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On August 21 2013 01:59 geript wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2013 01:52 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 21 2013 01:48 geript wrote:
Fristed. Tell me why you think him +1ing WoS stupid no talk N0 idea inst scummy. Also the stupid odd way to claim town. wtf man? Because i have seen townies do it before (WoS). I assume face to face -mafia games start like that. What's scummy in that if he is new? I don't play f2f. If he's new it makes him far more scummy because its a random way to hide. Same reason foe why palmar was scum on me in lxi for +1 his read on vivas. Class then work.
Your only reason for thinking he is mafia was that "if he is Mocsta he is scum".
Why do you now assume if he is new he is mafia aswell? I agree there is a point in you saying "a good way to hide if he is scum", but does that make him scum? Also why did you bring up the "stupid no N0 talk idea" as it's easy to point out it does not make him mafia, i have pointed it out already and you know it as you have read my case on WoS?
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Rainbows make a case on Snodude. All i see is you saying "hey guys, don't you think this and that is scummy?". Point out why is calling scummy behaviour scummy. I can understand snoman doing that as town aswell.
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nonono. nobody discuss the setup now. we find scum, we are doin g so good already with no stupid setup talk after we got the discussion going!!
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On August 21 2013 02:12 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2013 02:03 DarthPunk wrote:On August 21 2013 01:57 Oatsmaster wrote:On August 21 2013 01:53 DarthPunk wrote:On August 21 2013 01:46 Oatsmaster wrote:
actually,
DP what do you mean by 'viewing the thread from the perspective of rayn being town'? If I was wrong about rayn and he was town. Then his analysis and meta of koshi was genuine and trustworthy making it far more likely that koshi was, in fact, being a retarded townie. Then taking away koshi as a suspect and ignoring my tunnel, Rayn actually had the best case in the thread and pointed out a lot of things about WoS that i also have problems with (avoidance of discussion being the major thing) Rayn had 1 of 2 cases in the thread. How is making a good case = town? Especially with the avoidance of discussion being so fucking obvious? I was already viewing him as town because after i de-tunnelled a lot of his interaction/frustration with me came across as townie. like he says he won't discuss koshi but he can't let it go and does anyway. he got into a shit fight with me willingly and didn't back down. That shit is hard to fake. Could he be faking? sure. But i have more reasons to think he is town than to not do so. So already viewing rayn as town. He has the best case in the thread, I want to put my weight behind it and see what is up with WoS. I also trust rayns analysis of koshi based on their previous game. I'm not sure what is so hard to understand. Can you explain why Rayns case is good?
btw i am still waiting for your response to the case..
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On August 21 2013 02:20 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2013 02:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 21 2013 02:12 Oatsmaster wrote:On August 21 2013 02:03 DarthPunk wrote:On August 21 2013 01:57 Oatsmaster wrote:On August 21 2013 01:53 DarthPunk wrote:On August 21 2013 01:46 Oatsmaster wrote:
actually,
DP what do you mean by 'viewing the thread from the perspective of rayn being town'? If I was wrong about rayn and he was town. Then his analysis and meta of koshi was genuine and trustworthy making it far more likely that koshi was, in fact, being a retarded townie. Then taking away koshi as a suspect and ignoring my tunnel, Rayn actually had the best case in the thread and pointed out a lot of things about WoS that i also have problems with (avoidance of discussion being the major thing) Rayn had 1 of 2 cases in the thread. How is making a good case = town? Especially with the avoidance of discussion being so fucking obvious? I was already viewing him as town because after i de-tunnelled a lot of his interaction/frustration with me came across as townie. like he says he won't discuss koshi but he can't let it go and does anyway. he got into a shit fight with me willingly and didn't back down. That shit is hard to fake. Could he be faking? sure. But i have more reasons to think he is town than to not do so. So already viewing rayn as town. He has the best case in the thread, I want to put my weight behind it and see what is up with WoS. I also trust rayns analysis of koshi based on their previous game. I'm not sure what is so hard to understand. Can you explain why Rayns case is good? btw i am still waiting for your response to the case.. its all 'WoS didnt answer me'
Either you did not read my case at all or you are scum.
