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On August 22 2013 06:04 WaveofShadow wrote:
Why do you think this Vayne?
Also speaking of alignment comparisons, reading Sn0 got me thinking about Rayn and Koshi.
I sincerely doubt that they are both scum considering Koshi has been basically playing the part of Rayn's lickspittle all game.
I really want to see what Sn0 has to say when he comes back.
Not something worth revealing yet. Helps scum more than it helps town atm.
@mkfuba
in roulette you said you like to play a defensive game as town.
Why in this game do you feel the need to be very aggressive?
your play resembles basterd mini a lot more than roulette right now so I was just wondering what's going on.
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On August 22 2013 06:07 mkfuba07 wrote:
Yeah, I understood. It's just that if he's a really good town player (he plays well as town), then it makes sense to phrase it the way kush did. It could be interpreted as kush knowing that DP is the strongest of the town players, and slipped up, but at that point it's a coin flip in interpretations for me.
Precisely, just something worth noting but I wouldn't toss it in the trash.
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On August 22 2013 06:22 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On August 22 2013 06:08 VayneAuthority wrote:On August 22 2013 06:04 WaveofShadow wrote:
Why do you think this Vayne?
Also speaking of alignment comparisons, reading Sn0 got me thinking about Rayn and Koshi.
I sincerely doubt that they are both scum considering Koshi has been basically playing the part of Rayn's lickspittle all game.
I really want to see what Sn0 has to say when he comes back. Not something worth revealing yet. Helps scum more than it helps town atm. @mkfuba in roulette you said you like to play a defensive game as town. Why in this game do you feel the need to be very aggressive? your play resembles basterd mini a lot more than roulette right now so I was just wondering what's going on. Is this your promised 'D2 town reveal?' About fooba dooba: I agree that his activity and posting resembles that of Basterd, but I wouldn't call his play aggressive in the slightest. What has been aggressive about it?
No it's not a "big play" or anything, it's just if I make it to day 2 it's very unlikely I will be lynched since that's when I start to put the pieces together. That is something different entirely that honestly only serves to aid mafia in manipulating me while town just being like "ok w/e nobody cares"
It's aggressive because he is well...being aggressive? he's actively going after people and voting extremely early. In roulette he would basically only post when somebody called him scum or something.
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On August 22 2013 09:21 yamato77 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 22 2013 09:17 WaveofShadow wrote:On August 22 2013 09:15 Rainbows wrote:On August 22 2013 09:12 WaveofShadow wrote:On August 22 2013 09:10 Rainbows wrote:Reading this post (linked) actually makes me think Yamato is town. Why? Decently easy as scum to come up with a lot of shit on a lot of people. But he doesn't have to make that post as scum. He can just let the shitfest between you and Rayn continue and say nothing provided you both are town. He also has a level of pissoffery that I don't associate with scum typically. The context you stated certainly makes sense, the tone of the post is fairly easy to replicate as scum. Yamato, I still want to know who you want to lynch today. I'm leaning toward lynching Vayne. I've been waiting for him to become more involved in the thread but it just hasn't happened. His sideline commentary is easy to do as scum. He's also overly preoccupied with thinking that you are 3P. I have yet to see him become engaged with the thread and attempt to push any sort of scumread, quite unlike most of the people who have been considered today as lynch candidates.
yamato bro, that was your first fake case in sicilian mafia too against VE.
On July 16 2013 16:27 yamato77 wrote:
Instead of attempting to interact with anyone, VE is content passing judgment from the sidelines about the interaction between DH and VA. This sort of voting in line with the sway of the thread (as both FT and VA were suspicious of DH) is a trait that I've seen mafia VE pull in games past. It's also worth noting that VE voting for DH for "throwing shit" at VA when VE has no opinion of VA is quite a ridiculous idea. This sort of bullshit reasoning is something that cannot be tolerated, and smells of mafia drumming up a reason to slap a vote on a player already under fire.
Surely you didn't think I wouldn't notice that?
