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On August 23 2013 09:44 yamato77 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 23 2013 09:41 VayneAuthority wrote:By that same token, you are mafia yamato. No real pressure this game yet. Yamato's case ![[image loading]](http://gifs.gifbin.com/082013/1377174052_giant_louisiana_sinkhole_swallows_trees.gif) I've been far more proactive in the thread than you have. I haven't played since yesterday, so what? I'm here now, and you still have yet to do anything to discount the feeling I have that you are mafia.
and back to square one, the proactive thing again. A lot of people that like repeating stuff in this game like it somehow sounds better the second time.
I've easily discredited everything you've said so far so I'll leave it at that. If you have anything new i'll be glad to demolish that too.
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On August 23 2013 10:27 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On August 23 2013 10:21 mkfuba07 wrote:On August 23 2013 10:07 kushm4sta wrote:
why do you think he unvoted sno for WoS then peaced?? wos is never gonna get lynched tonight It's really weird, and I can't think of a reason other than him actually being so convinced that WoS is scum that WoS not mentioning Onegu *really* tipped him over the edge. I can---the exact reason I said. He needed a final reason to look 'tipped over the edge' so he could vote me and fuck off. He had no intention of ever having his vote off of me for very long and wanted to find a reason to put it back despite the fact that he's been calling me scum since the beginning of the game, never wavered and yet for some reason wanted to vote Sn0 for a while.
sooo...if you never posted the rest of the phase what happens then? That's a pretty illogical way of thinking. Take it for what it is - you had some one as scum and then completely forget about it somehow despite them doing absolutely nothing.
The way you pick and choose to call out people that are "doing nothing" makes zero sense to me. Either half this game is scum or you're picking and choosing targets for a reason.
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On August 23 2013 10:31 WaveofShadow wrote:
Sorry for triplepost.
I don't want to waste my time pushing Rayn right now if no one will even consider him scum right now. It's much more important in my eyes to find scum that we can get some sort of majority (or at least large number) on.
Also Vayne, OMGUSvoting yamato is terrible play. Stop that. Do you actually think he's scum?
i don't see how it's terrible play. He refuses to take his vote off me (if you read the back and forth) so there's not much I can do except defend myself with my vote. Nothing anyone says will change his mind. You don't think that's weird and just an excuse to do nothing the rest of the phase?
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On August 23 2013 10:34 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On August 23 2013 10:33 VayneAuthority wrote:On August 23 2013 10:27 WaveofShadow wrote:On August 23 2013 10:21 mkfuba07 wrote:On August 23 2013 10:07 kushm4sta wrote:
why do you think he unvoted sno for WoS then peaced?? wos is never gonna get lynched tonight It's really weird, and I can't think of a reason other than him actually being so convinced that WoS is scum that WoS not mentioning Onegu *really* tipped him over the edge. I can---the exact reason I said. He needed a final reason to look 'tipped over the edge' so he could vote me and fuck off. He had no intention of ever having his vote off of me for very long and wanted to find a reason to put it back despite the fact that he's been calling me scum since the beginning of the game, never wavered and yet for some reason wanted to vote Sn0 for a while. sooo...if you never posted the rest of the phase what happens then? That's a pretty illogical way of thinking. Take it for what it is - you had some one as scum and then completely forget about it somehow despite them doing absolutely nothing. The way you pick and choose to call out people that are "doing nothing" makes zero sense to me. Either half this game is scum or you're picking and choosing targets for a reason. Who have I picked and chosen to call scum for doing nothing, Vayne?
Myself for one. Somehow I'm scummy because I'm doing nothing but people like onegu magically slip off your radar when they aren't either? could you explain that?
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On August 23 2013 10:35 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On August 23 2013 10:34 VayneAuthority wrote:On August 23 2013 10:31 WaveofShadow wrote:
Sorry for triplepost.
I don't want to waste my time pushing Rayn right now if no one will even consider him scum right now. It's much more important in my eyes to find scum that we can get some sort of majority (or at least large number) on.
Also Vayne, OMGUSvoting yamato is terrible play. Stop that. Do you actually think he's scum? i don't see how it's terrible play. He refuses to take his vote off me (if you read the back and forth) so there's not much I can do except defend myself with my vote. Nothing anyone says will change his mind. You don't think that's weird and just an excuse to do nothing the rest of the phase? I do, but unless you think he's scum and show us how, what does throwing your own vote back at him do?
More of an ego thing than anything. He personally thinks if we are two lynch choices that he will win easily, and you know I don't take kindly to people trying to have ego battles with me.
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On August 23 2013 08:45 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On August 23 2013 08:29 FirmTofu wrote:
I think we are starting to form a strong town circle and scum is getting antsy trying to poke holes in it.
