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Umasi
Profile Joined October 2012
United States1399 Posts
July 28 2013 22:08 GMT
#7
/obs
"Sir, we finally have enough corpses to serve as a ramp for your horse." "THEN LET THE REAPING BEGIN!!"
Umasi
Profile Joined October 2012
United States1399 Posts
August 28 2013 05:20 GMT
#117
if it starts while the newbie game is still going, I'm going to /out
but for now /in
"Sir, we finally have enough corpses to serve as a ramp for your horse." "THEN LET THE REAPING BEGIN!!"
Umasi
Profile Joined October 2012
United States1399 Posts
September 09 2013 01:04 GMT
#127
k game ended, out of newbies
/in
please be gentle
"Sir, we finally have enough corpses to serve as a ramp for your horse." "THEN LET THE REAPING BEGIN!!"
Umasi
Profile Joined October 2012
United States1399 Posts
September 12 2013 22:45 GMT
#166
we should wait for people imho.
not my choice though
"Sir, we finally have enough corpses to serve as a ramp for your horse." "THEN LET THE REAPING BEGIN!!"
Umasi
Profile Joined October 2012
United States1399 Posts
September 14 2013 01:30 GMT
#180
/out, until golden sun finishes
"Sir, we finally have enough corpses to serve as a ramp for your horse." "THEN LET THE REAPING BEGIN!!"
Umasi
Profile Joined October 2012
United States1399 Posts
September 17 2013 01:52 GMT
#202
FINE I'LL IN BECAUSE WAVE WANTS ME TO
NOW HOLYFLARE GET IN HERE
/in
"Sir, we finally have enough corpses to serve as a ramp for your horse." "THEN LET THE REAPING BEGIN!!"
Umasi
Profile Joined October 2012
United States1399 Posts
September 21 2013 06:06 GMT
#650
On September 21 2013 11:55 kushm4sta wrote:
btw dp i think you are totally metaable and i plan to do it today to assert my mafia dominance over you

Well if you're both town and you meta him properly, that's not really asserting dominance, that's both him and you playing properly. So either you assume he's scum, or you're scum and he's town. afaik you haven't voted him, so I'm wondering what this post was playing at.
Regarding Pandain afking though, kush is correct, pandain will only post in thread when he has things worth mentioning/agenda worth pressing, and he'll specifically be quiet during points to bait out responses. Idk if he is town or mafia in the game since it's still ongoing (had a townread on him at the end of the mason cycle), so it's not that strange to me that he's not around.
On September 21 2013 11:43 geript wrote:
DarthPunk not being enough of an asshole. He's not town.

On September 21 2013 12:49 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2013 12:44 DarthPunk wrote:
On September 21 2013 12:40 geript wrote:
On September 21 2013 11:34 DarthPunk wrote:
So basically I agree with rayn, I want mocsta to tell us all he is policy voting Kush.

Here's where he should've been looking. DP doesn't post like this as town. No real follow through or bite. Just throwaway generic DP townesque play.

Firstly you're wrong. See GSL III. Secondly meta doesn't work on me. I keep telling you all and you all keep mis-using it. Thirdly I don't buy that you could have such a seemingly solid scum read on me based on that post.

You keep spewing complete bullshit. I'm not going to drop a big as meta case. My points aren't based on meta. I'm not making shit about meta. I only use meta to read a very few people and for the rest it's just a way to accuse people. You're scum flat out get over it.

Isn't your reason for voting him initially specifically because of meta? Like, you wouldn't have come to this conclusion if you were playing your first game for him, right? I have a townread on DP atm after reading the exchange, and I'm specifically confused by your outright lies, and idk if you're just scum or confused.
It feels like you've tried to inject useless garbage into the thread, specifically by saying things that are in no way creating a pro-town environment,
On September 21 2013 13:00 geript wrote:
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On September 21 2013 12:56 DarthPunk wrote:
On September 21 2013 12:52 geript wrote:
On September 21 2013 12:47 DarthPunk wrote:
On September 21 2013 12:45 geript wrote:
On September 21 2013 11:43 geript wrote:
DarthPunk not being enough of an asshole. He's not town.

So that's me saying I'm making a meta case. No DP is the only one who said shit about me making a meta case.

Also. WoS needs to be lynched D2.