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Like there's zero reason for any town player to be throwing shit on me right now. I'm not even close to being up for lynch discussion and all it serves to do is throw around suspicion to support later lynches and confuse town more to serve the scum agenda.
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well im glad to lynch sno man now. He's going out of his way to try and lynch people that nobody else is suspicious of, of course you want us lynched. We are in the confirmed town stratosphere LOL.
##vote: sn0_man
trying way too hard to push scum agenda.
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my favorite part is where he calls my post horrible right after I demolshed yamato's awful case by showing that he uses that tactic to make dumb cases as scum all the time.
excellent mate.
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On August 23 2013 02:30 Koshi wrote:
VA I am actually considering going back to WoS. I was just typing something up. How are you on WoS?
same place I always was, he hasn't done anything to convince me that he hasn't rolled survivor yet. Not sold on him being scum.
notice how he tries to defuse situations and seems to be working alone. He simply doesn't want to die which is what he accuses me for often. I don't see him ever play like that as town.
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On August 23 2013 02:33 Sn0_Man wrote:
My favourite part was how Vayne's tactic this game is to instantly attack and vote for anybody who so much as mentions him in a negative manner.
Yea we already know, you posted that in your last post. less repetitive ad hom attacks would be great.
Why as town would you do that then when you know how I'm going to react? how is that pro-town at all?
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On August 23 2013 02:43 Sn0_Man wrote:Show nested quote +On August 23 2013 02:35 VayneAuthority wrote:On August 23 2013 02:33 Sn0_Man wrote:
My favourite part was how Vayne's tactic this game is to instantly attack and vote for anybody who so much as mentions him in a negative manner. Yea we already know, you posted that in your last post. less repetitive ad hom attacks would be great. Why as town would you do that then when you know how I'm going to react? how is that pro-town at all? How is it remotely acceptable or town motivated to say "I'm untouchable anybody who attacks me is scum"? Thats easily a scum-favoured atmosphere to create. There was no ad-hominem, I'm commenting on the terribleness of your play. Scum-hunting, in fact. Something you MAY wish to attempt (you haven't started yet I notice). K maybe now there is ad-hom.
There was always ad hom. You didn't even answer any of my questions.
yawn, vote stays. Stop trying to cast suspicion on every little thing and focus on things that can actually happen, otherwise you just look like scum to me trying to cause chaos.
Apparently you don't understand the difference between me being under heat and it being acceptable to question me and simply trying to throw shit at me for the sake of it when its completely pointless. The first is town motivated, the second is not!
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On August 23 2013 02:53 Sn0_Man wrote:
Wat? So your plan is "Nobody suspects me. Therefore I'm untouchable. As soon as somebody suspects me, they are scum since they were the first!".
In other words, nobody is ever allowed to suspect you. This is incredibly pointless. You still have yet to meaningfully contribute, all you have done is sit around, call WoS 3rd party (carefully avoiding angering anybody who thinks he is scum OR town) and then instantly attacking both yamato and now me as soon as we mention your name. Literally the only people you have attacked are people who just mentioned you...
You have steadfastly NOT contributed to the game.
that's your opinion that I frankly don't care about too much now. Nothing to see here if you're just going to repeat the same thing over and over.
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On August 23 2013 02:52 raynpelikoneet wrote:
vayne, why do you think WoS is exactly 3p. I mean, i know why you think so, but is it impossible for him to be mafia? Why?
Unless he has drastically changed his play, this doesn't look like les mis (where I was scum with him) nor does it look like his endless amount of town games. As scum he looked really town and cared a lot about what people thought about him. As town he always fights tooth and nail and isn't this passive.
Throw in how he played in basterd ( didn't give a fuck because he didn't want to get night killed and then could fight lynches retroactively if things were looking bad during daytime)
Does this not look like that?
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On August 23 2013 02:58 Sn0_Man wrote:
I mean, its fine to get mad at people who actively try to deflect lynches off of whoever you think is scum. Especially if you have done anything that might make people think you are town. And if you have campaigned for the lynch of somebody you believe is scum. However, you don't have a scum candidate to lynch. And you haven't helped weed out any scum. And you haven't campaigned at all (okay admittedly I haven't really either).
