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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
August 20 2013 11:26 GMT
#161
if rayn is serious about pressuring me and yamato because we gave antitown advice, he is scum.
Why? Because he knows that it isnt actually alignment indicative.
No gg, No skill.
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
August 20 2013 11:26 GMT
#162
What does Rayn being dumb have to do with his alignment, Oats?

I didn't even read Titanic but I've heard it's a prime example of an insanely overactive town pelikoneet.
Writer@WriterYamato
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
August 20 2013 11:27 GMT
#163
Me shooting you makes me scum how?

I propose a survivor claim. If there is a dumb enough survivor to claim, it helps town. I have a pro-town proposition and you immediately tell the survivor to not claim. Why? If someone had claim survivor, it would have helped town. If not, so fucking what? It does not change the fact that my proposition is pro-town and your immediate response is anti-town.
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yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
August 20 2013 11:28 GMT
#164
On August 20 2013 20:27 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Me shooting you makes me scum how?

I propose a survivor claim. If there is a dumb enough survivor to claim, it helps town. I have a pro-town proposition and you immediately tell the survivor to not claim. Why? If someone had claim survivor, it would have helped town. If not, so fucking what? It does not change the fact that my proposition is pro-town and your immediate response is anti-town.

Finding out who the survivor is does not help town, at all, but whatever.

I guess you're already in the "too-dumb-to-be-scum" category.
Writer@WriterYamato
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
August 20 2013 11:29 GMT
#165
TLDR; Why the fuck do players feel the need to tell anti-town roles how to play correctly?

Can you answer me Oats & yamato? How does what you said help town? Do you think my proposition did somehow harm the town?
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yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
August 20 2013 11:30 GMT
#166
What does "helping town or not" have to do with alignment?

You have yet to make that connection, even if you think you were being pro-town.
Writer@WriterYamato
Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9696 Posts
August 20 2013 11:31 GMT
#167
Why would survivor claim they basicly want to play a town game without gathering much attention, and claiming does exactly that bring you attention. And they return green to checks. They arent going to play a scummy game and get lynched so it is good they return green, so basicly your arguement they should claim is bad.
Try TL Mafia!!!
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
August 20 2013 11:33 GMT
#168
It doesn't even help town if they do claim. They are a compketely neutral party and should be thought of as such.

SK is "anti-town". Survivor is not. End of dumb argument about claims and such.
Writer@WriterYamato
Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9696 Posts
August 20 2013 11:33 GMT
#169
On August 20 2013 20:29 raynpelikoneet wrote:
TLDR; Why the fuck do players feel the need to tell anti-town roles how to play correctly?

Can you answer me Oats & yamato? How does what you said help town? Do you think my proposition did somehow harm the town?


Why are they anti town?


I would think they are pro town just dont stick out to much
Try TL Mafia!!!
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
August 20 2013 11:33 GMT
#170
On August 20 2013 20:30 yamato77 wrote:
What does "helping town or not" have to do with alignment?

You have yet to make that connection, even if you think you were being pro-town.

lol. Can you see how dumb your question is? Townies try to help town, scum do not.

On August 20 2013 20:28 yamato77 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2013 20:27 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Me shooting you makes me scum how?

I propose a survivor claim. If there is a dumb enough survivor to claim, it helps town. I have a pro-town proposition and you immediately tell the survivor to not claim. Why? If someone had claim survivor, it would have helped town. If not, so fucking what? It does not change the fact that my proposition is pro-town and your immediate response is anti-town.

Finding out who the survivor is does not help town, at all, but whatever.

I guess you're already in the "too-dumb-to-be-scum" category.

If someone claims survivor, how exactly does that not help the town? We just figured out one player who is definitely not town.

Did you roll scum again yamato?
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
August 20 2013 11:35 GMT
#171
If I roll survivor I will just claim with my first post and afk the rest of the game. Biggest chance to success.
I had a good night of sleep.
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
August 20 2013 11:36 GMT
#172
On August 20 2013 20:33 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2013 20:30 yamato77 wrote:
What does "helping town or not" have to do with alignment?

You have yet to make that connection, even if you think you were being pro-town.

lol. Can you see how dumb your question is? Townies try to help town, scum do not.

Show nested quote +
On August 20 2013 20:28 yamato77 wrote:
On August 20 2013 20:27 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Me shooting you makes me scum how?