OK i changed my mind again you're just an idiot. That is clearly a meta case as you are saying as town I am more of an arsehole; therefore I am scum because I am not being enough of an arsehole. What the fuck does that statement even mean if it is not meta?

Nope. Thought processes between town and scum change automatically. You being a pussy about how you're approaching people shows your innate fear. Very early passive play.


Wow, you're argument has fundamentally changed after you got pressured.
You are wrong so after this game if you are town I am going to shout at you about it in the post game. Anyway rayn is right. I'm not talking to you anymore as it is not productive. I would rather you get vigged than lynched. but I hope you die either way.

Ok. Well you either get lynched today or I shoot you until you're dead. Enjoy bish.

like that.

I hate reading when people just shout 'HE'S SCUM HE'S SCUM' constantly, nothing really results from it that benefits town. ATM Geript is scummiest, suspicious of kush a little bit
"Sir, we finally have enough corpses to serve as a ramp for your horse." "THEN LET THE REAPING BEGIN!!"
Umasi
Profile Joined October 2012
United States1399 Posts
September 21 2013 19:26 GMT
#874
On September 21 2013 22:29 LoneMeow wrote:
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On September 21 2013 22:04 Mocsta wrote:
On September 21 2013 21:55 LoneMeow wrote:
Not sure what to make of this geript vs the world thing.

Mocsta jumping on Pandain (before the ninja vote) seemed weird and I am suspicious.

I do want Pandain to explain his vote though. Until he does,

##Vote: Pandain

I'm here; what don't you like about my explanation here:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=423071&currentpage=35#684


It feels like you were just looking for someone to jump on. That doesn't feel very town way to play D1. Not enough to say I'd have a scum read on you, but I'll be watching your actions.

On September 21 2013 21:55 LoneMeow wrote:
Not sure what to make of this geript vs the world thing.

Mocsta jumping on Pandain (before the ninja vote) seemed weird and I am suspicious.

I do want Pandain to explain his vote though. Until he does,

##Vote: Pandain


Pandains going to come back and explain his vote eventually, pressuring him into doing so won't make him come back FASTER.
Ironically, you just went out and found someone to stick your vote on :|
so I'm suspicious of koshi/lonemeow/no longer kush/kinda geript. Lonemeow most of all
##vote lonemeow
"Sir, we finally have enough corpses to serve as a ramp for your horse." "THEN LET THE REAPING BEGIN!!"
Umasi
Profile Joined October 2012
United States1399 Posts
September 21 2013 19:29 GMT
#879
Rather, here's why Pandain isn't scummy atm, and people who think he is are ridiculous:
Would town afk right after posting their vote?
no.
Would scum?
no.
Would town afk at the beginning of the game after being present?
no.
Would scum?
.......no.
so he SHOULD come talk in thread, but he's not scum because he hasn't. He's just a shitty lurker.
"Sir, we finally have enough corpses to serve as a ramp for your horse." "THEN LET THE REAPING BEGIN!!"
Umasi
Profile Joined October 2012
United States1399 Posts
September 21 2013 19:30 GMT
#880
On September 22 2013 04:28 Koshi wrote:
Dnu why people find me scummy.

I always think you're scummy!
idk, feels a bit off. nothing I'd vote you for atm.
"Sir, we finally have enough corpses to serve as a ramp for your horse." "THEN LET THE REAPING BEGIN!!"
Umasi
Profile Joined October 2012
United States1399 Posts
September 21 2013 19:33 GMT
#881
ebwop
I guess you haven't felt as flippant with things?
"Sir, we finally have enough corpses to serve as a ramp for your horse." "THEN LET THE REAPING BEGIN!!"
Umasi
Profile Joined October 2012
United States1399 Posts
September 21 2013 22:12 GMT
#910
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=426146
"Sir, we finally have enough corpses to serve as a ramp for your horse." "THEN LET THE REAPING BEGIN!!"
Umasi
Profile Joined October 2012
United States1399 Posts
September 21 2013 22:16 GMT
#915
On September 22 2013 07:12 Umasi wrote:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=426146

