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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 09 2013 16:24 GMT
#4061
On September 10 2013 01:23 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 10 2013 01:20 raynpelikoneet wrote:
WoS what have you been doing with your role? Are you the cop?

I have done basically nothing with my role.
It's useless.

If it's useless claim plz. There is no reason not to.
table for two on a tv tray
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
September 09 2013 16:25 GMT
#4062
Rayn, why is Axle almost certainly town.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
September 09 2013 16:25 GMT
#4063
Don't like this. If we don't trust he's not done anything, then we don't trust his roleclaim anyway.

If we trust he's done nothing, then I dunno what we get out of a claim.
Fe fi fo fum.
AxleGreaser
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia1154 Posts
September 09 2013 16:26 GMT
#4064
On September 10 2013 01:20 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 10 2013 01:17 AxleGreaser wrote:
Meh I will just get too tired to do it properly if I let this lynch roll around in the thread to see if anything useful falls out.



ATTENTION

+ Show Spoiler +

Scum RB'd Shiaopi N2. Shiapi claimed the RB.
As WOS says the plan was to include me in the mason QT. That did not happen.

Alakslam the Scum RB was removed from the game D3.

No one RB'd Shiaopi D3, Shiaopi sent in the request to add me to the "mason QT". (hi WOS)
Shiaopi died but the Mason QT lives on.
Apparently Shiaopi does not have to be alive for the "Mason" QT to still operate.


WOS has not been entirely truthful about what he said happened in the Mason QT with Shiaopi.

In this post http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=19703097
On September 09 2013 05:29 WaveofShadow wrote:
......
He volunteered his role info (minus the KP only being usable on mason members for obvious reasons) to me despite me not having provided any reads or information to him yet.


This is not what happened.

Shiaopi did not "volunteered his role info" WOS specifically asked for information about the role.

When Asked Shiaopi replied and explained the mechanics of 4 Players ... gave him 1 shot KP.

Later WOS specifally asked if the KP was on mason members (more role fishing)

at thatpoint hsiaopi lied and said it was "normal" KP.









So your entire scumread is because I said 'volunteered?' as a response to my asking?
Ok you're right, I asked him but I used the word volunteered because he answered my question before receiving anything from me which showed me his towniness. I was not lying at all and you're calling me scum based on semantics.

The fact that you were added to the QT (AND DIDNT FUCKING SAY ANYTHING) means Shiao was concerned over you being scum at some point as well since you could be shot if he added two more people.

Why would you not try and get reads from me in QT rather than simply spy on me?

I told the truth about absolutely everything in there.


not out here though

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=19703124
On September 09 2013 05:38 WaveofShadow wrote:
He actually didn't provide many reads of his own for a few days.
He thought Geript was scum, though kita was town/hassy scum....maybe a townread on Hiro since he stopped trolling?
He seemed genuinely confused by all the debears/OO shit..

haha reading through this QT again it seems I actually provided most of the reads and details. No wonder he (said he) trusted me.
Oh and again I forget if I mentioned this but you were his second proposed mason target, Axle. His reasoning he gave when he recruited me was 'because he had trouble reading me,' so I suspect his reasoning may have been similar, possibly to keep you close so he could shoot you if necessary (if he though you might be scum). He was apparently RBed so that never happened.


In the QT

Initially
SHiaopi stated he was NUllish to town on Axle.
Later. Stated he would recruit Axle because he had solid town read on him.(Axle)


Axle(OnlySomeTheoriesToAbsurdToBeConsidered)Greaser
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
September 09 2013 16:28 GMT
#4065
On September 10 2013 01:25 austinmcc wrote:
Don't like this. If we don't trust he's not done anything, then we don't trust his roleclaim anyway.

If we trust he's done nothing, then I dunno what we get out of a claim.


If he's scum he'll have to make something up on the spot and it will be shit.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 09 2013 16:28 GMT
#4066
On September 10 2013 01:25 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Rayn, why is Axle almost certainly town.

I am not sure of it any more because of the QT shenanigans. Apparently WoS has tried to talk there and Axle has not?
table for two on a tv tray
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
September 09 2013 16:30 GMT
#4067
On September 10 2013 01:28 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 10 2013 01:25 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Rayn, why is Axle almost certainly town.

I am not sure of it any more because of the QT shenanigans. Apparently WoS has tried to talk there and Axle has not?


I don't see your rational pre-QT shenanigans. I read him as completely 'Axle does what he wants' wildcard.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 09 2013 16:30 GMT
#4068
Axle, has WoS had any idea you have been in the QT before you said so in thread?
table for two on a tv tray
AxleGreaser
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia1154 Posts
September 09 2013 16:31 GMT
#4069
In the QT WOS there was an exchange WOS said he derped and when Shiaopi typed Axle WOS read it as Alak...
In clarifying WOS

said he would not have thought Shiaopi would have thought Axle was scummy.

