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Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
September 02 2013 18:04 GMT
#2161
On September 03 2013 03:02 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 03 2013 02:33 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
still have the oats snip pasted in a different window! Salvation!

Oatsmaster

He can't read Yamato. Both him and I have been with Yamato and several games. Yamato looked very townie and Oats didn't pick up on it. I have no idea what the vote was even about and it makes no sense.

On September 01 2013 03:13 Oatsmaster wrote:
##unvote

I like his recent posting.

And geript WILL FLIP TOWN GUYS. MARK MY WORDS. AND SOMEONE WILL DIE BECAUSE OF IT. Lynch Yamato cause hes been fucking useless and not made anyone angry. He wants to lynch Dandel. lulno. And geript. lultown.

##vote yamato


He also keeps calling Geript town. Look how certain Oats is that Geript will flip town. My Theory here is that scumOats wants to look good when towngeript flips. When BH flips, suddenly Geript isn't town anymore and he is confirmed scum.

On September 03 2013 01:43 Oatsmaster wrote:
why arent we fucking voting for confirmed scum?
##vote geript


WHEN DID THIS HAPPEN? Oats kept preaching all throughout day 1 that Geript was going to flip town. He's town bros! Don't lynch Geript he'll flip town!

Oh, voterigger insane power on town BH? MUST MEAN GERIPT CONFIRMED SCUM.

This is not only retarded, it seems like scum play. He totes didn't want to lynch geript but the second bh flips he wants to lynch the guy. Oats hasn't been playing like town this game. The only thing he did well was push my Felkyr wagon which I like, but I still don't know Felkyr's alignment.

oh just saw this.

Doesnt make sense as scum, does it? Having hard stances and 180s.
Huh. I guess you're wrong.


Nice defense. Why is Geript 100% scum?
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
September 02 2013 18:04 GMT
#2162
On September 03 2013 02:59 HiroPro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 03 2013 02:36 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Summary of cakepie case:

- His name is garbs. cheesecake bezt.
- And:

On September 01 2013 00:32 cakepie wrote:
ack, dozed off
---

+ Show Spoiler +
On August 31 2013 21:55 cakepie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2013 21:49 Oatsmaster wrote:
Also Felkyr is totally scum man. Dont be fooled by newb townie, even any new townplayer wouldve at least done something other than SETUP SPECULATION. Its the easiest thing to pick up on for new scum because the thoughts surrounding them arent fake.


brb, taking another look



I ain't exactly got spidey senses screaming to me that he is confirmed scum. My read on him (newbie null) sits precariously and could swing to scummy in a real jiffy if, say, he responds poorly or incorrectly under pressure.



Scum scum scum scum scum

I'm actually not entirely sure about cakepie. His last post responding to me seems pretty genuinely upset lol.

Right now there are a lot of people in this game who haven't really done anything of note but have somehow avoided all attention. We should probably be lynching into this group - they're our best chance of hitting mafia. ObviousOne is a good example of this. The majority of his day 1 play appears unusually hesitant almost as if he's reluctant to actually call anyone out:
Show nested quote +

Or your guy Felkyr, though there's something to perhaps counter that. Once upon a time, VE apologized before leaving for having to leave the thread to go to work and people went nuts on him, and he was town. He was just being courteous. Is Felkyr just being courteous in the post you quoted? Like, just out of virtue of who he is? Can't know, first game.

Show nested quote +
On August 31 2013 03:32 ObviousOne wrote:
On August 30 2013 23:48 ShiaoPi wrote:
hai guys catching up

On August 31 2013 00:06 ShiaoPi wrote:
skimmed all over this thread, lets go kill WoS? only one who stuck out for me in this initial read

##Vote: WaveofShadow

Maybe this one if it's going to live in a perpetual state of catch-up? It's hard to pick. WOS voted Shiao back, this whole thing kinda went nowhere. Can we get some resolution between you two? Hug it out? Fight it out? 20 paces and draw lightsabers?

Furthermore, the one post in which he actually offers any sort of analysis/argument (on myself) is very similar to the arguments that multiple other people have brought up and also contains such nonsense as:
Show nested quote +
Being Brown is the essence of being unreadable. --> There's only really one question here: does Hiro's role have anything to do with Chezinu or the Brotherhood of the Brown? If so, who is the scribe? If not, there's no reason for him to be brown. Also, he's doing Brown wrong.


