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On August 31 2013 05:38 Felkyr wrote: VE (or someone else), could you summerise your case on geript for me? He is talking shit, true, but does that make him scum? The fact that he's asking for a gun actually feels townie to me, or 3p. Would scum have the guts to do that? Also, you made that BM remark earlier (not knowing if they had a win conditions), when it was being said that they were a scum faction. Now, it seems you were on the right track. Why that does not really condemn you, it makes me think you might be BM yourself. On that note, onegu and stutter, could you clarify what was being said in the BM quicktopic? I've followed the Persona game a bit. And what stands out to me is that Koshi was very active there as townie. While now he doesn't seem to do a lot, except talk about his item. Geript just doesn't feel townie to me when he normally is very obviously town to me. He isn't doing anything that makes me feel like he's trying to discern anyone's alignment, clarify peoples positions, anything. He's one of a few people that I have found I can count on to do that sort of thing (at least until they give up due to apathy of a lurky town) when they're town. And he's not doing that shit this game. So it's mostly meta. I could go through his posts and show you why I think they're scum motivated I suppose, but that's all conjecture and subjective. What I can say about it as a whole however is that it doesn't feel like he's trying to figure out the game or get more information or anything. He looks like he's just trying to appear active and not get lynched. Look at the way he defends himself against me. He's not even trying - he's just going "lol" every time. Why? If he was town and suspicious of me he'd be furious about my continued push on him and be calling for my head. He's doing nothing. As to the BM stuff, I simply was pointing out that they're colored black in the OP so we don't know what they're here for. We only know green win conditions (remove red players) and red win conditions (equal/outnumber remaining players) because that's the win condition of the mafia game we all know and love. 3p win conditions vary, especially in GreY games where magic is possible, but can be both malicious and benign. My point was that we simply don't know what the win condition is - except now know (or at least they're claiming) that there is none. | ||
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On August 31 2013 06:00 Mr. Cheesecake wrote: Scumslip by felky, called VE town. DIE SCUM Reel it in there CC. Geript first...then we'll talk about supposed scumslips or whatever. | ||
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On August 31 2013 06:10 Mr. Cheesecake wrote: Fuck this phone posting. Does nobody else think thats obvious scumslip? To me it seemed natural that he could have just thought me town and that's why he said the second townie to claim. It didn't feel like he slipped that he actually knew I was town which is what I think you're getting at - but obviously I'm biased because I know that I am, in fact, town. | ||
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On August 31 2013 06:17 raynpelikoneet wrote: Hi. I did not read the past 7 pages but BH is mafia. ##Vote: Blazinghand You should, there's some good stuff in there. I don't necessarily disagree with you, but prefer to lynch geript as it's kinda been my hobby this game and I'd really like him to die. Plz? | ||
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On August 31 2013 06:14 mkfuba07 wrote: hihi~ Finally caught up in the thread. Need to filter people now. Is CC always this jumpy on possible scumslips? Yes, but he does it regardless of alignment so it's not alignment indicative. Wah wah waaaaah. | ||
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On August 31 2013 06:21 Blazinghand wrote: I'd like to hear your specific thought process and reasoning as to why I'm mafia I wish we were on the same page if you're town. | ||
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I don't like it because I like playing with you when we're on the same team and if we're on the same team, it will be sad to lynch you next if/when geript flips scum. | ||
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On August 31 2013 06:30 Blazinghand wrote: Oh so you just think I'm scum, and you'd rather I wasn't scum. That makes sense. That being said, nobody's lynching me for at least the first few days of this game. I'm far too valuable! You got it. While we're engaged here, talk to me about things about other people you've noticed. I'm obviously not going to sway you on geript *wink wink* and a large part of your problem with Cephiro IS his issue with geript so that's not doing much swaying me in that regard, so what else is there? What of this WaveOfShadow talk that's going on? I'm starting to have doubts on my initial read but not enough to want to lynch him. It's mostly the lack of content when he's around. Which I'll admit, he's around a fair enough amount to clear MOST players - but Wave pretty good imo and I'm starting to have doubts. What do you think? | ||
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On August 31 2013 06:50 geript wrote: VE. I'm very disappoint in you. Don't you know I'm unlynchable. Well here let me tell you. I'm unlynchable. Go ahead and try, but you're not much more than kuso little fish. You'll see when I damn well please. Oh geript. I really just don't care whether you're disappointed in me. That you expect me to, enough to voice it here in the game, tells me you're just trying to manipulate me. Maybe I'm biased, but everything you do just gets more and more scummy. Maybe I'll just ignore you instead. | ||
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You so easy to read as town Yamato. | ||
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I'd like your thoughts on Wave plx. | ||
