Aperture Mafia 2: Episode 2 - Page 207
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Mr. Cheesecake
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WaveofShadow
Canada31494 Posts
On September 10 2013 02:06 Mr. Cheesecake wrote: Oh. That's why we can't lynch him? Because he's in your sleeper cell and we can confirm his alignment based on that. If he's scum he dies, If he's town he lives. I see. But wasn't what was suggested as me being added to the sleeper cell to perform that check? | ||
WaveofShadow
Canada31494 Posts
On September 10 2013 02:07 HiroPro wrote: So let's kill Risen or WoS then! And tomorrow we get cop checks and sleeper cell "confirmation". Where the fuck is Ceph? I want you dead and have since the start. Guess why you were roleblocked? | ||
Mr. Cheesecake
United States3756 Posts
On September 10 2013 02:08 WaveofShadow wrote: But wasn't what was suggested as me being added to the sleeper cell to perform that check? Is randombum already in the cell or no? I thought that's why Austin couldnt check anyone else? | ||
WaveofShadow
Canada31494 Posts
On September 10 2013 02:09 Mr. Cheesecake wrote: Is randombum already in the cell or no? I thought that's why Austin couldnt check anyone else? Yeah he can't check anyone else today/tonight. Tomorrow I could theoretically be added I suppose. | ||
raynpelikoneet
Finland43266 Posts
On September 10 2013 00:31 austinmcc wrote: Alright, enough watching. I lead a sleeper cell. I add a person each night, up to 3. Ta da, stutters, cakepie if you guys couldn't guess from his fixation on what I wrote to stutters, and randombum last night. Here's how the cell works. Each of my cell members votes each night on a target. If the voting is UNANIMOUS, my cell shoots that target. If the voting is not unanimous, we twiddle our thumbs. That's why weird lists in the thread, I need to be able to give codewords and then figure out targets later, and I needed you guys to have phrases you could use if you didn't want to shoot my target, because the unanimity is friggin' important. Why? Because, it's not like the sleeper cells in the sleeper cell games. I don't have any control over the KP, don't get to choose someone you send in, I just get to try and get everyone on one page. And here's the twist. If I add a mafia player to the cell, that player does not get a vote. N1 I added stutters. N2 I had him shoot alakaslam and added cakepie. UNLESS anyone else can claim the shot on alakaslam, stutters is 100% town. If he were mafia, my cell would not have shot. And it can't be a stutters/alakaslam mafia team because there was actual host confirmation that alakaslam was shot. On N3, I had stutters and cakepie on different targets. If cakepie were mafia, stutters would have shot randombum last night (stutters as town has a vote, mafia cakepie would NOT and so it would be unanimous to stutters's target, randombum). Cakepie, you can rest a little easier and get off stutters back. Cakepie, I know what you're worried about, but stutters is cleared unless someone claims slam shot. I needed to compartmentalize information so you guys didn't know you were shooting different targets, and I didn't want it known that I'm a half-ass DT because of how the shooting works. I basically get kills OR checks. Stutters, I know you said you're easy to read, but I usually end up calling you mafia in our games and I'm paranoid that you'll roll scum and just lay low. So I added you to the cell as a way of seeing your alignment, and also figured since we've played a couple games you could trust me if you agreed with my targets. Cakepie, you actually got active on D3, but when I added you N2 I didn't really have a feel for you, so added you as a check again. N3 I added randombum. randombum was the person I was talking to stutters about last night, adding little things but never following them, getting suspicion but always hovering outside the lynch. I am fine lynching randombum today, but it's inefficient. Stutters and cakepie, you guys shoot randombum tonight. randombum, if you're town, shoot anyone other than yourself. Ta da! If randombum is mafia, his vote doesn't count, stutters/cakepie are unanimous, and randombum gets shot. I don't actively do anything, so I can't be roleblocked. OO flipped blocker, and I doubt that scum can block BOTH stutters and cakepie from voting, and if either gets a vote in and randombum is mafia, whoosh. If bum doesn't get shot, votes weren't unanimous, and he's town. Got like two more sizeable posts coming off what I've noticed today. Pressure stutters all you want, but unless anyone can claim the shot on alakaslam, he's town. Again, what does happen if we lynch randombum? You have Stutters & cakepie left, right? Why can't you use them as a vigi shot on someone? Let's say they both target me, do i die regardless of my alignment? Why can't you just shoot another scummy target? Who do you propose we lynch them? Because the suggestion of lynching a vigilante who killed mafia is stupid as fuck. | ||
austinmcc
United States6737 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + If we lynch randombum, cakepie/stutters can shoot WoS but either they both vote and it 100% shoots or they don't both vote and it 0% shoots, it's entirely dependent upon THEM and not upon WoS's alignment. If we don't lynch randombum, cakepie/stutters can shoot WoS. If randombum is town and votes WoS, it shoots. If randombum is scum his vote doesn't matter, it shoots WoS. If randombum is town AND FOR SOME REASON votes not WoS, it doesn't shoot. In any of those scenarios, randombum's alignment and vote matter, WoS's alignment does not. The reason I can fakecheck randombum is because he's in the cell itself, and the cell members are what determine shots firing or not. If cakepie/stutters vote him and he votes anyone else, then (1) if he's scum, his vote doesn't count, the votes are randombum - 2, anyone else - 0, and he gets shot; but (2) if he's town, his vote counts, and the votes are randombum - 2, someone else - 1, and it's not unanimous and he doesn't get shot WoS...do you know anything about VE we don't? | ||
