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On August 26 2013 21:35 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I have concluded that yamato, FirmTofu and one of johnnywup/Sn0_man are mafia:
This is mostly due to process of elimination. I don't think there is any chance of mkfuba or Koshi to be scum. I do not think kushmasta is scum. Rainbows is probably town because of the following. In our newbie game Rainbows was inactive at the start of the game. When he finally got in thread, the first thing he did was to check scum QT for what is going on. I do not think he would do this "lol you can't be cop, lynch rayn!" if he was mafia, he would have checked the scum QT first and he would see how stupid his accusation on me is. vayne if you are town i suggest you pick your game up because you are another questionmark, although johnnywup and Snodude look a lot worse than you do, and yamato is accusing you.
FirmTofu did consider Snoman as a lynch over Onegu. There were 2 candidates who could have been possibly lynched over Onegu last day. They were yamato and Rainbows. FirmTofu said nothing about them, and when i brought up Rainbows he went over his filter and voted for him in the end. When Onegu corrected me and said yamato is actually the only one we can get a lynch on, FirmTofu left. He did not even look at who were realisticly possible to lynch, and when we got our shit together with Onegu, he left.
Snodude wasted his vote. totally. This added to his play before makes him very likely mafia. johnnywup's reasons for voting on D2 are horrible. geript was scummy. Very likely mafia. snodude and yamato do not address each other like ever.. yamato soft pushed Sno, who has been looking scummy all game, but does notthing to question him, does nothing to find out his alignment. yamato also has not even tried to lead the town into any direction. He just comments on some things going on into the game, makes some random comments that do not help the town at all, does not try to push any lynches for real, does not defend/attack anyone. He is a definition of blending in.
Pick from those guys on D3. i'd say FirmTofu and yamato are definitely scum. Then one of johnnywup / Snoman. I'd place my bets on Sno over johnny.
This is the only reason why I think VA is town.
VA can you make 1 effort and tell us why Johnny or Mr Snowman are scum?
Tell me your 2 main suspects.
plz plz plz plz plz plz
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i got nothin' I just know I'm not scum and that johnny has pretty much been non-existant in this game.
ill actually go through the filters and figure out wtf is going on if johnny isn't the last scum.
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O.0
Mr "confirmed town" on day 2 is a baddie.
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If it isn't you it is Rainbows or the Snowman.
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Rainbows can win if he is scum.
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I was town to the people that mattered, but they all dead now.probably the only reason you are kept alive right now is ur tunnel on me. fuba is dead tonight
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The Snowman can't because of his horrible day 1 and 2.
Arfff am I going to need to reread that?
DDDDDDDDDDD:
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I am kept alive because I am awesome and everybody loves me.
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##Vote: 24 Hour Day-Cycle
I'm still not sure who the last scum is, but I'll try to have some thoughts down before the daypost.
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Endgame ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/09IoEuB.png)
Enemy shadow has fled!
johnnywup + Show Spoiler +as a Standard Shadow has conceded!
Rainbows + Show Spoiler +as Marie has won for surviving!
Sn0_Man + Show Spoiler +as a Citizen of Inaba has won!
VayneAuthority + Show Spoiler +as a Citizen of Inaba has won!
Koshi + Show Spoiler +as a Kanji Tatsumi (Self-Aware Miller) has won!
mkfuba07 + Show Spoiler +as Chie Satonaka (One-Shot Vigilante) has won!
Thoughts:
I'm guessing there will be some discussion over how "bastard" this setup was for a cop. This was not the intention, though there was a drawn out debate over it in the Obs QT. The one or two regrets I have regarding the setup is the lack of a Roleblocker for town (possibly replacing the 3p), and the USAM which was probably overkill. The thoughts behind the design of this setup was to have blue roles which clearly help town, but to have enough things to prevent town from solely relying on blues to win the game for you. It was said that reducing the blue roles alleviates that problem, but I believe that leads to other problems where the game just isn't fun for the players.