specifically, that was the game where lonemeow was scum
idk about others
"Sir, we finally have enough corpses to serve as a ramp for your horse." "THEN LET THE REAPING BEGIN!!"
Umasi
Profile Joined October 2012
United States1399 Posts
September 21 2013 22:58 GMT
#950
koshis like a less extreme rayn imo, the way I read him is how sincere he sounds, but I'm still on the fence about him
"Sir, we finally have enough corpses to serve as a ramp for your horse." "THEN LET THE REAPING BEGIN!!"
Umasi
Profile Joined October 2012
United States1399 Posts
September 21 2013 23:03 GMT
#956
I think he took a pretty null stance on both DP and Geript, and is suspicious of mocsta? idk why though, his filters hard to understand, kinda need to read him as he responds to the thread :|

oh tyty for getting filters up maepak
"Sir, we finally have enough corpses to serve as a ramp for your horse." "THEN LET THE REAPING BEGIN!!"
Umasi
Profile Joined October 2012
United States1399 Posts
September 21 2013 23:04 GMT
#957
he hasn't been as opinionated as I'd expect him to be as town
"Sir, we finally have enough corpses to serve as a ramp for your horse." "THEN LET THE REAPING BEGIN!!"
Umasi
Profile Joined October 2012
United States1399 Posts
September 21 2013 23:12 GMT
#967
##unvote
useless to stay on lonemeow if he's not gonna be around :|
/afk
"Sir, we finally have enough corpses to serve as a ramp for your horse." "THEN LET THE REAPING BEGIN!!"
Umasi
Profile Joined October 2012
United States1399 Posts
September 22 2013 07:06 GMT
#1069
On September 22 2013 15:45 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 22 2013 14:45 WaveofShadow wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On September 22 2013 14:22 Mocsta wrote:
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On September 22 2013 14:18 WaveofShadow wrote:
On September 22 2013 14:17 Mocsta wrote:
Voting for Vayne/Coag is ridiculous for Day1. They do this type of play regardless of alignment, and its a total crapshoot.
At least have the kahunas to call it a policy lynch.

Yamato read on me is a joke. Theres nothing to respond to, because his points is "meta" with no extension to how it actually applies to this game.

Waves defense read a touch forced to me. However, a townie has every reason to "refine" their defense as well. So will give him benefit of the doubt for now.

Sentinel has maintained enough activity to not be forgotten, but has essentially contributed nothing. Ideal scum "flying under the radar" play; exacerbated by his coagulation vote here
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=423071&user=[UoN]Sentinel&currentpage=3

Your backing down feels a touch forced to me, as were your original suspicions.

Fine, my specific issue with your defense was the injection of the word "townie" as follows

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On September 22 2013 03:38 WaveofShadow wrote:
Ohai ladies.
I back.

A few things:
For those people asking about my intentions and posting regarding DP: I played a stretch of games with him a little while ago and became fairly confident in my townread of him. Ever since playing voice mafia with him I feel like my ability is now slightly crowded since I know a little more about him and his style. My prodding served two purposes: first of all, as some of you may or may not know, DP likes to play his game with a pinch of salt, that is to say, he gets angry/annoyed pretty easily. As such after delving a little into attempting to determine his alignment I decided to see how he'd react to some dumb (and yet truthful) comments:+ Show Spoiler +

On September 21 2013 13:28 WaveofShadow wrote:
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On September 21 2013 13:26 DarthPunk wrote:
On September 21 2013 13:22 WaveofShadow wrote:
Honestly DP I have a question for you.
Are you town?
If so, do you want to be killed N1?
Do you enjoy being killed N1? (I seem to remember that you don't.)

All of the above questions lead to these ones:
Why go hardcore (as town) right from the get-go if you know it places a target directly onto your back?
If you don't care either way, do you think you would be able to be more useful to the town in the first day than you could be as the game progresses?


YEs
NO
NO

Because clearly trying to look useless as town doesn't work for me in not getting killed (persona 4) so I am trying to play the best I can and be clearly townie and scumhunt so that:

A) I can give town the best possible start if I do die.
B) potentially get medic protected
Also:
C) I feel like posting and scum hunting cause it's fun.

This is also totally how you play as 3P survivor.
Are you 3P DP?


On September 21 2013 14:19 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2013 14:16 DarthPunk wrote:
On September 21 2013 14:10 VisceraEyes wrote:
@DP

geript is by far the most suspicious person in the thread so far. It's possible he'd acting the way he's acting to get reactions or some such retardation, but unless he says as much and I believe him, I have to assume that he's not playing like a moron and that he's scummy for it.

