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I would also love to hear this one from obvious.
What changed that made my scummy between this post?
On September 03 2013 09:25 ObviousOne wrote:Show nested quote +On September 03 2013 00:05 debears wrote:
If we do decide on my super stylin plan, let me know within 7 hours or so.
Put it this way clarity.
1) If I was mafia and geript was town, it would be stupid for me to even bring up my power. If a majority tell me to do it, and I don't, I'm claiming mafia. I wasn't really at threat of being lynched yet. Geript would be lynched eventually based on his day 1.
2) If we were both mafia, full retard move Holy shit, read through debears, you're the fucking MAN. You're like our little pet baneling! (Or were, at least for today =P) + Show Spoiler +
and this post?
On September 06 2013 10:28 ObviousOne wrote:
Is debears really playing the game while being more than half the game behind in reading the thread? What the fuck?!
Considering I had told you guys from the start I was behind
On September 02 2013 05:04 debears wrote:Show nested quote +On September 02 2013 04:57 Clarity_nl wrote:On September 02 2013 04:54 debears wrote:
Clarity look at my post on dandel dawg Your interpretation makes him scum but he could just as easily just be town trolling and making shit up about what he would have done in other situations. There's other stuff about him that's damning though, and you seem cool. I like zentor > dandel. What do you think? I'll tell you when I catch back up. Still on page 34. Fun times
This quote is on page 94 for retrospect. 60 pages behind at that point.
Why was I suddenly scummy today for playing behind?
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On September 07 2013 02:35 Clarity_nl wrote:
What townie jumps on a wagon because he thinks the wagon is on scum, and then thinks "fuck it looks like I'm bussing and I won't get any credit for lynching scum!"
Help me understand debears
A townie that has no thread presence or towncred, that's who (and one that likely won't get any in a traditional way because he is behind)..
anyways look at my latest question to OO
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On September 07 2013 02:34 Clarity_nl wrote:
Wow. Is it possible you're actually both scum? I don't understand why you care so much for appearances.
The OO lynch was clearly possible, and the reason you nirvana striked was so that you took the credit instead of shiaopi and no one would call you out for bussing?
How was it clearly possible? there was only one vote on him at the time
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On September 07 2013 02:34 Clarity_nl wrote:
Wow. Is it possible you're actually both scum? I don't understand why you care so much for appearances.
The OO lynch was clearly possible, and the reason you nirvana striked was so that you took the credit instead of shiaopi and no one would call you out for bussing?
not bussing, wagoning.
Bussing would imply I'm scum
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seriously, at this point, one of two things happen
1) I get lynched. Ok no sweat
2) OO is lynched. I gain insta town cred. I don't have to defend myself for a whole day anymore.
I could have taken the non-nirvana strike route
1) possibly get OO lynched
2) possbily someone else get lynched
3) possibly I get lynched
4) defend myself for a whole day
5) defend myself for the next "x" lynches after that after surviving today's lynch
Which looks more appealing to you/>?
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On September 07 2013 02:40 Risen wrote:Show nested quote +On September 07 2013 02:15 austinmcc wrote:Abdicating defending yourself and nirvana striking right then does NOT feel solid/logical. Actually being in thread and posting like this seems solid and logical. Ugh. Gonna go read OO deeper. Risen, if you're around, wtf is this On September 06 2013 14:22 Risen wrote:
OO is the lynch now. The fact that there's a 24 hour delay on his power and no 24 hour or beginning of day restriction on debears power is absurd, but we have to deal with it. If debears lives past 24 hrs OO was lying. If he dies well lets not waste a lynch on a confirmed death. I don't know what you're not getting. The line of thinking is easy to follow. OO is lying > debears isn't dead and we lynched a liar. OO is telling the truth revealed when he dies > debears is dead let's not waste a lynch on a confirmed death. Also, why/how did OO know he was going to live long enough to use his day-vig ability? Doesn't seem like a dayvig would rely on living so long.
Right?
especially in a 30 player game.
It actually suprises me that this guy is actually the most logical one here. He was actually looking alot scummier before this.
And why didn't he shoot one of the many lurkers (ie me even) as a vig?>
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On September 07 2013 02:44 Clarity_nl wrote:Show nested quote +On September 07 2013 02:42 debears wrote:
seriously, at this point, one of two things happen
1) I get lynched. Ok no sweat
2) OO is lynched. I gain insta town cred. I don't have to defend myself for a whole day anymore.