AxleGreaser
Australia1154 Posts
On September 10 2013 01:51 WaveofShadow wrote: Oh for fuck sakes. Fine better for me to claim now than later. You'd better force some shit out of Axle though for this. I'm Edward Elric the Fullmetal Alchemist. 3P survivor. Does that fit with all of the theories people have about me now? All except the one where I wondered why Shiaopi was such a priority as to get a role Block one night and KP the next. | ||
HiroPro
United States2624 Posts
On September 10 2013 02:09 WaveofShadow wrote: Where the fuck is Ceph? I want you dead and have since the start. Guess why you were roleblocked? it's fun to see when you're angry ![]() | ||
WaveofShadow
Canada31494 Posts
You say I'm scum for not having rolelclaimed, why is no one putting pressure on him? Nobody knows anything about his role either. He hasn't reacted to my claim at all or examined that it is actually feasible, he's just sitting on his 'big QT play' and using that as the be-all-end-all for his actions today. He's found a 'safe' lynch as scum and is going to stick with it. | ||
strongandbig
United States4858 Posts
On September 10 2013 01:54 HiroPro wrote: If only s&b was still here ![]() <3 | ||
austinmcc
United States6737 Posts
I don't propose we lynch Cephiro. I propose we figure out what the eff is going on with Cephiro/Hiro/Zentor. My alternate lynch right now looks like WoS or Hiro, but Hiro is connected to Cephiro and if there's some explanation that makes sense and paints Hiro townie, we don't lynch him. | ||
WaveofShadow
Canada31494 Posts
On September 10 2013 02:11 austinmcc wrote: Here's how my night works, again, but spelled out more fully: + Show Spoiler + If we lynch randombum, cakepie/stutters can shoot WoS but either they both vote and it 100% shoots or they don't both vote and it 0% shoots, it's entirely dependent upon THEM and not upon WoS's alignment. If we don't lynch randombum, cakepie/stutters can shoot WoS. If randombum is town and votes WoS, it shoots. If randombum is scum his vote doesn't matter, it shoots WoS. If randombum is town AND FOR SOME REASON votes not WoS, it doesn't shoot. In any of those scenarios, randombum's alignment and vote matter, WoS's alignment does not. The reason I can fakecheck randombum is because he's in the cell itself, and the cell members are what determine shots firing or not. If cakepie/stutters vote him and he votes anyone else, then (1) if he's scum, his vote doesn't count, the votes are randombum - 2, anyone else - 0, and he gets shot; but (2) if he's town, his vote counts, and the votes are randombum - 2, someone else - 1, and it's not unanimous and he doesn't get shot WoS...do you know anything about VE we don't? Well obviously I'm going to get shot either way from the way you're talking so I have no reason to help anymore, do I? Ungrateful fucking town. | ||
Mr. Cheesecake
United States3756 Posts
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austinmcc
United States6737 Posts
On September 10 2013 02:15 WaveofShadow wrote: Someone asked about shooting you to confirm you, that's my response there. Knock it off.Well obviously I'm going to get shot either way from the way you're talking so I have no reason to help anymore, do I? Ungrateful fucking town. You're claiming 3P survivor late in a game with 3 other claimed and 1.5 flipped 3P survivors. You're clearly not town, whatever you are, but if you put yourself in our shoes, it's a bit difficult to just blindly trust a 4th 3P survivor claim, especially when the rolename is related to some other claimed/.5 flipped 3P survivor who has peaced out. Are you saying the rolenames are just a coincidence? P-Body and ATLAS interacted here, but Ed and Al don't at all? | ||
WaveofShadow
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WaveofShadow
Canada31494 Posts
On September 10 2013 02:17 austinmcc wrote: Someone asked about shooting you to confirm you, that's my response there. Knock it off. You're claiming 3P survivor late in a game with 3 other claimed and 1.5 flipped 3P survivors. You're clearly not town, whatever you are, but if you put yourself in our shoes, it's a bit difficult to just blindly trust a 4th 3P survivor claim, especially when the rolename is related to some other claimed/.5 flipped 3P survivor who has peaced out. Are you saying the rolenames are just a coincidence? P-Body and ATLAS interacted here, but Ed and Al don't at all? I'll reveal more info when I have reason to. I can't see you wasting two lynches/shots in a row on both of us---you give scum a huge advantage that way. Pressure Axle for a while. Then we talk. Hiro too. I don't see any reason why he should be town simply because he was forced to 'maybe-kill' Zentor. | ||
AxleGreaser
Australia1154 Posts
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AxleGreaser
Australia1154 Posts
On September 10 2013 02:16 Mr. Cheesecake wrote: Axle, explain exactly what your role does. Name and all. Why? | ||
Mr. Cheesecake
United States3756 Posts
Because I said so, and so I know you're not bullshitting us. | ||
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