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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
August 20 2013 14:24 GMT
#310
Are there 3 or 4 scum.
hmm.

15 player game.
day 1 with 14 players.

lets say 3 mislynchs, town lose.
so day 3 its 10 players. 5-4-1?
that means scum win.
6-3-1.
nah.
7-4.
maybe.

Probably 4 scum and survivor
Or 3 scum and SK.

No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
August 20 2013 14:25 GMT
#311
On August 20 2013 23:24 Koshi wrote:
Meh, dnu if I should claim now or later. Actually wanted to claim with my first post but decided to wait a bit.

But I am the self aware miller guy.

Why didnt you claim in your first post? Why did you decide to wait 4 hours?
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
August 20 2013 14:27 GMT
#314
On August 20 2013 23:22 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2013 23:19 DarthPunk wrote:
On August 20 2013 23:17 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 20 2013 23:15 DarthPunk wrote:
On August 20 2013 23:13 Oatsmaster wrote:
So why would scum Rayn, at least 5 games further on from CCM, post that DP?

Because he wanted to say something and the easiest thing to say as scum is some stupid policy that everyone discuss' for pages and pages.

Like If he had just said 'oh yeah. I have learnt and have grown as a player and changed my mind' I would have dropped it. But he tried to align both positions and directly contradicts his previous position as justification for that position.

Did you look at Basterd mini mafia, which was between these games. Why not?


If that has some relevant info you should have posted THAT as your explanation. If you think I am going to look through all your games to answer a question for you, you are fucking retarded.

No, you asked me why i act differently in this game than in CCM. I explained it to you. Because of setup differences.
Then you call me out for "not learning and bla bla bla..", when i actually have already acted differently inbetween these games. If you are going to call me scum you need to get your facts straight.

Hold on Rayn.

You acted differently because different setups, not because you learned that CCM was the wrong way to go around doing this sorta shit.

So DP is right. Your explanation is not about you learning.
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
August 20 2013 14:27 GMT
#316
On August 20 2013 23:26 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2013 23:25 Oatsmaster wrote:
On August 20 2013 23:24 Koshi wrote:
Meh, dnu if I should claim now or later. Actually wanted to claim with my first post but decided to wait a bit.

But I am the self aware miller guy.

Why didnt you claim in your first post? Why did you decide to wait 4 hours?

I really didn't know if that was the best course of action.

So what changed your mind?
What were you thinking about? Why was it bad for you to claim in your first post and good for you to claim now?
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
August 20 2013 14:31 GMT
#324
On August 20 2013 23:30 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2013 23:27 Oatsmaster wrote:
On August 20 2013 23:26 Koshi wrote:
On August 20 2013 23:25 Oatsmaster wrote:
On August 20 2013 23:24 Koshi wrote:
Meh, dnu if I should claim now or later. Actually wanted to claim with my first post but decided to wait a bit.

But I am the self aware miller guy.

Why didnt you claim in your first post? Why did you decide to wait 4 hours?

I really didn't know if that was the best course of action.

So what changed your mind?
What were you thinking about? Why was it bad for you to claim in your first post and good for you to claim now?

Dnu, was thinking about it the entire time. But now seems like a good moment.

Answer the questions. There must be reasons.

"Dnu" not a reason.
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
August 20 2013 14:50 GMT
#347
On August 20 2013 23:47 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2013 23:43 Sn0_Man wrote:
Hows self-aware-miller breadcrumbing possible? There's no way. Koshi scumclaimed for absolutely no reason.
On August 20 2013 23:39 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Also let go of Koshi, he is town.

Somebody remind me whether its town or scum who know the alignment of all players at the start of the game.

Well, I just tried to make a lot of posts about the topic. Could have done it more obvious but I really had no clue if I should insta claim or wait it out a bit.

Come on Koshi.

Why didnt you claim at the start?
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
August 20 2013 14:56 GMT
#353
On August 20 2013 23:54 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2013 23:50 Oatsmaster wrote:
On August 20 2013 23:47 Koshi wrote:
On August 20 2013 23:43 Sn0_Man wrote:
Hows self-aware-miller breadcrumbing possible? There's no way. Koshi scumclaimed for absolutely no reason.
On August 20 2013 23:39 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Also let go of Koshi, he is town.

Somebody remind me whether its town or scum who know the alignment of all players at the start of the game.