He has no meta case. He has an observation that he's supposedly suspicious over for meta reasons. I don't care enough to go check out the game because I know from my own experiences with you that you're able to have an amicable opening regardless of your alignment. And the rest of what you've done (aside from saying you want me to tunnel a townie -.-) has read pretty town to me.

As it stands, I'm the most suspicious of geript of anyone who's posted.


I basically agree with you but I'm not sure Moron necessarily = scum. I'm also worried about Mocsta and Wave for basically refusing to comment on geript or read that part of the thread. They seem to dismiss it as a squabble and meaningless when it is, in fact, the opposite.

I'm not sure how I am supposed to take people seriously when they don't/refuse to properly read people's posts.

It's pretty damn meaningless.

DP didn't take easy bait here and has actively REALLY attempted to avoid shitting things up despite an aggravating geript (who I'm pretty sure is town, btw) and me to a lesser degree pushing him. More likely town for that as it's really easy to pawn off or excuse early game shitfests/trolling.

The second purpose of my prodding, specifically the questions post, is that not only did I actually want to know the legitimate answers to those questions (which DP answered very well imo) I also wanted to gauge some other reactions to those questions as some people have noticed, is kind of an odd line of questioning and essentially only pertains to DP's specific meta, which I will explain here for people who don't know.

DP is known as a very strong town player. As such he is often a target of mafia kills extremely early in many games, including dying on N0 games before he can even DO anything. He absolutely hates this (almost as much as he hates 3P survivor apparently, for similar reasons---hence my bait about 3P despite there obviously not being one in this game. DP didn't take it ) The reason I asked him here is because as a townie, I very much want a town DP to be on my side and a part of the game as long as possible, so I was wondering if perhaps he would have considered changing his posting style slightly so if town, he could survive mafia hits a while longer. This doesn't appear to be the case and is perfectly fine.
+ Show Spoiler +

Hopefully I will have no caught up to everything relevant regarding me up until recently.
New stuff:
Marv what do you make of justanothertownie's reaction to my questions? Certainly a very easy point of attack, yet even the people who have voted me thus far haven't bothered with it. It honestly looks as though he is hiding behind not knowing DP's meta and as soon as someone provides an explanation for him he will be ready to drop the point of suspicion and will have 'contributed' something.

Yamato, come on dude. You're not that bad.

Frankly, that doesn't read like a natural stream of consciousness to me.

As I said, because it was a defense, I think town or scum could have "refined" that statement by adding the clause "as a townie".

Its an issue to me; but in isolation I don't want to lynch you over it. Overall your posting has been consistent in confidence. Bigger fish to fry; and sentinel represents a higher percentage to be scum as far as I am concerned.

It's an issue to people like you who try to lynch/suspect people over semantics, because then if I don't use those specific words you say something like: "Of course you want a town DP to be on your side as scum!"
It's horseshit, Mocsta. I accept the fact that you've backed down from me because you realized your suspicion was dumb as balls.

So you're voting Sentinel because he's policy voting Coag for being useless huh? What is the difference between this and your vote on Sentinel himself? I don't see it if there is one.
Well fisrtly, you are taking the whole situation out of context. Its quite clear what I took issue in. It is far from semantics. What you wrote was not a genuine thought. It was refined. Its common knowledge that scum are typically the ones who struggle to post and need to incessantly proof-read their posts. So far from semantics.

Nice attempt at ad-hom as well. If you want to keep up this aggressive tone, lay down a vote on me; or shut the fuck up.

My sentinel vote is far from policy lynch. I outlined why I think he is worthy of a vote based on flying under the radar by attempting to appear active, but actually contributing nothing. The same goes for Umasi.

Sentinels, coag vote *was* for being useless etc, which as I outlined prior is dumb. Because players like that are 'lottery draws" on day1, regardless of being town or scum.