Koshi, what are your thoughts on Oats? I disagree but meh. I have scumteam right now as Rayn/Crazy/and 1-2 of Rainbows/Oats/yamato/Vayne/geript. Hmm...maybe fuba as well but I'd have to re-read. This game IS closer to Basterd for him than Roulette. Fuba I hope we're not on separate teams because then I'll be sad we don't go 3/3! You don't want to make me sad do you? In other news I really want to consolidate tonight before I have to go to bed tonight. I hate not being around for deadline.
dont play games with me dude, I read the thread like a hawk
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On August 23 2013 10:44 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On August 23 2013 10:43 VayneAuthority wrote:On August 23 2013 08:45 WaveofShadow wrote:On August 23 2013 08:29 FirmTofu wrote:
I think we are starting to form a strong town circle and scum is getting antsy trying to poke holes in it.
Koshi, what are your thoughts on Oats? I disagree but meh. I have scumteam right now as Rayn/Crazy/and 1-2 of Rainbows/Oats/yamato/Vayne/geript. Hmm...maybe fuba as well but I'd have to re-read. This game IS closer to Basterd for him than Roulette. Fuba I hope we're not on separate teams because then I'll be sad we don't go 3/3! You don't want to make me sad do you? In other news I really want to consolidate tonight before I have to go to bed tonight. I hate not being around for deadline. dont play games with me dude, I read the thread like a hawk I'm not. That doesn't mean you're scum. That means you're null and I could maybe see you as the unknown last member of a scumteam along with like 5 other people. U mad I don't have you as super shiny townread or something?
yea as you can see I get very upset when people bring up scum and me in the same sentence because the one time I ever got lynched was a day 1 lynch and I had 3 of the 4 anti town members correct. I won't be looking to die early again here.
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On August 23 2013 10:50 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On August 23 2013 10:48 VayneAuthority wrote:On August 23 2013 10:44 WaveofShadow wrote:On August 23 2013 10:43 VayneAuthority wrote:On August 23 2013 08:45 WaveofShadow wrote:On August 23 2013 08:29 FirmTofu wrote:
I think we are starting to form a strong town circle and scum is getting antsy trying to poke holes in it.
Koshi, what are your thoughts on Oats? I disagree but meh. I have scumteam right now as Rayn/Crazy/and 1-2 of Rainbows/Oats/yamato/Vayne/geript. Hmm...maybe fuba as well but I'd have to re-read. This game IS closer to Basterd for him than Roulette. Fuba I hope we're not on separate teams because then I'll be sad we don't go 3/3! You don't want to make me sad do you? In other news I really want to consolidate tonight before I have to go to bed tonight. I hate not being around for deadline. dont play games with me dude, I read the thread like a hawk I'm not. That doesn't mean you're scum. That means you're null and I could maybe see you as the unknown last member of a scumteam along with like 5 other people. U mad I don't have you as super shiny townread or something? yea as you can see I get very upset when people bring up scum and me in the same sentence because the one time I ever got lynched was a day 1 lynch and I had 3 of the 4 anti town members correct. I won't be looking to die early again here. When yamato started in on you I was about to comment that I wouldn't mind a Vayne lynch solely because I know it would piss you off like crazy.  Alright Vayne honestly. Who are we voting for today? Do you think we shouldn't get rid of Crazometer?
I don't see what killing some one that hasn't associated himself with anything accomplishes. I would rather lynch into some one that has taken sides and given opinions as it's easier to figure out the game from there.
I could lynch into sn0/rainbows/ or even yamato if he continues to just use laziness as an excuse to not do anything except tunnel me considering I debunked everything he stated (not that I even needed to it was so bad)
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kush as a wildcard, still have that potential scum slip in the back of my mind. he became aware of his meta being so easy to read in sicilian so I wouldnt be surprised here if he switched it up if he rolls scum. It won't be as easy as lol he bussed everyone ---> kill him
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not like it matters if yamato and rayn are both mafia, thats like the least of our worries. It would be so obvious after a few night kills. They gonna hafta die or not die at some point.
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It's not more likely for either scenario. Framing SAM is just as bad since we get a confirmed town out of it. pure WIFOM and should just be ignored.
With how the voting went, we might have been close. Sn0_man isn't exactly a bad shot given all the last second vote switches to WoS
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unless a townie is withholding info and ruining the game there is no roleblocker. Scum team is 2 goons, 1 GF, 1 framer in all likelihood.
So the red check is meaningless considering koshi claimed before night actions.
He also basically always pushes mislynches so nothing new there either, he is just the best at getting people to vote with him
(honestly regardless of him alignment I usually prefer him dead as it opens up the game more)
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If we are honestly killing rayn, then we better hope we have some sort of vig. we are not wasting a day cycle on him using a 50 page filter to shit up the thread
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I didn't notice there was an alignment cop also in the rolelist.
