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Felkyr
Profile Joined August 2013
United States135 Posts
September 06 2013 05:32 GMT
#3240
Ok, seems like he used it if he has it.
"… Every day, when I open the windows, my Koshi sings. It's marvelous."
Felkyr
Profile Joined August 2013
United States135 Posts
September 06 2013 19:08 GMT
#3366
I've read OO's filter. Conclusion: still more content than Risen. I've read debears filter. Conclusion: similar lack of content as Risen (before Nirvana).

On September 07 2013 01:48 debears wrote:
Btw guys, for those of you who are wondering why I Nirvana strike'd when I did, it was for these reasons
Show nested quote +

1) I was gonna be a main lynch candidate anyways
2) If I get a scum with the nirvana strike, I would be likely near confirmed town
3) I am far behind, and there really isn't a way for me to watch up (time is of the essence). My best way to get reads at this point is to put myself in a showdown and get reads of people's reasonings, which is the fastest way to catch up on reads.
4) OO's vote was pretty darn scumtastic, enough to the point where I believe he would be autolynched in nearly any game for what he said


Like was said before, this makes no real sense. Had you considered the fact that it might have been a pressure vote to get you ACTIVE in the game (as you yourself stated you were NOT). Don't duel him if it would make him autolynched.

On September 06 2013 10:38 ObviousOne wrote:
Voting debears, there's no way he should even be functional if he's not reading the thread without some kind of assistance.

##Vote: debears

Also I think he tried something like this shit back in Nomination Mafia and he was scum there.


He practically asks you to get more involved. No?

On September 07 2013 02:06 debears wrote:
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On September 07 2013 02:03 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 07 2013 02:00 debears wrote:
Anyways, until I get confirmation (I'm not getting modkilled again cuz of stupidity lol)

I only said I wasn't caught up within d1 when I hadn't been in the thread for 7 hours on the second half of day one (when there were a lot of new pages since it was the second half of day 1).

I repeatedly said, "I'm catching up and will post reads", and I caught up within 2 hours and posted my reads in organized fashion.

That is a completely different scenario here, where we have more players than desert, I started 56 pages of thread behind in a thread with almost 30 people. The thread grew so fast I couldn't keep up. Meanwhile, i was playing another game at the same time. And I won't be able to catch up

Here's my first post, and look at this game

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/edit.php?action=edit&post_id=1110&topic_id=424349&currentpage=56

You really expect me to catch up 56 pages in a 30 person game with the thread constantly growing while I was in another game? Slam couldn't do it

No i don't as i was in a same situation in this game aswell.
However, what you do not do, is to look at someone's vote on you (no matter how retared that is) and decide that guy is scum and the lynch is between you two.


His vote wasn't retarded. It was scummy as shit. And his claim makes no town sense with his vote either. It's also scummy the way he claimed and how he reserved his power instead of using it on lurkers early.


On September 07 2013 02:09 debears wrote:
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On September 07 2013 02:05 austinmcc wrote:
I think that's aimed at rayn, but I can say that the scummy thing about your being behind isn't that you're not caught up, but that you're posting these unsupported reads WHILE being behind. When you pick an opportunistic suspicion in that scenario, it looks like you're being told who to go after in QT and playing towards a scum agenda.


The main question you should be looking at is this

1) Is OO scummy overall?
2) Was my reasoning for my vote on him solid and logical?
3) Does it make sense for me to nirvana strike at this point?
4) Does my nirvana strike on OO make sense at this point?
5) Do I look scummy overall?

Those 5 questions will tell you where to vote

I'd say 2-4 are pretty darn obvious yes's.

5's probably a yes, because apparently people think my scum meta is not posting at all and claiming I won't catch up all game (lol, as if I'm that bad at scum).

And number 1 is apparently a yes also.


Rayn has answered this pretty well, the reasoning was BAD. It did not make sense.

On September 07 2013 02:40 Risen wrote:
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On September 07 2013 02:15 austinmcc wrote:
Abdicating defending yourself and nirvana striking right then does NOT feel solid/logical. Actually being in thread and posting like this seems solid and logical.

Ugh. Gonna go read OO deeper.

Risen, if you're around, wtf is this
On September 06 2013 14:22 Risen wrote:
OO is the lynch now. The fact that there's a 24 hour delay on his power and no 24 hour or beginning of day restriction on debears power is absurd, but we have to deal with it. If debears lives past 24 hrs OO was lying. If he dies well lets not waste a lynch on a confirmed death.

I don't know what you're not getting. The line of thinking is easy to follow. OO is lying > debears isn't dead and we lynched a liar. OO is telling the truth revealed when he dies > debears is dead let's not waste a lynch on a confirmed death.

Also, why/how did OO know he was going to live long enough to use his day-vig ability? Doesn't seem like a dayvig would rely on living so long.


And what if OO is town and DB scum? We would lynch town today. WE WOULD LYNCH TOWN TODAY. How can that be good in any scenario. You are scum. And you work together with debear. You two set this up perfectly, the only problem was that you didn't know that OO would shoot you.

Oh, and debear:

On September 07 2013 02:29 debears wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2013 02:27 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Why can't yuou get towncredit for telling people to vote for OO normally?


Shiao already voted him. My power makes it a black and white "I want him lynched" rather than some grey of "oh he just hopped on shiao's wagon".

Big difference


Guess what, Shiao is probably also on your scumteam. Perfectly set up. I read his filter. Conclusion: similar lack of content. Coincidence?

On September 06 2013 22:56 ShiaoPi wrote:
I would say it is pretty easy we lynch OO. If he is telling the truth about his shot debears will die anyway, if not he was a fucking liar and is then dead.

dont really see a benefit in voting debears over OO


Same faulty reasoning. Why can't OO be town? Oooh, I get it, it's good to lynch town right? Certainly if scum is going to die anyway.