What makes it seem like I'm trying to fly under the radar? And I was contributing, why do you say I wasn't?

and it was useless to stay on you lonemeow because it's not the votes going to pressure you at all, and you're still more than likely town.
~and so far, your reaction to it has been pretty townie imo, but this wasn't relevant at the time I unvoted because you hadn't responded~

(oh also, saw this in the mafia database earlier, less than 25% of day 1 lynches actually lynch scum, so truly you are a god among men mocsta)
"Sir, we finally have enough corpses to serve as a ramp for your horse." "THEN LET THE REAPING BEGIN!!"
Umasi
Profile Joined October 2012
United States1399 Posts
September 22 2013 07:17 GMT
#1072
Kush, I have no idea what goes through your head half the time, but whatever it is it's totally kickass.
"Sir, we finally have enough corpses to serve as a ramp for your horse." "THEN LET THE REAPING BEGIN!!"
Umasi
Profile Joined October 2012
United States1399 Posts
September 22 2013 07:25 GMT
#1074
I think ray is probably town
"Sir, we finally have enough corpses to serve as a ramp for your horse." "THEN LET THE REAPING BEGIN!!"
Umasi
Profile Joined October 2012
United States1399 Posts
September 22 2013 07:26 GMT
#1075
wait after reading his post (didn't see it when I posted) he's even more probably town
"Sir, we finally have enough corpses to serve as a ramp for your horse." "THEN LET THE REAPING BEGIN!!"
Umasi
Profile Joined October 2012
United States1399 Posts
September 22 2013 07:30 GMT
#1076
idk, I'm not too suspicious of stutters so far, but you have a good point about him asking you the question.
Ray, what's your read on kush? Is it town because you think stutters is scummy?
rather, it should be.
independently of stutters, what do you think of kush?
"Sir, we finally have enough corpses to serve as a ramp for your horse." "THEN LET THE REAPING BEGIN!!"
Umasi
Profile Joined October 2012
United States1399 Posts
September 22 2013 07:39 GMT
#1079
feel free to ask questions then
(and I don't think I've missed any big issue, I'm just not going to needlessly comment on things that I wouldn't be able to contribute to)
"Sir, we finally have enough corpses to serve as a ramp for your horse." "THEN LET THE REAPING BEGIN!!"
Umasi
Profile Joined October 2012
United States1399 Posts
September 22 2013 07:57 GMT
#1081
I don't see anything noteworthy as scummy in yamatos filter, he's just opinionated enough when it comes to WoS but he's not stupid tunneley, which i like
On September 22 2013 09:33 yamato77 wrote:
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On September 22 2013 09:31 ObviousOne wrote:
On September 22 2013 09:30 yamato77 wrote:
Since I left, almost nothing of consequence has happened.

I am disappoint.

Yamatbro, what you think about this justanothertownie fellow?

Help me make things of consequence happen!

He's probably town.

I like how concise he is, (although nothing of consequence happens), so I guess I have a slight townread on yamato?
I've never played with him before (and I get the impression you have OO?)
(I'm logging gnight)
"Sir, we finally have enough corpses to serve as a ramp for your horse." "THEN LET THE REAPING BEGIN!!"
Umasi
Profile Joined October 2012
United States1399 Posts
September 22 2013 18:02 GMT
#1368
On September 22 2013 17:19 Mocsta wrote:
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On September 22 2013 16:39 Umasi wrote:
feel free to ask questions then


OK. I dont follow the progression here.


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On September 22 2013 16:25 Umasi wrote:
I think ray is probably town


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On September 22 2013 16:26 Umasi wrote:
wait after reading his post (didn't see it when I posted) he's even more probably town


Referring to post
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=423071&currentpage=54#1073

Im more concerned about the first post. Why feel the need to give a free town read on someone that wasn't being discussed at the time.


Because I think he's town. Chairmans just pretty good lynchbait
he certainly was last game, and his play so far has evoked an identical feel.

on another note, find it annoying how you're like 'umasi hasn't talked enough about the important things in the thread' and then ask me about two one liners.
kinda wacky, but I have a town read on you.

idk about FT, slightly scummy for me, because of how contrived his pressure on DP felt for a silly reason
On September 22 2013 23:54 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
I think despite Umasi's allegations to the contrary, he's been contributing nothing of value. After LoneMeow leaves he decides that since he can't get anymore fuel, he'll unvote. And then really all he talks about is people who aren't scummy looking.

I'm switching from Stutters to him because at least with Umasi, if he does end up flipping red then his filter becomes more useful than Stutters who just pushed kush all day. Since apparently pressuring him isn't working and he's lurking harder than ever. We could vig stutters though.