Well, I just tried to make a lot of posts about the topic. Could have done it more obvious but I really had no clue if I should insta claim or wait it out a bit.

Come on Koshi.

Why didnt you claim at the start?

Because I didn't know if it was the right play. That's it. So simple. That's why I made the statement that selfaware millers should claim at start. To see what people would say.
I could also have said: "guys, do self-aware millers claim at start?" But that looked obvious.

no thats not what you were thinking. You were thinking how claiming could get you killed, or help scum or help town.

SPECIFICS KOSHI.

Not knowing if its the right play means that you were thinking about the DOWNSIDES OF CLAIMING.
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
August 20 2013 15:04 GMT
#364
rayn, this isnt about which way of approaching miller claims is right.

No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
August 20 2013 15:08 GMT
#368
On August 21 2013 00:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2013 00:04 Oatsmaster wrote:
rayn, this isnt about which way of approaching miller claims is right.


Yes i know. But that's the exact "defense" DP was assuming i would give as town.
What gives?

DP assumes you would say something like 'what I did in CCM was wrong'
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
August 20 2013 15:09 GMT
#369
Onegu really sheeping town sentiment.
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
August 20 2013 15:17 GMT
#379
Rayn, talk about Koshi.
Why would he not do it as scum, and what do you like about his explanation?
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
August 20 2013 15:22 GMT
#384
On August 21 2013 00:20 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2013 00:17 Oatsmaster wrote:
Rayn, talk about Koshi.
Why would he not do it as scum, and what do you like about his explanation?

This Koshi talking is somewhat boring. But I can answer that.
Because I don't call JK when 4 people are telling me to claim it. I am not going to claim something "under pressure" because 1 guy made a case. I simply won't do that. But even if I did it, you guys are seriously overreacting that this is a 100% scumclaim. Dnu how long you are going to keep hammering on it.

Um.
I dont see what the past game has ANYTHING to do with it, and I dont care about your explanation.
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
August 20 2013 15:23 GMT
#389
On August 21 2013 00:22 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I do not care to explain my townreads unless they are in danger of getting lynched.
Now excuse me, i'm gonna make a case on WoS.

So WoS can refuse to explain and thats a bad thing, but you can and we are supposed to accept it?

No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
August 20 2013 15:24 GMT
#391
Hey Sn0_Man, why is Koshi's claim a scumclaim?
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
August 20 2013 15:25 GMT
#393
On August 21 2013 00:23 Koshi wrote:
D: meanie!

Let me rephrase it.

What you have to say about your claim in terms of the scum side of things is not relevent to me.
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
August 20 2013 15:30 GMT
#398
So then he fakeclaimed as scum because he felt that on n0, 5 hours after the game started and 66 hours before we lynch someone, that the case by DP was undefendable.

I dunno Sn0_Man.
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
August 20 2013 15:34 GMT
#401
On August 21 2013 00:33 Sn0_Man wrote:
It doesn't make a ton of sense as scum but it makes even less sense for him to play the way he did as town. It simply isn't a reasonable play for a townie to make. I can see where a scum player would believe it was the right play.

so as town, you wouldve claimed miller immediately? Without any delay?
Why do you think Koshi is like you?
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
August 20 2013 15:40 GMT
#405
On August 21 2013 00:38 geript wrote:
Wait Oats is in this game. Lynch the fuck out of him.

<3 you too buddy.
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
August 20 2013 15:41 GMT
#406
On August 21 2013 00:39 Sn0_Man wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2013 00:34 Oatsmaster wrote:
On August 21 2013 00:33 Sn0_Man wrote:
It doesn't make a ton of sense as scum but it makes even less sense for him to play the way he did as town. It simply isn't a reasonable play for a townie to make. I can see where a scum player would believe it was the right play.

so as town, you wouldve claimed miller immediately? Without any delay?
Why do you think Koshi is like you?

Because the thread had happily agreed that SAM claims immediately, a conclusion that Koshi contributed to and supported. It has nothing to do with him being like me.

Ur annoying to play with oats you don't think too much before getting in everybody's face and clouding the thread with shit slinging.

I know its how you play town (hasn't changed since Newbie 36 or w/e) but its still annoying.

I dont know how you got to the second part, but ok.
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
August 20 2013 16:05 GMT
#419
how pissed while you be if WoS flips town Rayn?
No gg, No skill.
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