Lynching rayn makes a lot more sense now
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On August 24 2013 01:39 WaveofShadow wrote:
gg guys.
sorry
no problem, in retrospect your survival instincts now make a lot of sense. I went to sleep before you breadcrumbed =/
I'd say onegu looks the worst coming out of this lynch, he was really up for anything between sn0_man and WOS. If sno man ever flips town at some point I think this guy should basically be an auto lynch.
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As town you should always like some one who defends you, because they can't keep it up forever. If scum defends all the town then they will eventually have to re-adjust or...lose the game.
I have no idea what sn0_man is talking about right now and why he is so intent on making people that OMGUS look bad when it's a very simple way to play the game. Don't get lynched as town ---> did your job
I'm waiting to see what happens tonight Oats, I may or may not be posting completely bullshit right now since it's night.
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It's hard to read you as town when you blow stupid little things out of proportion.
I was obviously advocating that everybody no lynches, lol
Also yamato is insanely scummy whether you like it or not.
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On August 24 2013 02:18 Sn0_Man wrote:
Its hard to read you as town when you did literally no scumhunting D1, threw away your vote on somebody who obviously wasn't getting lynched AND never even tried to convince others to lynch him, made no case on him beyond "well you voted me and I warned you I'll vote you back" and are now calling him "insanely scummy" still without further justification. And are implying that you have done your job and that it certainly couldn't be even a fraction your fault that we just lynched a powerful blue role.
I'd love to hear some reasons why yamato is scummy. Preferably compare/contrast them to A) a confirmed red check and B) Actively driving a mislynch for ~70 hours.
whats the point of convincing you of anything when you are already too biased?
All of the things you just said describe yamato also but he somehow isn't scummy to you. Hmm..
1. threw away his vote as well
2. did no scumhunting
3. said he would not change his vote no matter what
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On August 24 2013 02:34 Sn0_Man wrote:Show nested quote +On August 24 2013 02:24 VayneAuthority wrote:On August 24 2013 02:18 Sn0_Man wrote:
Its hard to read you as town when you did literally no scumhunting D1, threw away your vote on somebody who obviously wasn't getting lynched AND never even tried to convince others to lynch him, made no case on him beyond "well you voted me and I warned you I'll vote you back" and are now calling him "insanely scummy" still without further justification. And are implying that you have done your job and that it certainly couldn't be even a fraction your fault that we just lynched a powerful blue role.
I'd love to hear some reasons why yamato is scummy. Preferably compare/contrast them to A) a confirmed red check and B) Actively driving a mislynch for ~70 hours. whats the point of convincing you of anything when you are already too biased? All of the things you just said describe yamato also but he somehow isn't scummy to you. Hmm.. 1. threw away his vote as well 2. did no scumhunting 3. said he would not change his vote no matter what Yamato contributed more day 1. I really wish he didn't also play awfully by voting the way he did, but he isn't here claiming he did his job by OMGUSing. The very act of taking the initiative to vote for somebody of his own accord is better than just sitting there waiting for somebody to vote you so you can vote them back. I mean, you just listed what he did, said he did the same as you, and described him as insanely scummy. Also where did I call him "not scummy" I said nobody made a case on him including you. Really, I don't want to lynch you for at least 5 IRL days so I'm not sure why you are so convinced I'm biased against you.
andd checkmate. What alignment am I again when I look really scummy? Oh that's right, town.
why do you need a case so badly to decide of somebody is scum or not? Can't think on your own without sheeping a case to make yourself look decent?
Bias is pretty much the definition of my last post; you are arguing with me about what I am doing when yamato is doing the same exact thing then asking me why he is scummy? How does that make any sense?
Yamato contributing more is completely subjective so not even going to comment on that.
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On August 24 2013 02:48 Sn0_Man wrote:
@vayne Sorry, I don't have the time to comprehensively reread 14 people every time they post. I start with a read, and it develops as they post (yam looked town). If you wish to make me reconsider, make a case and if it looks promising I will re-evaluate that person completely via filter etc. Very simple.
Did you seriously just say that "When I'm Scummy that means I'm town"?
This from the guy that started the game with "Please don't judge me by meta but rather by actions" at the start of this game. I just quoted that post like last page.
Yamato contributing more is absolutely objective because he took any initiative whatsoever instead of sitting inside his castle waiting for somebody to come and attack him. He bothered to even call somebody scummy instead of literally "I warned you this would happen" and counter vote 0 argument.
You are free to contribute now though, and if you wish to do so then more power to you. If you achieve anything I'll get off your back.
How is that meta? It's a simple fact. Check any game I've ever played in. When nobody suspects me, I have been scum more often than not. When people say I look scummy I'm town because scum need to try and make garbage tier arguments on the less tryhard players since that's all they can really do.
Why do you care how we got to the end result? The fact of the matter is yamato did no more than me in getting a scum lynched yesterday, anything other than that is your completely biased opinion.
I'll contribute on my own grounds, until I know at least one scum there is very few people I trust right now
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