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Rainbows
Profile Joined March 2013
Germany1217 Posts
August 23 2013 14:38 GMT
#1571
Hey guys just woke up.

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Rainbows
Profile Joined March 2013
Germany1217 Posts
August 23 2013 15:17 GMT
#1581
Rayn has a confirmed red check. Scum don't frame miller -- he's already going to show up red. Regular cops don't check miller claims. What WoS did was basically get himself an iron clad check on one person by checking the guy he knew was going to be red if scum or town. Prolly didn't know he could use himself, incase HE was a framed. WoS was a target of great suspicion and likely to be framed -- using himself as a check would have been crapshoot imo. Koshi was boss choice.

Rayn scum or framed --- confirmed.
Rainbows
Profile Joined March 2013
Germany1217 Posts
August 23 2013 15:21 GMT
#1584
On August 24 2013 00:19 kushm4sta wrote:
scum frame miller because obviously parity cop is going to pick him. also it's either that or try and guess randomly who to frame. SCUM WILL ALWAYS FRAME MILLER


Obviously scum know there is a parity cop as opposed to a regular one. /logic
Rainbows
Profile Joined March 2013
Germany1217 Posts
August 23 2013 15:23 GMT
#1585
Everyone wifom that red check. wifom wifom wifom framers millers godfathers and liars wooooh baby.

Now can we lynch scum tomorrow, plz? Vig Rayne if we can.
Rainbows
Profile Joined March 2013
Germany1217 Posts
August 23 2013 15:26 GMT
#1588
On August 24 2013 00:25 Sn0_Man wrote:
Having a SAM and a NSAM in the same game seems a bit excessive but what do I know. Either way, we have a solid if not 100% certain red check. The whole point of Framers Godfathers Millers etc is to force people to THINK about checks not just "lol check okay we win".

As such, lets THINK about rayn. If you guys don't think he is scum after his performance N0/D1 and how hard he pushed WoS (note how he begged for a Vig kill on our blue role lmao) then I'm not sure what to say. You sided with him on the vote because he shouted the loudest. Now that it is PROVEN he is full of shit by WoS flipping town (blue even) can we just lynch the obvious scum?


Saying WoS was blue does nothing to help this post.
Rainbows
Profile Joined March 2013
Germany1217 Posts
August 23 2013 15:42 GMT
#1591
Whatever... I'll be back after work.

If scum could not shoot me that'd be fantastic as well.
Rainbows
Profile Joined March 2013
Germany1217 Posts
August 24 2013 14:14 GMT
#1834
Can someone give me some outside input on this interaction between me and Tofu? Would he say this as town?

On August 23 2013 08:43 FirmTofu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2013 08:34 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 23 2013 08:23 FirmTofu wrote:
Rayn, what do you think of Oatsmaster? I can't decide if he's scum or town. I'll filter dive him and try to get a stronger read on him.

Do you have any reads you want to bounce off of me?

I'll discuss Oats with you guys on N1. We are not lynching him this phase whatever he is. I know how to catch him but his D1 play is so similar nowadays as town/mafia it's impossible to tell which one he is.

What do you make of Rainbows/mkfuba interaction earlier on in the phase?

Agreed on Oats.

The Rainbows/mkfuba interaction was a funny one. Rainbow's case wasn't bad, but it wasn't particularly good either. It reminds me of Clarity's Day 1 case on me in Titanic. Nothing was damning and most of it was to elicit some kind of response.

mkfuba's defense looks especially constructed and careful. There's some instances when he draws attention to how "unsure" he is. See: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=425521&currentpage=47#933

Sentences like, "I could be overthinking it entirely" are not what I expect from town.

I think mkfuba looks scummier than rainbows.


On August 23 2013 12:19 Rainbows wrote:
For the sake of consolidation I'm content with FT or Onegu perhaps.


On August 23 2013 12:42 FirmTofu wrote:
Rainbows, if you have any doubts about my alignment, please read my post regarding you and fuba.


On August 23 2013 12:47 Rainbows wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2013 12:43 FirmTofu wrote:
On August 23 2013 08:43 FirmTofu wrote:
On August 23 2013 08:34 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 23 2013 08:23 FirmTofu wrote:
Rayn, what do you think of Oatsmaster? I can't decide if he's scum or town. I'll filter dive him and try to get a stronger read on him.

Do you have any reads you want to bounce off of me?

I'll discuss Oats with you guys on N1. We are not lynching him this phase whatever he is. I know how to catch him but his D1 play is so similar nowadays as town/mafia it's impossible to tell which one he is.

What do you make of Rainbows/mkfuba interaction earlier on in the phase?

Agreed on Oats.

The Rainbows/mkfuba interaction was a funny one. Rainbow's case wasn't bad, but it wasn't particularly good either. It reminds me of Clarity's Day 1 case on me in Titanic. Nothing was damning and most of it was to elicit some kind of response.

mkfuba's defense looks especially constructed and careful. There's some instances when he draws attention to how "unsure" he is. See: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=425521&currentpage=47#933

Sentences like, "I could be overthinking it entirely" are not what I expect from town.

I think mkfuba looks scummier than rainbows.

Here it is for reference.