On September 03 2013 23:48 ShiaoPi wrote:
hiro looks alright now, lets kill alakslam and hassy
##unvote
##Vote: Hassybaby


I would like to have written more stuff, but a lot of stuff is already said in previous posts. If you have questions, ask. I will continue my case.

And the Hiro pushing, I could see him join the team too. I will look into this further.

Risen+Debears+Shiao+(Hiro)=Scumteam

##Vote: debears

tl;dr: Risen, Debears and Shiao make no sense, they set this up together.
"… Every day, when I open the windows, my Koshi sings. It's marvelous."
Felkyr
Profile Joined August 2013
United States135 Posts
September 06 2013 19:30 GMT
#3368
So, you describe your move as desperate? I don't see it like that at all. If you wouldn't have gotten shot, it might have worked perfectly. There is several scum around, they work together. This is a fine piece of cooperation.
"… Every day, when I open the windows, my Koshi sings. It's marvelous."
Felkyr
Profile Joined August 2013
United States135 Posts
September 09 2013 04:01 GMT
#3900
I agree that Stutters should finally come totally clear with all the BM stuff. Onegu and Stutters claimed BM/town in the beginning of the game, with the 'promise' we would hear about it. But it has been clear that several stuff has happened there which we never heard about, which is fishy.

On September 09 2013 06:40 Stutters695 wrote:
So who all is down for lynching Rayn? I know the other pokemon role and I think they're way more likely town.


Stutters said the pokemon dude sounded more townie, but I'm not really sure of that. I mean... Professor Oak, Aperture Science? Pure speculation of course. But that's my point, why say the other dude is (way) more townie due to a role name (and then leaving, blowing up the thread)? Stutters, do you know more? (Note that Freeman was scum.)

+ Show Spoiler +
On September 04 2013 10:10 cakepie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2013 22:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Hey pokemon dude! Do not fight! There is no reason to if you are town!
You know what i mean. scum have hard time winning if you do not fight.
You can also prove you are town by doing so. If you don't, i'll hunt you down and kill you!

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On September 04 2013 09:30 raynpelikoneet wrote:
The other Pokemon dude is scum! If anyone ever claims/rolecops/gets any info about a pokemon dude who is not me they are scum!


So you are saying that you are a town pokemon trainer and despite not wanting to pokemon battle there is another pokemon trainer who has been picking fights with you despite your protestations that you should not be fighting if you're both town.

Do I understand you correctly?


On September 09 2013 08:29 cakepie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2013 08:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Holy fuck. If my role PM says there is another Pokemon master who wants to fight with me what the fuck i am supposed to expect? That there are none other? That we are in fact three?

I don't have your role PM how the fuck am I supposed to know? You don't explicitly say that your role PM confirms the presence of a player pokemon master. Only thing we know in thread is we see pokemon dying, and what you claim.

Can you indeed confirm that there is a player who is a pokemon trainer, or not?



Hmm, I always thought Rayn rather clear on this point (although other things about his role are more obscure), and Cakepie seemed to be on the same track too.

Stutters revealing the so called other pokemon trainer in that way makes me believe he and Rayn are not both scum (or it would be some scum powerplay?). Then Cakepie comes in to 'save' Stutters. Cakepie, why are you defending Stutters like this?

On September 09 2013 11:20 cakepie wrote:
The wagon on Stutters was to get him to out my identity. Nothing else.
Don't make some lame excuse to continue voting stutters. Especially when you were simply like


It's not like Stutters has been the towniest player this game. He might not be the best lynch target at the moment, but I would like to hear more from him. Why specifically do you not want to lynch him (don't say there are better lynch candidates)?

Cephiro, I suppose you are quite sure Hiro is town. Why? I mean, he changed a lot from his early game. But you obviously trust him quite completely for your shenanigans.

I'm waiting on Austin's answers/explanations for his sleeper cell actions.

AG, did you have any questions for me?
"… Every day, when I open the windows, my Koshi sings. It's marvelous."
Felkyr
Profile Joined August 2013
United States135 Posts
September 09 2013 22:38 GMT
#4424
God, how did the thread grow so fast today... I've noticed AG and Hiro are up for lynch. Can someone update me quickly while I read through it? What makes AG scummy and why did people start to vote on Hiro? I don't want to vote too late but I don't want to vote blindly either.
"… Every day, when I open the windows, my Koshi sings. It's marvelous."
Felkyr
Profile Joined August 2013
United States135 Posts
September 09 2013 22:54 GMT
#4434
I still hope I can read everything fully before deadline, but with what I know at the moment I prefer to lynch Hiro.
##Vote: HiroPro
"… Every day, when I open the windows, my Koshi sings. It's marvelous."
Felkyr
Profile Joined August 2013
United States135 Posts
September 09 2013 23:42 GMT
#4474
I will consolidate:
##Unvote
##Vote: AxleGreaser
"… Every day, when I open the windows, my Koshi sings. It's marvelous."
Felkyr
Profile Joined August 2013
United States135 Posts
September 11 2013 04:22 GMT
#4704
GG, thank you for the great hosting (for as far as I can know). Thanks to the victorious scum team for their help. <3
"… Every day, when I open the windows, my Koshi sings. It's marvelous."
Felkyr
Profile Joined August 2013
United States135 Posts
September 11 2013 04:24 GMT
#4706
And as an innocent Maiden, I may deliver it to the hosts (only a few hours late).
"… Every day, when I open the windows, my Koshi sings. It's marvelous."
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