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On August 31 2013 07:25 strongandbig wrote: HEY VE! I went through your filter and looked at every post where you mention geript. bad five more of the same: + Show Spoiler + On August 30 2013 09:48 VisceraEyes wrote: Oh shit Wave hur. Wave vote geript cause he scum. On August 30 2013 10:59 VisceraEyes wrote: I'm totally okay with you deciding who you want to lynch today. More than okay, actually. For my part, I'll be deciding who I want to lynch, thanks though. Right now it's geript. On August 30 2013 13:32 VisceraEyes wrote: I want everyone who isn't voting for geript to explain very clearly why they're not voting for geript, Thank you in advance. On August 30 2013 14:49 VisceraEyes wrote: 'Ala I'll be interested in your thoughts on who is scum whenever you have them. I really think you should reconsider not voting for geript though. He's like totes magotes scum. bad oh wait this might be real well, you don't actually provide reasons. your 1000% thing was obviously stupid and i see no actual comments on anything else geript has done. no idea why what geript is doing this game is different than the shitty shit he does every game. + Show Spoiler [talking with clarity] + On August 31 2013 01:36 VisceraEyes wrote: Except it didn't - it ONLY drew MY ire Clarity. I'm the only one who had any issue with geript at the beginning of the game. On August 31 2013 01:41 VisceraEyes wrote: Geript hasn't played enough scum for me to guage how "ballsy" his scum play is. But I do know how ballsy his town-play is. And it's way more ballsy than the weak ass shit I'm seeing out of him this game. Look at it like this: all he said was someone is scum. Like 1000%. Why would that draw any more attention to him than people trolling or people saying they haven't read their role PMs or people getting butthurt and ragequitting? these posts are basically irrelevant, clarity's defense was dumb and ve's responses to it don't matter either. no reason geript's opening whatever would or should have been especially notable, it was someone who says dumb things saying a dumb thing at the start of the game. + Show Spoiler [more bads] + On August 31 2013 04:33 VisceraEyes wrote: He says this as if any fucks were given up to this point. LMAO Still reading :d On August 31 2013 04:45 VisceraEyes wrote: EVERYONE SHOULD BE LYNCHING GERIPT THANK YOU FOR YOUR PATIENCE AND UNDERSTANDING IN THIS MATTER. Okay lets look at your history with geript. The most recent game you and geript were both in was boardwalk empire. you were scum. doesn't count. Then there's hydra mafia where you were hydras. doesn't count. Prior to that was the game and TL LX. In the game, you and geript were both town. you never mention a read on him. but you do talk about him a few times, so it's possible that you got a town read through his obviousness. Then there's LX where before you die: Geript gets mislynched. So you've played with geript in two games, both six or more months ago. One time you misread him and probably contributed to his mislynch. The other time you never mention what your read on him was. + Show Spoiler [more nothings] + On August 31 2013 06:18 VisceraEyes wrote: You should, there's some good stuff in there. I don't necessarily disagree with you, but prefer to lynch geript as it's kinda been my hobby this game and I'd really like him to die. Plz? On August 31 2013 06:26 VisceraEyes wrote: No you're throwing in your lot with the likes of geript. If he flips scum you're next, and I don't like that it has to be like that. On August 31 2013 06:29 VisceraEyes wrote: "the likes" as in "players playing like they're obviously scummy scum" I don't like it because I like playing with you when we're on the same team and if we're on the same team, it will be sad to lynch you next if/when geript flips scum. On August 31 2013 06:39 VisceraEyes wrote: You got it. While we're engaged here, talk to me about things about other people you've noticed. I'm obviously not going to sway you on geript *wink wink* and a large part of your problem with Cephiro IS his issue with geript so that's not doing much swaying me in that regard, so what else is there? What of this WaveOfShadow talk that's going on? I'm starting to have doubts on my initial read but not enough to want to lynch him. It's mostly the lack of content when he's around. Which I'll admit, he's around a fair enough amount to clear MOST players - but Wave pretty good imo and I'm starting to have doubts. What do you think? I'm calling bullshit on your geript push, VE. you've been yelling about lynching him all game, but no one's actually pushed back and you've never bothered to provide any reasons why he's scum. you've just been yelling at people. This isn't how you push a lynch effectively, it's how you distract and divide a town. This is all fairly pointless. You don't like HOW I've pushed geript - but what are you going to do about it? You're not calling me scum, and you're not voting for me and you're not defending geript and you're not agreeing with me about geript. It says nothing about anything other than "Phooey VE! Phooey!" Phooey right back my friend. | ||
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On August 31 2013 07:31 Blazinghand wrote: VE I know you've got some stuff on your plate atm but if you have a moment I'm interested in what you think of my response I don't like it - I asked you for thoughts and you were like "lolnope". What do you want me to say? | ||
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On August 31 2013 07:46 Blazinghand wrote: I'm not getting lynched today Hiro. Even if you don't like me and want to lynch me, I'm still in the townier half of this town and it's sub-optimal to lynch me D1 regardless This is fact. All of it. | ||
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On August 31 2013 07:54 HiroPro wrote: Luckily, I don't need either of your approval! No but you do need votes, and our votes would certainly aid in that quest. Just saying - it would be beneficial to get at least one of our approval. :/ | ||
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