I propose a survivor claim. If there is a dumb enough survivor to claim, it helps town. I have a pro-town proposition and you immediately tell the survivor to not claim. Why? If someone had claim survivor, it would have helped town. If not, so fucking what? It does not change the fact that my proposition is pro-town and your immediate response is anti-town.

Finding out who the survivor is does not help town, at all, but whatever.

I guess you're already in the "too-dumb-to-be-scum" category.

If someone claims survivor, how exactly does that not help the town? We just figured out one player who is definitely not town.

Did you roll scum again yamato?

Do we have to lynch the survivor to win the game? No. Why the fuck do we care who it is, then? There's nothing pro-town about the idea they should claim at all.

And no, townies do not always try to help town and scum do not always play anti-town. Your argument is flawed at every level.
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
August 20 2013 11:36 GMT
#173
On August 20 2013 20:35 Koshi wrote:
If I roll survivor I will just claim with my first post and afk the rest of the game. Biggest chance to success.

...

Did you not read your role PM or something?
Writer@WriterYamato
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
August 20 2013 11:37 GMT
#174
On August 20 2013 20:36 yamato77 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2013 20:35 Koshi wrote:
If I roll survivor I will just claim with my first post and afk the rest of the game. Biggest chance to success.

...

Did you not read your role PM or something?

I did and I was disappointed.
I had a good night of sleep.
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
August 20 2013 11:38 GMT
#175
On August 20 2013 20:37 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2013 20:36 yamato77 wrote:
On August 20 2013 20:35 Koshi wrote:
If I roll survivor I will just claim with my first post and afk the rest of the game. Biggest chance to success.

...

Did you not read your role PM or something?

I did and I was disappointed.

Because you rolled scum again?

Lol.
Writer@WriterYamato
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
August 20 2013 11:41 GMT
#176
On August 20 2013 20:38 yamato77 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2013 20:37 Koshi wrote:
On August 20 2013 20:36 yamato77 wrote:
On August 20 2013 20:35 Koshi wrote:
If I roll survivor I will just claim with my first post and afk the rest of the game. Biggest chance to success.

...

Did you not read your role PM or something?

I did and I was disappointed.

Because you rolled scum again?

Lol.

You make me feel better :D
I had a good night of sleep.
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
August 20 2013 11:43 GMT
#177
On August 20 2013 20:41 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2013 20:38 yamato77 wrote:
On August 20 2013 20:37 Koshi wrote:
On August 20 2013 20:36 yamato77 wrote:
On August 20 2013 20:35 Koshi wrote:
If I roll survivor I will just claim with my first post and afk the rest of the game. Biggest chance to success.

...

Did you not read your role PM or something?

I did and I was disappointed.

Because you rolled scum again?

Lol.

You make me feel better :D

<3
Writer@WriterYamato
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
August 20 2013 11:47 GMT
#178
yamato you are being dumb but probably town.

If i ask for the survivor to claim there is no downside for the town:
1) Nobody claims, 0 downside, 0 upside
2) Someone is stupid enough to claim survivor, the possibilities are:
- They are really dumb mafia (so not really a possibility)
- They are really dumb SK (so not really a possibility)
- They are a survivor. Then we can assume there is probably not a SK in the game. We then judge them later on (are they helping town or not). If they are not, we lynch them, if they are - mafia needs to kill them (not kill a townie).

What i do not understand is why people feel the need to tell non-town roles how to play (a same situation occured in GoT when Clarity/Xatalos basically told mafia roleblocker to claim JK - or "that would be the only thing they would accept"). I see no point in it. There is basically no town-motivation in giving the "correct" answers to anti-town roles in the first place and i don't see why people do it. For reference, Oats in his post implies Survivor is anti-town. It's clear from what he says. Why does he want to give anti-town people advice on how to play?
table for two on a tv tray
Crazometer
Profile Joined August 2013
Australia45 Posts
August 20 2013 11:48 GMT
#179
Lol, such personal attacks. Ryan, even the best laid plans can come unstuck but I think we got something out of it either way . I'm unsure what really happens next as I've mainly just played these in person, but around now we would go around the circle with each person claiming they were vanilla characters in order. I'll start. I'm Crazometer and I'm a Citizen of Inaba.
It was the best of times, it was the blurst of times
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
August 20 2013 11:51 GMT
#180
Mafia doesn't have to kill the survivor to win, either. It's like you don't understand that they are completely impartial.

The point isn't that we're telling them not to claim, it is that they won't claim and asking them to is actually just a waste of time. The name of the game is mafia, because you're trying to find and kill them, not the survivors.

Writer@WriterYamato
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