I don't like yamato's big post either. He calls DP mafia, rayn scummy, and then quotes Ray's fluffpost and says HE'S THE SCUM. And he's really got nothing else to show, especially afterwards he doesn't rationalize anything. I'm leaning red on him. Umasi seems more red to me but yamato has more to show for further analysis if he flips red.

But I'll keep my vote on Umasi for now.

##Unvote
##Vote: Umasi


Otherwise, out of the filter dives I want to say something about WoS but I can't quite put my finger on it. Perhaps I'll say something about him and also Koshi when I get back.

thank god your thoughts on me basically are 'if he's red, man we have some things to go on' and 'he hasn't talked about important things!'
Lynching for information is something I'm a firm disbeliever of, I think it's frequently a scum tool
fwiw, I told you guys I'd respond to questions you had for me (and the only one I've seen is mocsta's)
mocsta kinda grouped us together as non-contributing-flying-under-the-radar dudes iirc, so you suddenly voting me with THAT shit reasoning is why I'm voting you, because it feels you're like 'quick target the other dude who's in a similar position to me'


also there's a vote thread, use it

##vote sentinel
"Sir, we finally have enough corpses to serve as a ramp for your horse." "THEN LET THE REAPING BEGIN!!"
Umasi
Profile Joined October 2012
United States1399 Posts
September 22 2013 18:02 GMT
#1369
(still reading through thread btw)
"Sir, we finally have enough corpses to serve as a ramp for your horse." "THEN LET THE REAPING BEGIN!!"
Umasi
Profile Joined October 2012
United States1399 Posts
September 22 2013 18:24 GMT
#1379
On September 23 2013 03:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:
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On September 23 2013 03:02 Umasi wrote:
On September 22 2013 17:19 Mocsta wrote:
On September 22 2013 16:39 Umasi wrote:
feel free to ask questions then


OK. I dont follow the progression here.


On September 22 2013 16:25 Umasi wrote:
I think ray is probably town


On September 22 2013 16:26 Umasi wrote:
wait after reading his post (didn't see it when I posted) he's even more probably town


Referring to post
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=423071&currentpage=54#1073

Im more concerned about the first post. Why feel the need to give a free town read on someone that wasn't being discussed at the time.


Because I think he's town. Chairmans just pretty good lynchbait
he certainly was last game, and his play so far has evoked an identical feel.

on another note, find it annoying how you're like 'umasi hasn't talked enough about the important things in the thread' and then ask me about two one liners.
kinda wacky, but I have a town read on you.

idk about FT, slightly scummy for me, because of how contrived his pressure on DP felt for a silly reason
On September 22 2013 23:54 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
I think despite Umasi's allegations to the contrary, he's been contributing nothing of value. After LoneMeow leaves he decides that since he can't get anymore fuel, he'll unvote. And then really all he talks about is people who aren't scummy looking.

I'm switching from Stutters to him because at least with Umasi, if he does end up flipping red then his filter becomes more useful than Stutters who just pushed kush all day. Since apparently pressuring him isn't working and he's lurking harder than ever. We could vig stutters though.

I don't like yamato's big post either. He calls DP mafia, rayn scummy, and then quotes Ray's fluffpost and says HE'S THE SCUM. And he's really got nothing else to show, especially afterwards he doesn't rationalize anything. I'm leaning red on him. Umasi seems more red to me but yamato has more to show for further analysis if he flips red.

But I'll keep my vote on Umasi for now.

##Unvote
##Vote: Umasi


Otherwise, out of the filter dives I want to say something about WoS but I can't quite put my finger on it. Perhaps I'll say something about him and also Koshi when I get back.

thank god your thoughts on me basically are 'if he's red, man we have some things to go on' and 'he hasn't talked about important things!'
Lynching for information is something I'm a firm disbeliever of, I think it's frequently a scum tool
fwiw, I told you guys I'd respond to questions you had for me (and the only one I've seen is mocsta's)
mocsta kinda grouped us together as non-contributing-flying-under-the-radar dudes iirc, so you suddenly voting me with THAT shit reasoning is why I'm voting you, because it feels you're like 'quick target the other dude who's in a similar position to me'


also there's a vote thread, use it

##vote sentinel

This vote is really bad. It's basically an OMGUS with completely twisting Sentinel's case around. That's exactly how i felt when you unvoted LoneMeow.