I could have taken the non-nirvana strike route
1) possibly get OO lynched
2) possbily someone else get lynched
3) possibly I get lynched
4) defend myself for a whole day
5) defend myself for the next "x" lynches after that after surviving today's lynch
Which looks more appealing to you/>? So you're really 100% on him flipping scum? Show nested quote +On September 07 2013 02:40 Risen wrote:On September 07 2013 02:15 austinmcc wrote:Abdicating defending yourself and nirvana striking right then does NOT feel solid/logical. Actually being in thread and posting like this seems solid and logical. Ugh. Gonna go read OO deeper. Risen, if you're around, wtf is this On September 06 2013 14:22 Risen wrote:
OO is the lynch now. The fact that there's a 24 hour delay on his power and no 24 hour or beginning of day restriction on debears power is absurd, but we have to deal with it. If debears lives past 24 hrs OO was lying. If he dies well lets not waste a lynch on a confirmed death. I don't know what you're not getting. The line of thinking is easy to follow. OO is lying > debears isn't dead and we lynched a liar. OO is telling the truth revealed when he dies > debears is dead let's not waste a lynch on a confirmed death. Also, why/how did OO know he was going to live long enough to use his day-vig ability? Doesn't seem like a dayvig would rely on living so long. This is a good point. UGH
Risen kinda answered your qestion for me.
1) his vote on me makes no sense given his claim
2) His claim makes no sense given how a vig role is best utilized (especially in a 30 player game)
3) His claim makes no sense given how much kp scum have and how seriously he thought he would survive to n3
4) His claim makes no sense how early it was after the nirvana strike if he actually thought he had a case on me
Dat's why he scum dawg
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Oh, and him shooting me makes no sense if he actually thought he wouldn't get lynched and that I was scum anyways
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On September 07 2013 02:46 Risen wrote:
Ok so if I'm reading this all correctly, debears has lied about his power (it sure as hell wasn't within 12 hours if that's true) and has super shady reasoning behind his use of the power?
I'm going to laugh when they're double scum and OO is lying about his power. He flips red, doesn't have the dayvig, debears gets credit (but as is being shown in thread discussion right now if debears was being truthful about his reasoning for choosing OO there's a fairly large gap). OR OO comes into thread with about 6 hours left and says "I was lying, I didn't expect you guys to lynch me so I claimed dayvig. Debears isn't actually dying. Then shitstorm ensues and someone gets lynched. I would have immediately swapped back to debears had OO claimed this prior to me thinking about the double bus, and I don't think I'm alone. Then, even with OO flip (if he's red) debears still gets cleared somewhat, except we now have some seriously faulty reasoning coming from him. I think it's a double bus, I think debears was instructed in scum QT to use his power so one of them could have a chance for staying in the game longer. I think they fumbled it.
Dude I wish this was I double scum powerplay. Would be epicccccccccccccccccc.
Havne't been part of one yet 
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On September 07 2013 02:47 Clarity_nl wrote:
debears, can you explain what happened to your geript read? The start of d2 you're willing to martyr yourself to kill geript, but your vote never ends up on him and instead you voted hassy at some point without reasons.
it was double lynch and geript was leading anyways. So I voted for hassy, seeing as I also found him scummy for his constant mention of not trusting his "other half" early in the game and relative lack of scumhunting
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On September 07 2013 02:50 austinmcc wrote:No, can we go back to that. Show nested quote +On September 07 2013 02:31 debears wrote:
Also, I had to use my power within 12 hours of lynch (or something like that). This is your power, right? You have a role PM that says "This is your power."? Like, it has words that will tell you?
Ummmm, yeah, otherwise how did my nirvana strike work?
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On September 07 2013 02:52 raynpelikoneet wrote:
No Clarity, Risen's point is wrong. Whatever debears' alignment is, it does not make OO scum/town. If we lynch OO "to make sure scum dies" that's retarded. We lynch one of those two. The one who is more likely to flip mafia, regardless of their claimed powers.
Mine is confirmed, not claimed. duh
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coag with the ninja vote?
Come talk to me my sweet
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oh you are intrepreting wrongly. (me speaking poorly) Before being within 12 hours of lynch
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is when i had to use and abuse my powers for the good of townkind
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I'll do a final portrait portraying my thoughts of why I did it. Pictures are worth 1000 words.
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actually this quite suitably fits what I'm going through currently, a good guy being questioned for his actions. I'll draw the pre strike one later
Don't want to post another video in the thread. just take out the period in the beginning
.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_lXBtQTX9_4
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ill be on laters to bask in triumph
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Yes obviously we are all scum together going all in on a desperation scheme since no mafia have been killed yet
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