Newbie Mini Mafia XLVI

On August 19 2013 07:35 justanothertownie wrote:
Ok, I read Deus filter again and I really don't like it.

He looked very motivated pre game and you describe him as an agressive, active townie in the last newbie game.
I don't see that at all in this game.

He started with some policy posts without saying anything. That's ok in itself but after that his activity really dropped down.
He wasn't agressive instead he asked generic questions like this:


After I mentioned that policy talk doesn't add that much he quickly backed off. Feels really defensive (although this post isn't that bad apart from that).

His scumhunting pretty much only revolved around lynching lurkers. Easy thing to do as scum.

What seems weird to me is his stance on iVLosk. First he defends him.

Then he is suspicious of him:


Shortly after that Losk is town suddenly:

But why don't vote for our townread, right?

Then there is this:

Followed by:

Finally he claims not to have known this is plurality lynch which has been stated several times in the thread. He either doesn't read the thread or this is a bad excuse for his weird voting.


I really would like to hear his reasoning for all of this. Also he should be way more active Day2 if he is town because right now I am really worried about him.

On August 19 2013 19:46 justanothertownie wrote:
So Deus, you don't like it if I quote you - ok. I don't like to quote such an enormous post anyways.
So here is my answer to you but first:
I thought about the whole thing since yesterday and I will admit that the lynch conclusions alone are not enough to forge a solid read on someone. I got caught up in this because your voting was really stupid even if it wasn't scum motivated. If you read what I said you know that I already mentioned it doesn't make so much sense for scum to voteswitch like that if iVLosk is town. And iVlosk is right that this is kind of an association case and that they are bad.

Still I don't really like how you responded to my case on you and I will tell you why.
Yeah, I quoted a shitton if you want so say it like that but I always explained what's scummy about it if it doesn't speak for itself like your voting pattern. You don't even adress one point of my case directly instead you are saying I am scum for pushing you? Wow, now I am impressed. Thats's the scummy way to "defend" against a case.

You are absolutely right - a townie should change his reads if there is new information but did you really do that? What happened between your vote on iVlosk and your vote on Xzavier that changed your mind and if there is nothing why did you vote for iVLosk in the first place? If you can explain your thought process through yesterday to me instead of just claiming there is no way scum would do that I would consider changing my read on you. Also please explain to me why you didn't know it was plurality lynch when it was mentioned several times before the lynch (did you read the thread at all?).
So far I see your case on me is that I am agreeing with people on things + OMGUS. Yeah, great case.

Other than that:
I am suspicious of Omni myself. He is obviously right about me but if I understand him correctly he obsed before he replaced so it is easy to know who looks townie to people and who doesn't and scum likes to give townreads. It is easy for them to give strong reads because they know who is town and who isn't.
But what really gets me thinking about him is his reasoning. He doesn't even really consider iVLosk to be scum and still insists on you or slam being scum and I don't follow that.
There still is only one alive player who I really have a considerable townread on and it's not him.

I would really like you to keep being active Day2 and to keep posting reads. If this means you have to push me - do it.
The same goes for iVLosk who didn't contribute anything for a long time now. I don't want to call him scum for not defending himself before the lynch anymore because it was very shortly before the deadline that he got voted but still several people were suspicious of him and there was always the possibility of him getting lynched earlier. I don't know what to think of him.
It really sucks that slam is afk for half of the dayphase btw.