Not only did Shiaopi say he had solid town read on Axle just before he told WOS he would recruit me, but WOS claimed he would have thought shiaopi would think that...

There is not confusion WOS simply conveiniently made up that "so I suspect his reasoning may have been similar, possibly to keep you close so he could shoot you if necessary (if he though you might be scum)."
Axle(OnlySomeTheoriesToAbsurdToBeConsidered)Greaser
AxleGreaser
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia1154 Posts
September 09 2013 16:33 GMT
#4070
On September 10 2013 01:30 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Axle, has WoS had any idea you have been in the QT before you said so in thread?


None at all I have posted nothing in the thread.

I wanted to see if he would report what was in it accurately.

If you go back and read our friendly conversation you we will see me doing it now...
Axle(OnlySomeTheoriesToAbsurdToBeConsidered)Greaser
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 09 2013 16:33 GMT
#4071
Can someone explain to me what Axle is saying. I don't understand a single fucking thing.
table for two on a tv tray
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
September 09 2013 16:33 GMT
#4072
On September 10 2013 01:33 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Can someone explain to me what Axle is saying. I don't understand a single fucking thing.


+1
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 09 2013 16:34 GMT
#4073
Got cut.
Okay so, Axle is saying WoS has been lying in thread about what has been talked about in the QT, correct?
WoS did not actually know Axle has even been in the QT, correct?
table for two on a tv tray
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
September 09 2013 16:35 GMT
#4074
On September 10 2013 01:31 AxleGreaser wrote:
In the QT WOS there was an exchange WOS said he derped and when Shiaopi typed Axle WOS read it as Alak...
In clarifying WOS

said he would not have thought Shiaopi would have thought Axle was scummy.

Not only did Shiaopi say he had solid town read on Axle just before he told WOS he would recruit me, but WOS claimed he would have thought shiaopi would think that...

There is not confusion WOS simply conveiniently made up that "so I suspect his reasoning may have been similar, possibly to keep you close so he could shoot you if necessary (if he though you might be scum)."

At the time I believed when Shiao said his KP could be used on anyone, after I questioned him about it.
Then when he flipped I realized my initial suspicions were right and that's why I was initially recruited, and probably why you were as well.

nothing more to it than that Axle. You're trying to throw shit at me and draw lies out of nowhere. I was completely truthful in everything I said to Shiao.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
AxleGreaser
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia1154 Posts
September 09 2013 16:36 GMT
#4075
On September 10 2013 01:30 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 10 2013 01:28 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 10 2013 01:25 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Rayn, why is Axle almost certainly town.

I am not sure of it any more because of the QT shenanigans. Apparently WoS has tried to talk there and Axle has not?


I don't see your rational pre-QT shenanigans. I read him as completely 'Axle does what he wants' wildcard.



I have not posted yet.. I can any time I like, but i do have read access to the entire log from when QT opened.

answers to questions I just posted in the QT

42 (6x7)
Anything it wants. (what do you give a 500lb canary with a machine gun?)
Axle(OnlySomeTheoriesToAbsurdToBeConsidered)Greaser
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
September 09 2013 16:37 GMT
#4076
I've seen all I need to see.
##Vote: Axlegreaser

This is the third time in a row now he's doing this. Seems unbelievable but it's true. trying to 'make plays' by not talking in the QT at all so I didn't realize he was in there so he could try to catch me in something, when there is NOTHING to catch me in.

Hey Axle, I have a proposition for you. Since they are my posts, I can copy/paste everything I ever said in there. Then you can show me exactly where I flat out lied and it's not just a bullshit interpretation of yours.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
September 09 2013 16:38 GMT
#4077
What does all this QT shit have to do with alignment anyway?
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
AxleGreaser
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia1154 Posts
September 09 2013 16:39 GMT
#4078
On September 10 2013 01:34 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Got cut.
Okay so, Axle is saying WoS has been lying in thread about what has been talked about in the QT, correct?
WoS did not actually know Axle has even been in the QT, correct?



Yep lying is a challenging word.

it is now up to the thread to gauge what I posted above.

WOS bent stuff a bit to make him look better

the way he described Shiaopi volouteering information about the role makes it look in this thread like Shiaopi trusted him enough to just offer the information.

The truth is WOS asked. Got told about 4 mason and 1shot KP.

Then asked specifically again if the KP was only on mason members.
At that point Shiaopi did lie and say it was normal KP.
Axle(OnlySomeTheoriesToAbsurdToBeConsidered)Greaser
AxleGreaser
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia1154 Posts
September 09 2013 16:40 GMT
#4079
On September 10 2013 01:38 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
What does all this QT shit have to do with alignment anyway?



WOS a possible towny or a possible Scum. Lying about what another flipped towny said in the QT.
Axle(OnlySomeTheoriesToAbsurdToBeConsidered)Greaser
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
September 09 2013 16:40 GMT
#4080
Can't we just play a normal mafia game with some goons and like a doctor or something?

Wave I want you to claim now btw. Idc how useless it is.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
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