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On August 21 2013 02:26 Rainbows wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2013 02:23 Sn0_Man wrote:On August 21 2013 02:13 Rainbows wrote:On August 21 2013 02:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Rainbows make a case on Snodude. All i see is you saying "hey guys, don't you think this and that is scummy?". Point out why is calling scummy behaviour scummy. I can understand snoman doing that as town aswell. Well, I'm lazy with cases and I just post post post things as they come. My issue stands with him being a passive finger pointer, and it's something that I see scum do time and time again. Where can they push a mislynch? Where can they set up and justify their position for future mislynches? Brightly shining townies are such because they take hard stances and lynch the fuck out of their suspicions. Good scum try to emulate that, but usually fall short. Either Sn0 is scum, or he just doesn't have much of an opinion? I'm a lot more agressive and I make a lot more cases as scum because I know who is dirty and who is clean. I have lots of opinions but precious little certainty as town so I read what people write and do my best to make sure that everybody is participating. I still think we should lynch Koshi but we've been over that a thousand times and we aren't getting anywhere with it. Reiterating that every half hour isn't solving anything or advancing the thread. I still dislike how Onegu is playing but so far any attempts to keep him a topic have failed and it isn't like we are deep enough into the game to seriously fault him for a lack of content. Plus he finally made a comment that felt like it was more than pure sheep (his last post re: Koshi that I don't agree with but at least it was semi-intelligent). I'm also the only person making reasonable arguments regarding vig shots. While I disagree and argue that vig shots are largely a waste of time to speculate on, I surprisingly like the first part of this answer as a defense.
Wait Rainbows. The "first part of the answer" is exactly what you are accusing him of. lol.
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Snodude: In what game have you played scum here? I tried looking at your profile but you don't have info on there of your mafia games and i don't want to look over 10 pages of posted threads.
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Rainbows could you do a meta-comparsion on sno in this game and his scumgame as that's what seems to be lessening your scumread on him.
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On August 21 2013 02:33 Oatsmaster wrote:
yeah its all WoS didnt answer me.
and then you referenced it with another game where he was town and said why his non-answering made him scum.
Thats all.
no it's not. you are probably mafia.-
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On August 21 2013 02:47 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2013 02:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 21 2013 02:33 Oatsmaster wrote:
yeah its all WoS didnt answer me.
and then you referenced it with another game where he was town and said why his non-answering made him scum.
Thats all.
no it's not. you are probably mafia.- thanks for telling me what you think your case is about.
Ehh.. i think i was pretty clear in it:
"There is a perfectly fine explanation for his behaviour. Why does he not say that here, in this game? Why is he not trying to explain why town!WoS would bring that "let's not talk on N0" stuff again?
Answer is:
- Because he is mafia and he is trying to play the "look, i played similarly in the other same-a-like game".
- He didn't even think of needing to have an explanation because of "look, i played similarly in the other same-a-like game" would be enough.
- If he was town he could, should and would explain himself."
Can you give me a single town reason why WoS would not explain his "we should not talk N0 in this game"?
Can you?
Because i can't, and i gave all of you his scum!reasons, supported with his own post.
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Oats please do not be bad now, not now.
Read the post again and please do not be bad. It's all explained in it.
- He didn't even think of needing to have an explanation because of "look, i played similarly in the other same-a-like game" would be enough.
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On August 21 2013 03:04 Oatsmaster wrote:
I dunno rayn, I just dont think ONLY scum WoS wouldve been a dick.
And it worries me that DP thought that your case was awesome. Does it worry you?
nonono. DP is town. My case is awesome. You can lynch me on D2 if WoS flips town. Deal?
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I am going to die either way on N0. Really, this is the most confident read i have ever had on the first phase of any mafia game of my life. Vig WoS please. Please vig WoS, he is mafia!
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You can lynch me on D1 if a vig shoots WoS and i am wrong. srsly!
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I am not a dramaqueen. WoS is mafia.
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On August 21 2013 03:23 Sn0_Man wrote:
I still think pushing for a lynch on somebody you believe is mafia is more valuable to town (due to how voting provides information) than pushing for a vig on the same person. Vig shots provide so little info, but are solid for getting rid of the scummy people whose lynch doesn't really provide enough discussion and who won't provide enough content to judge them on.
Maybe thats just the way I see it but pulling for a Vig shot on WoS just doesn't seem right. Even though I'd be quite suprised at this stage if rayn was scum. Yes, being afraid of dying and then people forgetting your case is a legitimate concern I suppose.
Why would you not shoot mafia ?
Also why did Rainbows leave when i asked to remake his meta case on you?
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On August 21 2013 03:38 Sn0_Man wrote:
Lynching is more information than shooting, marginally. That is to say, would you rather shoot WoS and lynch Crazometer or shoot Crazometer and lynch WoS? Because I take the latter, every time.
I would shoot WoS (as he is scum) and lynch another scum.
lol why? what makes Crazydude mafia?
mkfuba, plz read the thread if you are town.
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You kill scum when you can!
WoS is mafia!
Kill him now if you can!
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On August 21 2013 03:41 Sn0_Man wrote:
I have less faith in the general scumhunting ability around here than you do.
What makes Crazydude mafia? I am gonna repeat the question as long as you keep dodging it.
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