However, I'm not deflecting the lynch off of anybody (Unless you can point to somebody who you think is getting lynched with 2 votes on them), and you haven't even made a case on me. You solely voted for me because I called you out. And you freely admit that. W. T. F.
Ok really dude you've posted the same thing basically 5 times now. Enough.
@everyone else Scum panicking or flustered town?
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If you can find a decent reason why you would post this
On August 23 2013 01:22 Sn0_Man wrote:I wish Vayne/Tofu/Yamato would post more. All 3 are hypothetically solid mafia players as far as I know and they are at 2 page filters with little/no contribution. I'd be inclined to vote some pressure on to one of them if there was much to decide between the 3... Also Vayne's last post was painful: Show nested quote +On August 22 2013 11:24 VayneAuthority wrote:
Like there's zero reason for any town player to be throwing shit on me right now. I'm not even close to being up for lynch discussion and all it serves to do is throw around suspicion to support later lynches and confuse town more to serve the scum agenda. Its like a pre-emptive OMGUS. Anybody who calls attention to him is automatically acting in scum's interests or something. PS Kush why the 180 on tofu? I didn't really get your reasoning...
Then right after you posted that, you go and post this
On August 23 2013 02:12 Sn0_Man wrote:
NVM I lied yamato is doing stuff and I agree with practically everything he is saying o.O
I'm happy with a Vayne/FT lynch though current preference is FT.
Also still want to lynch Koshi but nobody else really does. Also I want to lynch rayn but I think that's because he is annoying. hard to tell.
and find yourself back at this
On August 23 2013 02:33 Sn0_Man wrote:
My favourite part was how Vayne's tactic this game is to instantly attack and vote for anybody who so much as mentions him in a negative manner.
I don't see what you hope to gain out of this as town. You know what's going to happen, I'm going to be annoyed at you, and you KNOWINGLY pursue that to fuck with town. Show me in any way how this is pro town and hell, ill vote for myself LOL
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On August 23 2013 03:22 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On August 23 2013 03:01 VayneAuthority wrote:On August 23 2013 02:52 raynpelikoneet wrote:
vayne, why do you think WoS is exactly 3p. I mean, i know why you think so, but is it impossible for him to be mafia? Why? Unless he has drastically changed his play, this doesn't look like les mis (where I was scum with him) nor does it look like his endless amount of town games. As scum he looked really town and cared a lot about what people thought about him. As town he always fights tooth and nail and isn't this passive. Throw in how he played in basterd ( didn't give a fuck because he didn't want to get night killed and then could fight lynches retroactively if things were looking bad during daytime) Does this not look like that? I disagree with your meta-read. In Les Mis WoS was evenly cocky as in this game. That's something he lacks as town, especially early on in the game. There are also some charactreristics that repeats when he is scum but never when he is town. When (argueably) the strongest player posts the first time he goes "Hey X, thoughts on...?". One thing that always happens when he is town but never when he is scum is "Policy lynch vayne".
I could give him one more phase, it's not like he can get away with just not posting. He has to do stuff eventually.
What are you thinking about yamato right now? geript?