In terms of the actual gameplay, I didn't really write down the major turning points of the game, but I believe that in Day 1 after WoS claimed Parity Cop, completely ignoring/disregarding the claim was a pretty silly move and the fact one of the scum members voted for WoS soon after the claim was pretty suspicious from my point of view. I'm not sure if it was intentional, but post flip it probably could've been picked up. Scum lost the game when 'confirmed' townies never died, especially in the last two nights where rayn and kush got killed over fuba/Koshi. With most of the town members being able to rule out two or three scum candidates, the rest of the scum team kind of stood out clear as day and that's probably why the last 3 scum just died one after the other.
Regarding the concession: looking at thread sentiment shows it was near unlikely that Rainbows would be lynched or killed which is why I let the concession through.
Thanks:
I'd like to thank the players for playing a good game here, I was under the impression that scum would win until yamato died, thanks to the cohosts - marvellosity, Umasi and Alakaslam for helping with votecounts and one of the day posts. Thanks to the observers for giving their thoughts throughout the game. Next time I host I'm sure it'll be a much more normal setup.
Obs QT: http://quicktopic.com/50/H/n6S7URw9e4vj
Scum QT: http://quicktopic.com/50/H/bqggghwQu4n
Docs: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Aj-lUyP0F9RHdEFWcFZiMHVCc1l4WTg2LUI3TlFrdHc&usp=sharing
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YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAH! SURVIVED BITCHES!
Did nobody catch my crumbs? Because only Koshi seemed to get my play.
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AW YEAH RAINBOWS MVP
my thoughts:
The scumteam for most of the game just said nothing and waited for townies to lynch themselves, but they didn't actually have a voice in the discussions, so it was just on town to put two and two together.
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gg 1v14 report team
I thought I was playing decently for the first half or so of the game. Then I felt like everyone was being so painfully obviously scum. And school started for me so I wasn't able to post. Having an obvious scum like yamato and a new player in crazo wasn't the easiest, and also have geript be the person I was replacing (and him being obviously scum) wasn't easy. FT was a scumread of mine before I even replaced in, I thought he was sort of obvious. I'd like to think I was less obvious, at least until I lost interest. I sort of lost interest when it became obvious how low our shots were.
I also think this setup generally favored town, but maybe I'm just bitter. There were too many confirmed townies that we could never lynch and too few people that could actually be mislynch targets. Bleh, whatever. Gratz to town!
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FT and yamato were obvious scum. Problem was, town was so busy fucking up and being retarded that I decided to try and win with scum. Lynched Onegu over Yamato for that reason... unfortunately once all the Rayn spam / WoS garbage was out town had a head on it's shoulders. After Yamato's lynch it was pretty obv FT / Johnny because Sn0 gave a damn and Vayne was town unless hyper bus. I also didn't want to call scum out that hard at all for fear of getting shot. That Rayn shot was really bad btw.
My main breadcrumb was the "Survivor - Eye of the Tiger" video, and calling myself "Not mafia" instead of town. I also told Sn0 that if he was mafia he'd want to keep me alive at lylo, lol.
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The rayn shot was probably bad. At that point, FT put a bunch of reasons why it could be good and I just didn't care enough to actually think about it. I think rayn would have solved the game pretty soon though, despite him being rayn-crazy
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Oh yeah and thanks to the hosts and co-hosts for hosting! Great job everyone.
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On September 02 2013 11:05 johnnywup wrote:
gg 1v14 report team
I thought I was playing decently for the first half or so of the game. Then I felt like everyone was being so painfully obviously scum. And school started for me so I wasn't able to post. Having an obvious scum like yamato and a new player in crazo wasn't the easiest, and also have geript be the person I was replacing (and him being obviously scum) wasn't easy. FT was a scumread of mine before I even replaced in, I thought he was sort of obvious. I'd like to think I was less obvious, at least until I lost interest. I sort of lost interest when it became obvious how low our shots were.
I also think this setup generally favored town, but maybe I'm just bitter. There were too many confirmed townies that we could never lynch and too few people that could actually be mislynch targets. Bleh, whatever. Gratz to town!
LOL no. This setup was scum favored IMO.
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Naw, rayn shot won the game for town since I was a free mislynch next lol
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k then i blame FT
FT screw you
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yea I was going to vote rayn until he died, not the best choice. Should have disposed of fuba asap
another game for me with a flawless zero actions ever touching me lol, I might as well not be in the game when im town =)
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