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On August 20 2013 23:28 raynpelikoneet wrote: Why would Koshi freak out if we both were scum? Because DP is accusing him for nothing? This guy next. INherent fucking guilt. | ||
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On August 20 2013 23:39 raynpelikoneet wrote: Your case is debunked from Basterd mini mafia where i immediately asked all millers to claim (we knew there was 0-2 millers). So why didn't you say you had learned in the first place?!?! without all these previous explanations. The fucking backflips continue. Now you are altering your entire argument and the whole premise of your original explanation is quickly dismissed in favor of when that isn't flagrantly fallacious. | ||
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On August 20 2013 23:36 Koshi wrote: I just wanted to wait a bit and now feels like a good time to claim. Also with the case on me I thought it would be more obvious. I should breadcrumb a bit better. Let's see: I was thinking the same. Was thinking I should claim with my role. Kinda asking the thread if I should claim or not. You make me feel better :D I wanted to roll town but this role was looking silly. But still better than scum. Also, now that I know I have to claim it is maybe not too horrible. about the self-aware miller (survivor can fuck off) ^ should have been my response to rayn in the first place. ________________ take it or leave it. This is not a breadcrumb. | ||
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On August 20 2013 23:44 raynpelikoneet wrote: Holy fuck, is DP scum aswell? You got fucking caught with ridiculous reasoning and backflipping. Now you can't argue that you didn't 100% backflip and then tried to justify it with fallacious and ever changing arguments you pull out the OMGUS. | ||
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He had to go look for a breadcrumb ffs. Which was just posts of him SAYING MILLERS SHOULD INSTA CLAIM. I have no fucking idea how rayn could possibly think he is town. or that anyone would ever give him the benefit of the doubt. | ||
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On August 20 2013 23:53 raynpelikoneet wrote: You should probably make a case then. Be sure to read our arguments in this game though. Be also sure to adress the following games as your case is based on meta: LXI, CCM, Basterd, 4 Persona. I give you a hint, 2 first are alike, and 2 last are alike. I have made a case. Also don't tell me what to do. K thnks. The setup changes nothing about your arguments and the manner in which they contradict the very premise you were defending. you are trying to make this about meta. it is not. It is about you directly contradicting yourself. For no foreseeable reason. I'm done with you 'input' I am happy to talk to others about it. | ||
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That isn't what you originally said. IN fact that is the kind of response I expected. But you made some bullshit arguments instead which directly contradicted yourself and only started bringing in further "clarifications' which were in fact entirely new argument because your original explanation was so bad. Regardless I am interested in other things right now and this conversation is no longer productive. | ||
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On August 21 2013 00:05 raynpelikoneet wrote: Yes i know. But that's the exact "defense" DP was assuming i would give as town. What gives? I was expecting a reasonable explanation rather than a fallacious one. | ||
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On August 21 2013 00:10 raynpelikoneet wrote: Now if you are town go find real scum, like WoS. That isn't what you originally said. IN FACT YOU NEVER ORIGINALLY MENTIONED IT AT ALL. I was clearly talking about your ORIGINAL EXPLANATION so why the fuck you think trying to twist the conversation is going to help you is beyond me. | ||
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Why is Koshi town? Why did you call me scum? | ||
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On August 21 2013 00:13 raynpelikoneet wrote: Because BEFORE YOU EVEN CALLED ME OUT FOR MY ORIGINAL EXPLANATION i wanted to CLARIFY IT AS I REALIZED IT MIGHT BE MISUNDERSTOOD. Am i being clear enough? It wasn't misunderstood. It was complete bullshit. So you tried to change your explanation. Because it was complete bullshit. Why is Koshi town? | ||
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On August 21 2013 00:16 raynpelikoneet wrote: Because Koshi would not claim miller as scum. I am pretty sure of it, at least now. I like his explanation. I called you scum because you are not even willing to investigate the WoS matter. He is clearly mafia as he is avoiding answering questions -> not wanting to prove his towniness. I'd rather wait on WoS as I said to oates. Explain why Koshi would not claim miller. What about his explanation do you like? Do you think it makes sense for koshi to repeatedly call for millers to claim and then to not claim? Is this a meta read? if so could you link me to a relevant game? | ||
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On August 21 2013 00:20 Koshi wrote: This Koshi talking is somewhat boring. But I can answer that. Because I don't call JK when 4 people are telling me to claim it. I am not going to claim something "under pressure" because 1 guy made a case. I simply won't do that. But even if I did it, you guys are seriously overreacting that this is a 100% scumclaim. Dnu how long you are going to keep hammering on it. It is a 90% scumclaim | ||
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On August 21 2013 00:22 raynpelikoneet wrote: I do not care to explain my townreads unless they are in danger of getting lynched. Now excuse me, i'm gonna make a case on WoS. You are fucking out of your mind if you think koshi isn't getting lynched. Why you not talking Rayn? Townies love to talk. Maybe you aren't a townie. IN fact. Since when do townies flat out refuse to discuss their townreads that just claimed miller? | ||
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On August 21 2013 00:23 raynpelikoneet wrote: Oh but i can reference this. Last game Koshi did not fakeclaim Jailkeeper when he was under serious pressure from BOTH town AND his scumbuddies. A fake jailkeeper claim is FAR more complicated than a miller claim. Take it from someone who solo'd a scum win off the back of a fake Jailkeeper claim. | ||
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On August 21 2013 00:42 raynpelikoneet wrote: The thing is people are accusing Koshi of fakeclaiming here, now, because "he is in fear of getting lynched for it". You do not know the jailkeeper situation, at all. In the last game townie claimed a watcher who had watched 2 people visit a roleblocked townie and if those two people did not claim, we would lynch them. One guy claimed medic (reasonable), another one was either roleblocker or JK. We were screaming to Koshi in mafia QT "fuck you, why are you trying to throw the game, the only way you can survive is to claim JK". Koshi kept his head calm and said "no way i am claiming, the dude is fakeclaiming watcher". He was fakeclaiming. Does this sound like a dude who being called out for something in his couple of first posts would panic as scum and fakeclaim miller? He said that the miller should claim countless times. He then does not claim miller until much later whilst under duress and with a shit "breadcrumb" despite being active in the thread. He was an already scummy player. With a suspect as fuck miller claim. And a breadcrumb that was obviously looked for after the claim. It is possible that he was just retarded townie. But unless a better option presents itself. (which I do not believe is WoS atm) he dies. | ||
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He has my hypothetical vote until he gives an answer to both the original question, butt more importantly explains his avoidance discussing it. | ||
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Rainbows could be scum from the way he entered the thread. Watching closely. | ||
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