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On August 23 2013 09:13 yamato77 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 22 2013 11:21 VayneAuthority wrote:On August 22 2013 09:21 yamato77 wrote:On August 22 2013 09:17 WaveofShadow wrote:On August 22 2013 09:15 Rainbows wrote:On August 22 2013 09:12 WaveofShadow wrote:On August 22 2013 09:10 Rainbows wrote:Reading this post (linked) actually makes me think Yamato is town. Why? Decently easy as scum to come up with a lot of shit on a lot of people. But he doesn't have to make that post as scum. He can just let the shitfest between you and Rayn continue and say nothing provided you both are town. He also has a level of pissoffery that I don't associate with scum typically. The context you stated certainly makes sense, the tone of the post is fairly easy to replicate as scum. Yamato, I still want to know who you want to lynch today. I'm leaning toward lynching Vayne. I've been waiting for him to become more involved in the thread but it just hasn't happened. His sideline commentary is easy to do as scum. He's also overly preoccupied with thinking that you are 3P. I have yet to see him become engaged with the thread and attempt to push any sort of scumread, quite unlike most of the people who have been considered today as lynch candidates. yamato bro, that was your first fake case in sicilian mafia too against VE. On July 16 2013 16:27 yamato77 wrote:
Instead of attempting to interact with anyone, VE is content passing judgment from the sidelines about the interaction between DH and VA. This sort of voting in line with the sway of the thread (as both FT and VA were suspicious of DH) is a trait that I've seen mafia VE pull in games past. It's also worth noting that VE voting for DH for "throwing shit" at VA when VE has no opinion of VA is quite a ridiculous idea. This sort of bullshit reasoning is something that cannot be tolerated, and smells of mafia drumming up a reason to slap a vote on a player already under fire. Surely you didn't think I wouldn't notice that? So because one line is somewhat similar, it's the same case? Not even close. You've been scummy because you're doing fuck-all. I created a case on VE through false-meta pretenses. The two are literally incomparable. Your follow-up to this is to vote Sn0 in line with thread sentiment, lolol. And you want me to believe that you're honestly scumhunting.
That one line is your entire case in conjunction with the meta stuff so yea that is your case pretty much in a nut shell.
I was the first person to vote for sn0_man
more bullshit please l0L. time to pick a new target because you know I don't take shit
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On August 23 2013 09:19 yamato77 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 23 2013 09:16 VayneAuthority wrote:On August 23 2013 09:13 yamato77 wrote:On August 22 2013 11:21 VayneAuthority wrote:On August 22 2013 09:21 yamato77 wrote:On August 22 2013 09:17 WaveofShadow wrote:On August 22 2013 09:15 Rainbows wrote:On August 22 2013 09:12 WaveofShadow wrote:On August 22 2013 09:10 Rainbows wrote:Reading this post (linked) actually makes me think Yamato is town. Why? Decently easy as scum to come up with a lot of shit on a lot of people. But he doesn't have to make that post as scum. He can just let the shitfest between you and Rayn continue and say nothing provided you both are town. He also has a level of pissoffery that I don't associate with scum typically. The context you stated certainly makes sense, the tone of the post is fairly easy to replicate as scum. Yamato, I still want to know who you want to lynch today. I'm leaning toward lynching Vayne. I've been waiting for him to become more involved in the thread but it just hasn't happened. His sideline commentary is easy to do as scum. He's also overly preoccupied with thinking that you are 3P. I have yet to see him become engaged with the thread and attempt to push any sort of scumread, quite unlike most of the people who have been considered today as lynch candidates. yamato bro, that was your first fake case in sicilian mafia too against VE. On July 16 2013 16:27 yamato77 wrote:
Instead of attempting to interact with anyone, VE is content passing judgment from the sidelines about the interaction between DH and VA. This sort of voting in line with the sway of the thread (as both FT and VA were suspicious of DH) is a trait that I've seen mafia VE pull in games past. It's also worth noting that VE voting for DH for "throwing shit" at VA when VE has no opinion of VA is quite a ridiculous idea. This sort of bullshit reasoning is something that cannot be tolerated, and smells of mafia drumming up a reason to slap a vote on a player already under fire. Surely you didn't think I wouldn't notice that? So because one line is somewhat similar, it's the same case? Not even close. You've been scummy because you're doing fuck-all. I created a case on VE through false-meta pretenses. The two are literally incomparable. Your follow-up to this is to vote Sn0 in line with thread sentiment, lolol. And you want me to believe that you're honestly scumhunting. That one line is your entire case in conjunction with the meta stuff so yea that is your case pretty much in a nut shell. I was the first person to vote for sn0_manmore bullshit please l0L. time to pick a new target because you know I don't take shit Literally meaningless. Everyone and their mom had Sn0 as scum. Being the hipster vote does not make it any less in line with thread sentiment. And no, I used zero meta in my read on you. You yourself said it was useless. You're CLASSICALLY scum, in that you are not being proactive about anything and have literally flown under everyone's scumdars the whole game except MINE.