I'd like for everyone to share their opinions about him.


How about randombum instead? I kinda liked OO's last post.
They both have less than a page but randombum looks worse IMO
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
September 02 2013 18:05 GMT
#2163
On September 03 2013 03:04 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 03 2013 02:39 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Can you rationalize him going "Geript looks really town don't lynch him he will flip town"

to

"Geript confirmed scum"

Due to BH flipping as town?

Its called Geript dayvigging arguably the strongest town player in the game.
Remeber SnB from that game a while ago? did the exact same thing. Was scum.


Geript =/= SnB. Didn't read the game. A lot of people thought BH was scum too.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
HiroPro
Profile Joined March 2012
United States2624 Posts
September 02 2013 18:07 GMT
#2164
On September 03 2013 03:04 Clarity_nl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 03 2013 02:59 HiroPro wrote:
On September 03 2013 02:36 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Summary of cakepie case:

- His name is garbs. cheesecake bezt.
- And:

On September 01 2013 00:32 cakepie wrote:
ack, dozed off
---

+ Show Spoiler +
On August 31 2013 21:55 cakepie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2013 21:49 Oatsmaster wrote:
Also Felkyr is totally scum man. Dont be fooled by newb townie, even any new townplayer wouldve at least done something other than SETUP SPECULATION. Its the easiest thing to pick up on for new scum because the thoughts surrounding them arent fake.


brb, taking another look



I ain't exactly got spidey senses screaming to me that he is confirmed scum. My read on him (newbie null) sits precariously and could swing to scummy in a real jiffy if, say, he responds poorly or incorrectly under pressure.



Scum scum scum scum scum

I'm actually not entirely sure about cakepie. His last post responding to me seems pretty genuinely upset lol.

Right now there are a lot of people in this game who haven't really done anything of note but have somehow avoided all attention. We should probably be lynching into this group - they're our best chance of hitting mafia. ObviousOne is a good example of this. The majority of his day 1 play appears unusually hesitant almost as if he's reluctant to actually call anyone out:

Or your guy Felkyr, though there's something to perhaps counter that. Once upon a time, VE apologized before leaving for having to leave the thread to go to work and people went nuts on him, and he was town. He was just being courteous. Is Felkyr just being courteous in the post you quoted? Like, just out of virtue of who he is? Can't know, first game.

On August 31 2013 03:32 ObviousOne wrote:
On August 30 2013 23:48 ShiaoPi wrote:
hai guys catching up

On August 31 2013 00:06 ShiaoPi wrote:
skimmed all over this thread, lets go kill WoS? only one who stuck out for me in this initial read

##Vote: WaveofShadow

Maybe this one if it's going to live in a perpetual state of catch-up? It's hard to pick. WOS voted Shiao back, this whole thing kinda went nowhere. Can we get some resolution between you two? Hug it out? Fight it out? 20 paces and draw lightsabers?

Furthermore, the one post in which he actually offers any sort of analysis/argument (on myself) is very similar to the arguments that multiple other people have brought up and also contains such nonsense as:
Being Brown is the essence of being unreadable. --> There's only really one question here: does Hiro's role have anything to do with Chezinu or the Brotherhood of the Brown? If so, who is the scribe? If not, there's no reason for him to be brown. Also, he's doing Brown wrong.


I'd like for everyone to share their opinions about him.


How about randombum instead? I kinda liked OO's last post.
They both have less than a page but randombum looks worse IMO

Explain it to me.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
September 02 2013 18:08 GMT
#2165
On September 03 2013 03:05 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 03 2013 03:04 Oatsmaster wrote:
On September 03 2013 02:39 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Can you rationalize him going "Geript looks really town don't lynch him he will flip town"

to

"Geript confirmed scum"

Due to BH flipping as town?

Its called Geript dayvigging arguably the strongest town player in the game.
Remeber SnB from that game a while ago? did the exact same thing. Was scum.


Geript =/= SnB. Didn't read the game. A lot of people thought BH was scum too.

BH is a really bad target for a vig.

Its a complete scumtell. Makes 0 sense for towngeript who knows how good BH is, to fuck around for 2 days and shoot him. It makes sense for scum geript after he got caught for the first day and then just take out the strongest townie anyway.

SEE.
No gg, No skill.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
September 02 2013 18:11 GMT
#2166
On September 03 2013 03:08 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 03 2013 03:05 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On September 03 2013 03:04 Oatsmaster wrote:
On September 03 2013 02:39 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Can you rationalize him going "Geript looks really town don't lynch him he will flip town"

to

"Geript confirmed scum"

Due to BH flipping as town?

