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On August 24 2013 04:11 Sn0_Man wrote:
The game I replaced into I was trying to get anybody but my last remaining (and incidentally incredibly scummy and mostly AFK) scumbuddy lynched lol. The game was already solved when I subbed in, but I did what I could. Absolutely no relation to this game. If you think that I was doing what I could to save WoS, you are right but in this case it was for a "townbuddy" if you will.
PS hows rayn allowed to make association cases re yamato atm?
Why are you so defensive here? I am the mafia guy remember?
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On August 24 2013 04:15 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On August 24 2013 04:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 24 2013 04:06 Oatsmaster wrote:
I dont think the not noticing parity cop can check 2 people on the same night is alignment indicative.
i dunno about fuba.
Well the thing with me as sn0, is that he is doing a lotta stupid shit for what seems to be no reason. Oats, mafia does read the OP carefully so that they know how to best use their roles. If i flip non-miller i can guarantee you Koshi was framed, that's so beneficial to mafia. Like have every possible parity cop check worng if they check the miller. (That's why you should have checked yourself WoS and not Koshi :E). I would assume parity cop is like in every single game ive seen it in. I wouldve done the same thing as scum.
See me flipping non-miller town this night, that will prove you wrong.
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Also Oats, even if you would do that as scum not everyone would. That's 100% been discussed in scumchat.
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On August 24 2013 04:22 Sn0_Man wrote:? I answer accusations made against me. Please excuse me for that. Meanwhile rayn is admitting that he does exactly what he is doing this game as scum... Show nested quote +On August 24 2013 04:04 raynpelikoneet wrote:
No it's not. I do that as mafia all the time Regarding "being certain people are scum" Iunno, nobody but me even reads rayn remotely critically despite the events of the last 2 days and WoS's mislynch.
Yes Sno i do that as scum. I also do that as town. Why would you not do same things when you are scum than when you are town? Are you as scum like... trying to prove people you are scum?
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On August 24 2013 04:36 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On August 24 2013 04:22 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 24 2013 04:15 Oatsmaster wrote:On August 24 2013 04:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 24 2013 04:06 Oatsmaster wrote:
I dont think the not noticing parity cop can check 2 people on the same night is alignment indicative.
i dunno about fuba.
Well the thing with me as sn0, is that he is doing a lotta stupid shit for what seems to be no reason. Oats, mafia does read the OP carefully so that they know how to best use their roles. If i flip non-miller i can guarantee you Koshi was framed, that's so beneficial to mafia. Like have every possible parity cop check worng if they check the miller. (That's why you should have checked yourself WoS and not Koshi :E). I would assume parity cop is like in every single game ive seen it in. I wouldve done the same thing as scum. See me flipping non-miller town this night, that will prove you wrong. I meant the 'same thing' as assuming that parity cop works the same as other games.
I meant if fuba is scum he would 100% know how parity cop works as it has been discussed 100% in scum QT.
The question is would he fake not knowing it on D1? I think not.
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On August 24 2013 04:37 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On August 24 2013 04:25 Koshi wrote:On August 24 2013 04:14 Oatsmaster wrote:On August 24 2013 04:08 Koshi wrote:
The snowman should not be on the lynchlist tomorrow imo. Because it is very unlikely that rayn would be in a team with him.
Take a target that would work with rayn and the Snowman and is scummy. if you think rayn is so scum, why dont you want to just kill rayn tmr? Nope everything in my head says that rayn is town. But the Snowman. I don't really want to lynch him in case my head is wrong. Can't we find other scummy people? huuuuuuuhh??????? So rayn is town, and therefore you dont want to lynch sn0man because he is definetely not on the scumteam with rayn? What?
He means if his head is wrong about me. That would make Sno town (if i was mafia).
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Snoman, you seem to be sure i am mafia.
Why are you not here telling people we should be lynching me instead of yamato if a vigi does not shoot me?
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I have provided a lot of reasons why yamato is mafia.
So your statement is not true.
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Bad meta-case from johnny which basically says nothing. johnny how does my play this game differ from my town games? If you are going to use meta do that research aswell. How am i acting different from my town games. This seems for you the only reason to think i am scum (GoT play). You should strengthen your argument by saying i do that stuff as scum, but not as town, if you can show that as true then it becomes valid. Can you do that?
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I definitely did not tunnel WoS on D1. I focused mostly on other stuff. You were voting for him too. If you didn't think he was mafia at the end of D1 why did your vote end up on him then? And is it now suddenly my and only my fault that he was town? I understand you were not here before you replaced geript, but still... It's pretty cheap to say it's entirely my fault we mislynched.
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I was very transparent on D1 kush. I gave WoS a chance. He did not take it. He didn't do anything, at all. I was looking onto other people and was willing to lynch Sno for a long time.
My case on yamato is in my filter, right before the end of D1. I'll make a post before deadline where i post my scumreads if you are too lazy to look it up. Now i am pretty tired as it's soon 4 AM.
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yamato's scumplay and townplay is different like day and night in case you haven't noticed...
now sleep.
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Actually i think FirmTofu and Oats are mafia.
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FirmTofu thinks both me and Koshi are town, yet he is worried about the thread cluttering up on D2 if i am not getting shot. He thinks i am town regardless of the check, says we should ignore the check, but then he is okay with lynching me if i do not get shot. Covering all the bases
-> if i get shot, he looks good
-> if i do not get shot, cool, let's lynch him
Oats as mafia is more willing to follow the thread sentiment than as town. He had a firm town read on WoS, yet he voted for him "because of the unvote". Oats NEVER does that as town. In NWM (scum) he asked the right questions from Ace N1, he surely did get what i was after. When D2 came and other people did not get mycase on Ace, Oats dropped the whole matter. Oats as town votes his scumreads and doesn't give a fuck who else thinks they are scum. It's not his actions, as he questions his scummates as well, it's his true actions (where his vote is and why). This doesn't look like Oats is doing his own stuff. Now he has biggest scumreads on yamato, sno. If i get vigged look if he pursues them and how. Because he should. This is not a strong read, but i am leaning mafia on him.
I think yamato is scum for his "i'll tell you the right things when it's too late" attitude. I already called him out on this D1. He was not willing to stop the shitfest between me & WoS. He did say "stop", but he never gave any reasons for it. That's fishy as at that point there was a voice of reason (DP) alive. He just wanted the thing go on. D1 he gives some reasoning for it. Me & WoS fight goes on, what does yamato do when he gets back? He gets into an argument with vayne (doomed to fail either way) and does not comment on ANYTHING ELSE going on in game. It's like "hey guys i came back to shit the thread for some, but i don't really want to push this town to right track, while i think rayn&WoS are both town, i'll just them continue on their rant".
Sno still looks bad, for like everything.
another possibilities are johnny (mainly because of geript) & Rainbows (weak read, but still).
Hope you guys figure it out, and i propose you lynch yamato.
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I don't think you did really try to convince anyone. You havn't really engaded into ANY discussion in this game besides telling vayne is mafia. Your only scumread in this game has been vayne. You have never really tried to get him lynched. The "WoS is 3p" argument you first brought up on him is bullshit, even if vayne was mafia. Who else do you think is scum?
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Another thing i would like you to explain. Why do you have such a strong town read on me? Because your reason was "he is too batshit insane to be scum". That is extremely weak reasoning knowing you have just played a scumgame with me. johnnywup was right on that, this game looks a lot like my play in GoT, but then again, it does look like my town games aswell. How can you possibly have a townread on me based on what i did on N0? To me it makes no sense.
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So let's talk. What do you think of what i wrote on FT & oats?
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