Saying somebody is scum and actually voting for them are two completely different things. One is for show, one affects the game.
Please find a game where I'm proactive day 1, ill be waiting
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On August 23 2013 09:26 yamato77 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 23 2013 09:23 VayneAuthority wrote:On August 23 2013 09:19 yamato77 wrote:On August 23 2013 09:16 VayneAuthority wrote:On August 23 2013 09:13 yamato77 wrote:On August 22 2013 11:21 VayneAuthority wrote:On August 22 2013 09:21 yamato77 wrote:On August 22 2013 09:17 WaveofShadow wrote:On August 22 2013 09:15 Rainbows wrote:On August 22 2013 09:12 WaveofShadow wrote:
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Why?
Decently easy as scum to come up with a lot of shit on a lot of people. But he doesn't have to make that post as scum. He can just let the shitfest between you and Rayn continue and say nothing provided you both are town. He also has a level of pissoffery that I don't associate with scum typically. The context you stated certainly makes sense, the tone of the post is fairly easy to replicate as scum. Yamato, I still want to know who you want to lynch today. I'm leaning toward lynching Vayne. I've been waiting for him to become more involved in the thread but it just hasn't happened. His sideline commentary is easy to do as scum. He's also overly preoccupied with thinking that you are 3P. I have yet to see him become engaged with the thread and attempt to push any sort of scumread, quite unlike most of the people who have been considered today as lynch candidates. yamato bro, that was your first fake case in sicilian mafia too against VE. On July 16 2013 16:27 yamato77 wrote:
Instead of attempting to interact with anyone, VE is content passing judgment from the sidelines about the interaction between DH and VA. This sort of voting in line with the sway of the thread (as both FT and VA were suspicious of DH) is a trait that I've seen mafia VE pull in games past. It's also worth noting that VE voting for DH for "throwing shit" at VA when VE has no opinion of VA is quite a ridiculous idea. This sort of bullshit reasoning is something that cannot be tolerated, and smells of mafia drumming up a reason to slap a vote on a player already under fire. Surely you didn't think I wouldn't notice that? So because one line is somewhat similar, it's the same case? Not even close. You've been scummy because you're doing fuck-all. I created a case on VE through false-meta pretenses. The two are literally incomparable. Your follow-up to this is to vote Sn0 in line with thread sentiment, lolol. And you want me to believe that you're honestly scumhunting. That one line is your entire case in conjunction with the meta stuff so yea that is your case pretty much in a nut shell. I was the first person to vote for sn0_manmore bullshit please l0L. time to pick a new target because you know I don't take shit Literally meaningless. Everyone and their mom had Sn0 as scum. Being the hipster vote does not make it any less in line with thread sentiment. And no, I used zero meta in my read on you. You yourself said it was useless. You're CLASSICALLY scum, in that you are not being proactive about anything and have literally flown under everyone's scumdars the whole game except MINE. Saying somebody is scum and actually voting for them are two completely different things. One is for show, one affects the game. Please find a game where I'm proactive day 1, ill be waiting The old "I do this as town AND scum" defense. Too good.
upset that it crumbles your entire case? Seriously look elsewhere. As long as I'm not sleeping you're wasting your breath(or fingers or whatever)
he's not proactive! ---> never proactive day1 ---> he defended my case, better personally attack him!
hu3
sick static reads btw, I'm glad none of your opinions have changed while you read the thread. Did you enjoy RNG'ing your scumreads and picking out random comments to throw shit on?
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On August 23 2013 09:28 yamato77 wrote:
Anyway, there's really nothing you can say to deter me.
I'll be waiting for others to sheep me as you cry in the corner.
it's a challenge then
##unvote
##vote: yamato77
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By that same token, you are mafia yamato. No real pressure this game yet.
Yamato's case
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