Its called Geript dayvigging arguably the strongest town player in the game.
Remeber SnB from that game a while ago? did the exact same thing. Was scum.


Geript =/= SnB. Didn't read the game. A lot of people thought BH was scum too.

BH is a really bad target for a vig.

Its a complete scumtell. Makes 0 sense for towngeript who knows how good BH is, to fuck around for 2 days and shoot him. It makes sense for scum geript after he got caught for the first day and then just take out the strongest townie anyway.

SEE.


who should he have shot, then?
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
September 02 2013 18:12 GMT
#2167
On September 03 2013 03:07 HiroPro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 03 2013 03:04 Clarity_nl wrote:
On September 03 2013 02:59 HiroPro wrote:
On September 03 2013 02:36 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Summary of cakepie case:

- His name is garbs. cheesecake bezt.
- And:

On September 01 2013 00:32 cakepie wrote:
ack, dozed off
---

+ Show Spoiler +
On August 31 2013 21:55 cakepie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2013 21:49 Oatsmaster wrote:
Also Felkyr is totally scum man. Dont be fooled by newb townie, even any new townplayer wouldve at least done something other than SETUP SPECULATION. Its the easiest thing to pick up on for new scum because the thoughts surrounding them arent fake.


brb, taking another look



I ain't exactly got spidey senses screaming to me that he is confirmed scum. My read on him (newbie null) sits precariously and could swing to scummy in a real jiffy if, say, he responds poorly or incorrectly under pressure.



Scum scum scum scum scum

I'm actually not entirely sure about cakepie. His last post responding to me seems pretty genuinely upset lol.

Right now there are a lot of people in this game who haven't really done anything of note but have somehow avoided all attention. We should probably be lynching into this group - they're our best chance of hitting mafia. ObviousOne is a good example of this. The majority of his day 1 play appears unusually hesitant almost as if he's reluctant to actually call anyone out:

Or your guy Felkyr, though there's something to perhaps counter that. Once upon a time, VE apologized before leaving for having to leave the thread to go to work and people went nuts on him, and he was town. He was just being courteous. Is Felkyr just being courteous in the post you quoted? Like, just out of virtue of who he is? Can't know, first game.

On August 31 2013 03:32 ObviousOne wrote:
On August 30 2013 23:48 ShiaoPi wrote:
hai guys catching up

On August 31 2013 00:06 ShiaoPi wrote:
skimmed all over this thread, lets go kill WoS? only one who stuck out for me in this initial read

##Vote: WaveofShadow

Maybe this one if it's going to live in a perpetual state of catch-up? It's hard to pick. WOS voted Shiao back, this whole thing kinda went nowhere. Can we get some resolution between you two? Hug it out? Fight it out? 20 paces and draw lightsabers?

Furthermore, the one post in which he actually offers any sort of analysis/argument (on myself) is very similar to the arguments that multiple other people have brought up and also contains such nonsense as:
Being Brown is the essence of being unreadable. --> There's only really one question here: does Hiro's role have anything to do with Chezinu or the Brotherhood of the Brown? If so, who is the scribe? If not, there's no reason for him to be brown. Also, he's doing Brown wrong.


I'd like for everyone to share their opinions about him.


How about randombum instead? I kinda liked OO's last post.
They both have less than a page but randombum looks worse IMO

Explain it to me.


Alright so when deciding between the two let's ignore that they both have 1 page of filter.
OO's posts tend to have some insight or original thoughts in them, for example:
- weird vayne 3p read
- snb seems to be okay with a lot of lynches
- cakepie is a coinflip
- hiro stopping axle plan instead of asking about it makes him scum

I'm not saying I agree with these things but at least they're there.

I dare you to make a similar list about randombum. All he has are questions and filler.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
September 02 2013 18:13 GMT
#2168
What are you talking about Clarity, OO's last post was GARBS
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
September 02 2013 18:16 GMT
#2169
On September 03 2013 03:11 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 03 2013 03:08 Oatsmaster wrote:
On September 03 2013 03:05 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On September 03 2013 03:04 Oatsmaster wrote:
On September 03 2013 02:39 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Can you rationalize him going "Geript looks really town don't lynch him he will flip town"

to

"Geript confirmed scum"

Due to BH flipping as town?

