushing targets as mafia or as town. I am pretty sure i can notice which this is when the game goes on. Anyways i think he is likely to be town atm. I assume you think Hapa is town? How easy is it for you to tell if he is town or not?
I don't know. My tried and tested method of reading Hapa is "does his posting give me the heebie jeebies". He's not posted enough for me to have placed him on the heebie-jeebie-ometer yet. I like to think I'd be reasonably confident on his alignment by the end of Day 1, certainly.
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Do you remember how sure of Hapa were you at the end of D1 in Catch 22?
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For the life of me I can't. Then again apparently I was 3rd party so my attention span was somewhat limited. Do you remember for me? lol
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Just browsed my filter and found this quote towards the end:
On June 23 2013 20:53 marvellosity wrote:
Unless something absolutely amazing comes up, there's not a chance we're lynching Hapa tomorrow
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Yeah that was on N1 when you had lynched DP the godfather. 
Anyways it was just a question, i was able to throw you off on Hapa in that game D1, while Hapa had scumreads on me/DP/OO on D1 (all mafia lol). I am banking on you having a decent read on him at the end of D1, as i have terribly misread him in the past (and i have never seen him play scum - although i hear it's quite terrible) and i do not need to distract you on him this game. ^_^
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 I'm more aware of your wiles by now, young one
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At this point i really don't see anyone being mafia other than FT, Sylencia and Tutankoopa.
Who's your top scumread(s) marv?
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Oh shit, yeah also debears. I kinda just ignored him since he was nott making any sense at all..
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Nothing all that much has changed from when I came in the thread this morning. Really for now I just want people who haven't posted much to post.
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On August 29 2013 20:38 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On August 29 2013 16:30 Sylencia wrote:On August 29 2013 16:21 sciberbia wrote:
Of course you can ask me who I think is mafia. I'm a little disappointed because there isn't much to go on yet, but my best guesses at mafia would be sn0_man, yourself, and yamato, in that order.
1) sn0_man for being in the thread for hours without doing anything relevant at all. And making some weird comment about being content with his vote on me, but then unvoting me for no reason.
2) Yourself for making some imo poor scumhunting attempts -- see above. Not sure how much of that is due to alchohol and how much due to your alignment though.
3) And yamato for being in the thread but avoiding engaging in discussion. Also I don't understand why marv is his strongest scumread for being useless when there is a whole handful of players who are as of yet equally useless.
I'd appreciate it if sylencia/tofu/yamato/anyone would chime in with agree/disagree on these three. Sn0, not really - reading his second post makes it look like he skimmed the thread, unvoted and went off to sleep or something. If he was around for hours I would've expected more than 2 posts there. debears - Agreed, mainly so far just due to the fact he's pushing on a lynch based on an exaggerated statement - at least I assume it was exaggerated. Given the rest of the post I'm quoting, maybe it's not but I saw it as being exaggerated. yamato - He's not avoiding discussion (I think), I just think his read on marv is weak. Sylencia at the time you wrote this post what was yamato's read on marv in your opinion and why?
Useless marv = scum marv was my impression. I don't have meta experience with marv so I don't know how much that holds but I mean it's stated pretty obviously in his post. Are you giving me a reading comprehension test or is this actually leading to something?
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On August 29 2013 21:24 raynpelikoneet wrote:
At this point i really don't see anyone being mafia other than FT, Sylencia and Tutankoopa.
Who's your top scumread(s) marv?
How do you end up having a scum read on me literally every game on D1?
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On August 29 2013 21:27 Sylencia wrote:Show nested quote +On August 29 2013 20:38 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 29 2013 16:30 Sylencia wrote:On August 29 2013 16:21 sciberbia wrote:
Of course you can ask me who I think is mafia. I'm a little disappointed because there isn't much to go on yet, but my best guesses at mafia would be sn0_man, yourself, and yamato, in that order.
1) sn0_man for being in the thread for hours without doing anything relevant at all. And making some weird comment about being content with his vote on me, but then unvoting me for no reason.
2) Yourself for making some imo poor scumhunting attempts -- see above. Not sure how much of that is due to alchohol and how much due to your alignment though.
3) And yamato for being in the thread but avoiding engaging in discussion. Also I don't understand why marv is his strongest scumread for being useless when there is a whole handful of players who are as of yet equally useless.
I'd appreciate it if sylencia/tofu/yamato/anyone would chime in with agree/disagree on these three. Sn0, not really - reading his second post makes it look like he skimmed the thread, unvoted and went off to sleep or something. If he was around for hours I would've expected more than 2 posts there. debears - Agreed, mainly so far just due to the fact he's pushing on a lynch based on an exaggerated statement - at least I assume it was exaggerated. Given the rest of the post I'm quoting, maybe it's not but I saw it as being exaggerated. yamato - He's not avoiding discussion (I think), I just think his read on marv is weak. Sylencia at the time you wrote this post what was yamato's read on marv in your opinion and why? Useless marv = scum marv was my impression. I don't have meta experience with marv so I don't know how much that holds but I mean it's stated pretty obviously in his post. Are you giving me a reading comprehension test or is this actually leading to something?
Wait you just contradicted yourself right?
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no, reading me by how useless I am is a terrible way to read me actually
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On August 29 2013 21:29 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On August 29 2013 21:27 Sylencia wrote:On August 29 2013 20:38 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 29 2013 16:30 Sylencia wrote:On August 29 2013 16:21 sciberbia wrote:
Of course you can ask me who I think is mafia. I'm a little disappointed because there isn't much to go on yet, but my best guesses at mafia would be sn0_man, yourself, and yamato, in that order.
1) sn0_man for being in the thread for hours without doing anything relevant at all. And making some weird comment about being content with his vote on me, but then unvoting me for no reason.
2) Yourself for making some imo poor scumhunting attempts -- see above. Not sure how much of that is due to alchohol and how much due to your alignment though.
3) And yamato for being in the thread but avoiding engaging in discussion. Also I don't understand why marv is his strongest scumread for being useless when there is a whole handful of players who are as of yet equally useless.
I'd appreciate it if sylencia/tofu/yamato/anyone would chime in with agree/disagree on these three. Sn0, not really - reading his second post makes it look like he skimmed the thread, unvoted and went off to sleep or something. If he was around for hours I would've expected more than 2 posts there. debears - Agreed, mainly so far just due to the fact he's pushing on a lynch based on an exaggerated statement - at least I assume it was exaggerated. Given the rest of the post I'm quoting, maybe it's not but I saw it as being exaggerated. yamato - He's not avoiding discussion (I think), I just think his read on marv is weak. Sylencia at the time you wrote this post what was yamato's read on marv in your opinion and why? Useless marv = scum marv was my impression. I don't have meta experience with marv so I don't know how much that holds but I mean it's stated pretty obviously in his post. Are you giving me a reading comprehension test or is this actually leading to something? Wait you just contradicted yourself right?
? I don't have experience with the meta of marv, I was assuming yamato does, and he pretty much said it in one of his posts.
On August 29 2013 11:56 yamato77 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 29 2013 11:52 Tutankoopa wrote:
yamato.... why are you playing hard-to-get? I thought we had something special.
I think my vote speaks for itself. Has Marv done anything particularly useful or even commented on anything yet? No. I want him to play the game. If he's town, it's not difficult.
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No, really:
sciberbia: "yamato thinks marv is scum because he is useless"
syl: "i think yamato's read on marv is weak"
syl: "useless marv = scum marv imo"
How does that make sense?
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EBWOP: said the reasoning of why he voted for marv* not about how he has meta.
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