If I had not voted slam Lone would't have switched(I'm pretty sure about that).
Nobody in their right mind would think it is scummy for me to vote you in that situation.

justanothertownie

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August 20 2013 22:43 GMT

#947

I obviously did not know.

justanothertownie

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August 20 2013 22:45 GMT

#949

On August 21 2013 07:44 Holyflare wrote:
Why would he ever risk it when he could just go on you and 3 people would be on you??? Nobody would ask any questions

That's the point here.

justanothertownie

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August 20 2013 22:52 GMT

#952

On August 21 2013 07:49 DeusXmachina wrote:

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Because I took a very strong stance on JAT. If I got lynched, I would flip town, and people would start questioning JAT or reconsidering my reads.

Almost everyone thought you are scummy. Why should they start questioning me for voting you if I had the most reason of all people to think you are scummy?

justanothertownie

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August 20 2013 22:54 GMT

#953

Also I don't really follow your logic. In a 2 player scumteam there is no reason to bus your partner if it isn't absolutely necessary.

justanothertownie

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August 20 2013 23:01 GMT

#957

You are aware of the fact that slam was a scum role and not a goon, right? Great idea to bus my only scumbuddy who is not a goon and play 1 vs 5 from there on without any pressing reason for it.

justanothertownie

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August 20 2013 23:02 GMT

#958

On August 21 2013 07:57 DeusXmachina wrote:

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Don't you think people would start questioning those who voted against me. Escpecially you because you had the biggest motive to vote me off? It could be taken both ways.

Or are you saying that I have been playing so terribly that nobody would doubt your intentions?

If you want to put it this way. Yes, that's what I'm saying.
If people who voted you needed to be questionend this would be almost everyone.

justanothertownie

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August 20 2013 23:04 GMT

#960

I can't discuss this with you because I didn't follow that game but if he did this without being forced to I would be really surprised.

justanothertownie

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August 20 2013 23:08 GMT

#967

On August 21 2013 08:06 Holyflare wrote:
Ties are no lynch

Really? I thought it would be like Omni said.

justanothertownie

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August 20 2013 23:22 GMT

#972

Doesn't make any sense. But I see why Deus could have thought it was majority Day1.

justanothertownie

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August 20 2013 23:26 GMT

#975

On August 21 2013 08:25 iVLosK! wrote:

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Person reaching the number of votes first is lynched.

If I have 4 votes and you have 4 votes but I received 4 votes first, I am lynched.

Yeah, I was operating under this assumption, too.

justanothertownie

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August 20 2013 23:32 GMT

#979

I guess cora just forgot to change the part about the voting under Time Cycle when he changed the voting rules pre game.

justanothertownie

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August 21 2013 11:12 GMT

#988

On August 21 2013 13:58 DeusXmachina wrote:
I have been thinking about the Alakaslam vote. I realize, that it is very unlikely that JAT would try to bus a scum mate in the way he did. Furthermore, like you guys said, it is even more unlikely that scum would come to such a conclusion on a short notice, as it would require talk between both Alakaslam and JAT. The more likely possibility is that JAT is town, and voted off a scum. So that being said, this is my formal apology for tunneling you JAT. I was convinced that you were scum, so I concluded that your actions were scummy despite the more likely alternative. I have learned this is called confirmation bias. I know this is what you guys tried to tell me, but the important thing now is I am on the right track. I am sure it must have been frustrating!

The best thing I have done this game, is defending myself, during what would have been a mislynch, and my case against Omni. I will re-evaluate Omni and iV in the days to come. I think my case against Omni still has some applicable points. However, I must make sure I am not creating evidence when there is non.

So my final thoughts: In order to be an asset to town, I will do what I can to help out by pursuing the two likeliest targets, Omni and JAT. I think the best way to communicate to you guys that I am town, is to admit that I was wrong, and move on.

It's ok.

I think your points against Omni weren't that bad before slams flip but now it's not very likely that he is scum. It is not impossible though because he immediately voted you and stayed on you the whole dayphase but try to look at the game from his point of view:

He joined with a townread on me, Lone and koshi (very likely all correct). This means there were only 4 players who could be scum for him. There is Losk (who he claimed to have a slight townread on) and the other 3 of them were on the Xzavier lynch. It makes sense for him to think at least one scum (if not both) was on Xzavier.
Before the slam lynch I didn't rule out a possible iV/Omni team because I couldn't understand the townread but this is impossible now so it doesn't really make sense for scum Omni to push only you/slam.

I think the most straigth forward lynch Day3 is iV. He has this weird connection to Alakaslam where they talk about stuff only they seem to make sense of while slam sheeps him all the time. That's not a very strong point but if iVlosk is scum Alakaslams actions Day1 finally make sense (I mentioned this earlier). Add to that how iV didn't do shit the whole game (and getting towncred for it, lol) and how he voted for Lone Day2 who in my eyes was looking very townie and is close to confirmed town now.
If there isn't some gamechanging development tonight he should absolutely be our next target.

I will post some more detailed reads later. I won't bother keeping them to myself because I won't be around for the deadline today and the remaining scum has a few really good nightkill targets (including me) already anyways.

justanothertownie

16324 Posts

August 21 2013 12:05 GMT

#990

There is no such thing as a townslip and the fact that you try to hide behind it doesn't make it more believable.