Its called Geript dayvigging arguably the strongest town player in the game.
Remeber SnB from that game a while ago? did the exact same thing. Was scum.


Geript =/= SnB. Didn't read the game. A lot of people thought BH was scum too.

BH is a really bad target for a vig.

Its a complete scumtell. Makes 0 sense for towngeript who knows how good BH is, to fuck around for 2 days and shoot him. It makes sense for scum geript after he got caught for the first day and then just take out the strongest townie anyway.

SEE.


who should he have shot, then?

Not BH.
Ceph
Mr Z
OO
Randombum

I dunno, think of a scummy lurker.
No gg, No skill.
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
September 02 2013 18:17 GMT
#2170
Nah it wasn't. I don't think hiro is scum at this time but his case wasn't that bad.

Hiro refused to go along with the plan and thus had something to fear. --> No statement that it would contradict his own powers or play, simply disregarded it entirely on some crazy power scheme. Where does Hiro get the idea that Axle is going to empower the people voting for him? I'm not seeing it. I see Axle trying to further his own goals with these votes.

I like this part particularly.

Besides, BH also had a scumread on hiro at that time too so unless you're calling him bad too...
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
September 02 2013 18:19 GMT
#2171
[QUOTE]On September 03 2013 03:16 Oatsmaster wrote:
[QUOTE]On September 03 2013 03:11 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
[QUOTE]On September 03 2013 03:08 Oatsmaster wrote:
[QUOTE]On September 03 2013 03:05 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
[QUOTE]On September 03 2013 03:04 Oatsmaster wrote:
[QUOTE]On September 03 2013 02:39 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Can you rationalize him going "Geript looks really town don't lynch him he will flip town"

to

"Geript confirmed scum"

Due to BH flipping as town?[/QUOTE]
Its called Geript dayvigging arguably the strongest town player in the game.
Remeber SnB from that game a while ago? did the exact same thing. Was scum.[/QUOTE]

Geript =/= SnB. Didn't read the game. A lot of people thought BH was scum too.[/QUOTE]
BH is a really bad target for a vig.

Its a complete scumtell. Makes 0 sense for towngeript who knows how good BH is, to fuck around for 2 days and shoot him. It makes sense for scum geript after he got caught for the first day and then just take out the strongest townie anyway.

SEE.
[/QUOTE]

Why didn't you convince him to shoot one of those people, then?
[QUOTE]On September 01 2013 14:08 Oatsmaster wrote:
geript town guys.
Not voterigger, some role that switches all the votes on you to another target.
lol BH again victim of the lynch [/QUOTE]

You did nothing to stop him from lynching BH.

[QUOTE]On September 01 2013 05:08 Oatsmaster wrote:
then we vote BH tmr cause hes a punk.
Night dudes.[/QUOTE]

Really? You're next post was "Welp, gonna waste 2 days cus we gonna lynch geript"

Nice try, Oats.You sat on the sidelines as Geript killed BH. You can't complain about his shot because you did NOTHING to stop it.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
September 02 2013 18:20 GMT
#2172
Why didn't you convince him to shoot one of those people, then?

On September 01 2013 14:08 Oatsmaster wrote:
geript town guys.
Not voterigger, some role that switches all the votes on you to another target.
lol BH again victim of the lynch


You did nothing to stop him from lynching BH.

On September 01 2013 05:08 Oatsmaster wrote:
then we vote BH tmr cause hes a punk.
Night dudes.


Really? You're next post was "Welp, gonna waste 2 days cus we gonna lynch geript"

Nice try, Oats.You sat on the sidelines as Geript killed BH. You can't complain about his shot because you did NOTHING to stop it.

- easier to read
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
September 02 2013 18:24 GMT
#2173
[QUOTE]On September 03 2013 03:19 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
[QUOTE]On September 03 2013 03:16 Oatsmaster wrote:
[QUOTE]On September 03 2013 03:11 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
[QUOTE]On September 03 2013 03:08 Oatsmaster wrote:
[QUOTE]On September 03 2013 03:05 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
[QUOTE]On September 03 2013 03:04 Oatsmaster wrote:
[QUOTE]On September 03 2013 02:39 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Can you rationalize him going "Geript looks really town don't lynch him he will flip town"

to

"Geript confirmed scum"

Due to BH flipping as town?[/QUOTE]
Its called Geript dayvigging arguably the strongest town player in the game.
Remeber SnB from that game a while ago? did the exact same thing. Was scum.[/QUOTE]

Geript =/= SnB. Didn't read the game. A lot of people thought BH was scum too.[/QUOTE]
BH is a really bad target for a vig.

