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On September 07 2013 00:14 Clarity_nl wrote:
We could nolynch but that sounds like a pretty terrible idea. We have to hit scum and I think the cheese lynch in closed casket is a mistake. We get to see what slam flips and if he flips red then cheese is pretty much cleared. I'd lynch randombum there instead.
Yeah CC lynch is fucking terrible.
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On September 07 2013 00:22 Clarity_nl wrote:
Like, imagine you're town. debears nirvana strikes you and either you get lynched or debears get lynched, and your first instinct is to use your delayed dayvig on debears? Doesn't make sense. Why not try to get debears lynched first?
Can't make sense of it.
You might be right. I really am terrible at reading OO. I'll go through his filter tonight and give my opinion, ~3hours from now. Deal?
I have not read his posts at all before he came to me and asked my opinion on things.
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Fuck it i did it:
OO: Like everyone else, i don't see why called Vayne 3p. Have you played with him? And why did he not look like his town/scum self? This is a fishy read.
OO's first read on me sounds reasonable. His posts throughout the game sound more like town!OO. He makes bad decisions as mafia and he is not this convincing. I really do not think he is scum. His reaction to debears' nirvana strike feels town to me. I can understand that. I really think he is town.
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So if i understan this correctly. If debears is lynched, OO lives. If OO is lynched, both die.
Is this correct?
I think OO is town and we should lynch debears.
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I should be voting for debears no?
In case i am not:
##Vote: debears
On September 07 2013 00:45 Clarity_nl wrote:
Ugh.
I mean, he was right about the 3p read.... does that mean he knew too much or did he just have a very accurate read?
I likes OO's post about cakepie, but there was never any follow up or mention of cakepie again.
How does his reaction feel town rayn? The bring it attitude was but the shot makes no fucking sense as either alignment, which makes me think it's just scum giving up?
Usually when people read people as 3p they are scum. Why not say he is scum instead?
It feels town to me because i think it was a purely a reaction to debears' claim.
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lol VE, i just called OO town. I want his answer though.
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Why don't you have any opinion on the lynch VE? Which side are you helping here?
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2) he "thinks" i've done this before, yet provides no evidence and has since dropped that claim and not pushed it anymore.
You have done this before. You were a 3p.
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You did not say nothing like that. You commented on the game before catching up, which basically means you are most likely sure to be misinformed about what's going on, as you do not know the most recent happenings.
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I mean, he is true in saying you are useless if you are behind. How does that make him scum?
When i am behind i ask my strongest town read (Clarity) what to look for or what is important. I do not go back reading the thread and commenting on the game when i am 50 pages behind. That's dumb if you are town.
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I think you can post your own quotes. But the game is still going on.
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On September 07 2013 01:51 debears wrote:Show nested quote +On September 07 2013 01:49 Clarity_nl wrote:On September 07 2013 01:48 debears wrote:
4) OO's vote was pretty darn scumtastic, enough to the point where I believe he would be autolynched in nearly any game for what he said So you're nirvana striking for towncred? If I hit scum, towncred comes no? to some degree at least. I'd rather be in a 1v1 rather than trying to organize a thread (looking into multiple other people) behind me since I have had so little thread presence. It makes my arguments more front and center
So you are all-inning when being an almost sure lynch after Slam dropped, while ont reading the thread and not being caught up. Yet you are sure enough OO is scum? What if he had claimed something that proves he is town before that?
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On September 07 2013 02:00 debears wrote:Anyways, until I get confirmation (I'm not getting modkilled again cuz of stupidity lol) I only said I wasn't caught up within d1 when I hadn't been in the thread for 7 hours on the second half of day one (when there were a lot of new pages since it was the second half of day 1). I repeatedly said, "I'm catching up and will post reads", and I caught up within 2 hours and posted my reads in organized fashion. That is a completely different scenario here, where we have more players than desert, I started 56 pages of thread behind in a thread with almost 30 people. The thread grew so fast I couldn't keep up. Meanwhile, i was playing another game at the same time. And I won't be able to catch up Here's my first post, and look at this game http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/edit.php?action=edit&post_id=1110&topic_id=424349¤tpage=56You really expect me to catch up 56 pages in a 30 person game with the thread constantly growing while I was in another game? Slam couldn't do it
No i don't as i was in a same situation in this game aswell.
However, what you do not do, is to look at someone's vote on you (no matter how retared that is) and decide that guy is scum and the lynch is between you two.
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1) Is OO scummy overall?
2) Was my reasoning for my vote on him solid and logical?
3) Does it make sense for me to nirvana strike at this point?
4) Does my nirvana strike on OO make sense at this point?
5) Do I look scummy overall?
1) No
2) Where do you ever vote for OO?
3) not from town!pov.
4) see (3)
5) yes
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Why can't yuou get towncredit for telling people to vote for OO normally?
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On September 07 2013 02:28 debears wrote:Show nested quote +On September 07 2013 02:14 raynpelikoneet wrote:
1) Is OO scummy overall?
2) Was my reasoning for my vote on him solid and logical?
3) Does it make sense for me to nirvana strike at this point?
4) Does my nirvana strike on OO make sense at this point?
5) Do I look scummy overall?
1) No 2) Where do you ever vote for OO? 3) not from town!pov. 4) see (3) 5) yes 1) I'd love to hear how he isn't scummy when other people think so. 2) My nirvana strike was a vote in essense (I'm not gonna vote for myself) 3) How so? It makes sense to me seeing as I'd be a lynch candidate anyways and I believe he's scum 4) My nirvana strike on oo specifically makes sense since I think he's scum. Duh 5) Why? I have yet to see a legitimate reason to my scumminess. The only thing anyone has been able to say is "you are lurking", which is not in tune to any meta of mine in any game. Hence, it is a null tell, and you are solely lynching me for lurking, which is anti-town.
1) I explained my stance already on OO. What other people think of him means shit to me.
2) That's the point. You don't even try to get OO lynched "in traditional way". You just #YOLO between him and you immediately.
3) right, that's why it does not make sense as town
4) see (3)
5) I have stated my reasons why i think you are scummy.
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No Clarity, Risen's point is wrong. Whatever debears' alignment is, it does not make OO scum/town. If we lynch OO "to make sure scum dies" that's retarded. We lynch one of those two. The one who is more likely to flip mafia, regardless of their claimed powers.
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Austin is being pretty reasonable imo.
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EPT