FirmTofu, just because you think Fuba is scummier than me doesn't mean you're town considering I don't know the alignment of Fuba.


Bolded is the main part I have trouble with. Why does he think his post will tell me his alignment (assumingly, town)? Does he know I'm town advocating his lynch here? It's been bothering me a LOT.
Rainbows
Profile Joined March 2013
Germany1217 Posts
August 24 2013 14:14 GMT
#1835
On August 24 2013 23:09 kushm4sta wrote:
scumteam is yamato, mkfuba, onegu
final answer
no take backs


MKFUBA YES KILL WITH FIRE
Rainbows
Profile Joined March 2013
Germany1217 Posts
August 24 2013 14:21 GMT
#1837
On August 24 2013 23:19 kushm4sta wrote:
yo rainboys,
ft has to be town. this quote basically confirms him town:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2013 15:04 FirmTofu wrote:
Furthermore, what exactly in that post made "you feel better about Crazy"? Please explain, because there is nothing redeeming about Crazy's post.



I was actually just looking at that in Onegu's filter. It doesn't confirm FT town, though it helps, but it makes Onegu look like scum.
Rainbows
Profile Joined March 2013
Germany1217 Posts
August 24 2013 14:24 GMT
#1839
I'm definitely paranoid about FT. Onegu / fuba look way better lynch candidates right now.
Rainbows
Profile Joined March 2013
Germany1217 Posts
August 24 2013 14:25 GMT
#1840
Looking into yamato soon. Is he pissed off as either alignment?
Rainbows
Profile Joined March 2013
Germany1217 Posts
August 24 2013 14:33 GMT
#1842
I hope everyone is on the same page with Vayne being pseudo-confirmed town?
Rainbows
Profile Joined March 2013
Germany1217 Posts
August 24 2013 14:38 GMT
#1844
Oh God Kush these connections in their filters are nice. Now if only I could stop being paranoid enough to fully believe them. Kush actually reading? TOWN KUSH?!
Rainbows
Profile Joined March 2013
Germany1217 Posts
August 24 2013 14:51 GMT
#1845
VayneAuthority
johnnywup <---- Pandas?
Sn0_Man <---- Hodor?
mkfuba07
FirmTofu <--- maybe mafia, if mafia with craze/mkfuba then decently good at distancing.
Onegu
Rainbows
kushm4sta
Koshi
raynpelikoneet <--- lol
yamato77

Yeah I like this list, a lot. I'd prefer Mkfuba but I guess I sheep for now.

##Vote: Yamato77
Rainbows
Profile Joined March 2013
Germany1217 Posts
August 25 2013 16:39 GMT
#2099
Wow this thread...

Fuba is probably Vigilante. If he is SK it makes no sense for him to claim. If he's mafia, then they must know there is an SK and it is safe to fakeclaim. With no kill N1, I doubt there is an SK. If we see multiple kills in future nights then we can speculate.

Is Rayn contributing to a town atmosphere at all here? I'm more inclined to believe he's some sort of mafia baneling to shit up the thread. A cop claim? I faked cop as mafia before and everyone went with it at lylo... problem is, Rayn isn't being clear as to wtf he's saying. Red check on Vayne? Is Yamato mafia? Idk.

@Hosts Can Alignment Cops be insane, paranoid, etc?

4 blues isn't that far-fetched. In 3-scum games there are often 3 blues. Especially if there is a GF and framer like some people suggest, as well as a miller, 2 cops seems actually balanced.

This cop claim does make me Picard Facepalm in it's conception, if real. I don't trust Rayn.

That being said, the Yamato lynch is poop right now. I'm more inclined to believe mafia are being silent and letting the lynch just happen. Ugh. I'll lynch pretty much anyone right now except Koshi or Kush -- lmfao. When you don't want to lynch Kush you know the game is fucked.

@Rayn

Who were your two 'checks', n0 and n1, and why didn't you check fucking WoS??
Rainbows
Profile Joined March 2013
Germany1217 Posts
August 25 2013 17:06 GMT
#2100
Wait,

WHY WOULD RAYN ASK TO BE VIGGED IF HE'S COP? HE'D WANT TO LIVE TO GET HIS EXTRA CHECK.
Rainbows
Profile Joined March 2013
Germany1217 Posts
August 25 2013 17:06 GMT
#2101
##Unvote
##Vote: Rayn
Rainbows
Profile Joined March 2013
Germany1217 Posts
August 25 2013 17:07 GMT
#2102
He wasnt getting shot by mafia so he'd probably live through the night. Asking to be vigged as COP is fucking retarded.
Rainbows
Profile Joined March 2013
Germany1217 Posts
August 25 2013 17:19 GMT
#2104
I only read to the part of both dudes claiming, what the fuck.

Fakeclaims? If Rayn is town he is seriously fucking town over this game. That did NOTHING to gain town any momentum. We should lynch Yamato, and then we should lynch Onegu.

##Unvote
##Vote: Yamato
Rainbows
Profile Joined March 2013
Germany1217 Posts
August 25 2013 17:26 GMT
#2106
On August 26 2013 02:24 Koshi wrote:
I want to lynch Onegu first tbh. We will see what happens.


Okay we can do this too

##Unvote
##Vote: Onegu


Afk rest of day.
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