Its a complete scumtell. Makes 0 sense for towngeript who knows how good BH is, to fuck around for 2 days and shoot him. It makes sense for scum geript after he got caught for the first day and then just take out the strongest townie anyway.

SEE.
[/QUOTE]

Why didn't you convince him to shoot one of those people, then?
[QUOTE]On September 01 2013 14:08 Oatsmaster wrote:
geript town guys.
Not voterigger, some role that switches all the votes on you to another target.
lol BH again victim of the lynch [/QUOTE]

You did nothing to stop him from lynching BH.

[QUOTE]On September 01 2013 05:08 Oatsmaster wrote:
then we vote BH tmr cause hes a punk.
Night dudes.[/QUOTE]

Really? You're next post was "Welp, gonna waste 2 days cus we gonna lynch geript"

Nice try, Oats.You sat on the sidelines as Geript killed BH. You can't complain about his shot because you did NOTHING to stop it.[/QUOTE]
everyone thought he was lying.

Also, once BH flipped, im wrong and I reasses. Do you find anything weird about that?
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
September 02 2013 18:24 GMT
#2174
everyone thought he was lying.

Also, once BH flipped, im wrong and I reasses. Do you find anything weird about that?
No gg, No skill.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
September 02 2013 18:26 GMT
#2175
On September 03 2013 03:24 Oatsmaster wrote:
everyone thought he was lying.

Also, once BH flipped, im wrong and I reasses. Do you find anything weird about that?


Everyone thought BH was lying. Yourself included. So everyone thought BH was scum.

SO HOW WAS BH A BAD CHOICE OF LYNCH?

It makes no more sense for scum to lynch him than town. Town thought he was mafia too, considering a ton of people did.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
September 02 2013 18:29 GMT
#2176
Like I can't actually believe your entire reasoning for wanting Geript dead is because he lynched BH who happened to flip town.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
September 02 2013 18:30 GMT
#2177
On September 03 2013 03:29 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Like I can't actually believe your entire reasoning for wanting Geript dead is because he lynched BH who happened to flip town.


ebwop: that's it at it's core, everything else is wifom because 'geript wanted to take out the strongest townie'
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
September 02 2013 18:30 GMT
#2178
On September 03 2013 03:26 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 03 2013 03:24 Oatsmaster wrote:
everyone thought he was lying.

Also, once BH flipped, im wrong and I reasses. Do you find anything weird about that?


Everyone thought BH was lying. Yourself included. So everyone thought BH was scum.

SO HOW WAS BH A BAD CHOICE OF LYNCH?

It makes no more sense for scum to lynch him than town. Town thought he was mafia too, considering a ton of people did.

BH was lying about what?

No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
September 02 2013 18:31 GMT
#2179
On September 03 2013 03:29 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Like I can't actually believe your entire reasoning for wanting Geript dead is because he lynched BH who happened to flip town.

and the fact that he has been absurdly useless and I havent even noticed his posting since the end of day 1.....
No gg, No skill.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
September 02 2013 18:34 GMT
#2180
On September 03 2013 03:31 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 03 2013 03:29 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Like I can't actually believe your entire reasoning for wanting Geript dead is because he lynched BH who happened to flip town.

and the fact that he has been absurdly useless and I havent even noticed his posting since the end of day 1.....


And that's like half the thread. =\

On September 03 2013 03:30 Oatsmaster wrote:
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On September 03 2013 03:26 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On September 03 2013 03:24 Oatsmaster wrote:
everyone thought he was lying.

Also, once BH flipped, im wrong and I reasses. Do you find anything weird about that?


Everyone thought BH was lying. Yourself included. So everyone thought BH was scum.

SO HOW WAS BH A BAD CHOICE OF LYNCH?

It makes no more sense for scum to lynch him than town. Town thought he was mafia too, considering a ton of people did.

BH was lying about what?



I know you were talking about everyone thought geript was lying. But there were a bunch of people who thought BH was mafia (lying) and that it would be a good shot. Did you not think BH was scum?

On August 31 2013 03:04 Oatsmaster wrote:
lol BH bad case, lets lynch BH!!!!!


But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
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