Well, let's work through this a bit
I'm town, so when I read the thread and see someone who (according to mocsta (who I've kinda considered an influential townie)) occupies a similar position within the thread as me is immediately voting me for that reason, when he's done exactly the same thing? Why IS he voting me instead of someone else in the thread?
Specifically, why did he choose me to vote
gah I'm not phrasing this very well.
basically why am I scummier to him than other people in the thread is my question.

also, how is this similar to me unvoting lonemeow, that it's bad play or that it's scum?

regardless, I don't think I twisted what he said, I tried to read into what he said.
"Sir, we finally have enough corpses to serve as a ramp for your horse." "THEN LET THE REAPING BEGIN!!"
Umasi
Profile Joined October 2012
United States1399 Posts
September 22 2013 18:36 GMT
#1385
if it was what I'd said in my last post, why would I bother saying it? I was expanding on it since you seemed to want expansion on the topic.
"Sir, we finally have enough corpses to serve as a ramp for your horse." "THEN LET THE REAPING BEGIN!!"
Umasi
Profile Joined October 2012
United States1399 Posts
September 22 2013 18:45 GMT
#1390
dunno, because I'm bad I guess.

Is the reasoning flawed? (because I obviously don't think it is)
"Sir, we finally have enough corpses to serve as a ramp for your horse." "THEN LET THE REAPING BEGIN!!"
Umasi
Profile Joined October 2012
United States1399 Posts
September 22 2013 18:47 GMT
#1393
okay. idk if I can help explain it more :|
so do you think sentinel is town then?
"Sir, we finally have enough corpses to serve as a ramp for your horse." "THEN LET THE REAPING BEGIN!!"
Umasi
Profile Joined October 2012
United States1399 Posts
September 22 2013 18:54 GMT
#1400
Well I understand what you're saying rayn, I just don't know how I can help you figure it out *shrugs*
I read his vote, went 'this is kinda scummy' then thought about why it was scummy.
mocsta kinda grouped us together as non-contributing-flying-under-the-radar dudes iirc, so you suddenly voting me with THAT shit reasoning is why I'm voting you, because it feels you're like 'quick target the other dude who's in a similar position to me'

I'm town, so when I read the thread and see someone who (according to mocsta (who I've kinda considered an influential townie)) occupies a similar position within the thread as me is immediately voting me for that reason, when he's done exactly the same thing? Why IS he voting me instead of someone else in the thread?

I expanded on the first point in the second post, as much as to explain to you guys what it was scummy as well as to figure out myself if it actually was.

*shrug*
if this isn't enough of an explanation go talk to other people in the thread about it I guess
"Sir, we finally have enough corpses to serve as a ramp for your horse." "THEN LET THE REAPING BEGIN!!"
Umasi
Profile Joined October 2012
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September 22 2013 18:55 GMT
#1401
On September 23 2013 03:51 raynpelikoneet wrote:
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On September 23 2013 03:47 Umasi wrote:
okay. idk if I can help explain it more :|
so do you think sentinel is town then?

I do not have a town read on him. I think i have said it before. I dunno how he plays as town but if he continues posting as he has, and does not answer you he is a good lynch. Only thing that looks good to me on him was what he said about you regarding LoneMeow, because that was exactly what i thought when you unvoted him. Why did you unvote him btw? Why not continue pressure on him?


I think I touched on lonemeow a bit somewhere, let me go find the post
On September 22 2013 16:06 Umasi wrote:
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On September 22 2013 15:45 Mocsta wrote:
On September 22 2013 14:45 WaveofShadow wrote:
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On September 22 2013 14:22 Mocsta wrote:
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On September 22 2013 14:18 WaveofShadow wrote:
On September 22 2013 14:17 Mocsta wrote:
Voting for Vayne/Coag is ridiculous for Day1. They do this type of play regardless of alignment, and its a total crapshoot.
At least have the kahunas to call it a policy lynch.

Yamato read on me is a joke. Theres nothing to respond to, because his points is "meta" with no extension to how it actually applies to this game.

Waves defense read a touch forced to me. However, a townie has every reason to "refine" their defense as well. So will give him benefit of the doubt for now.

Sentinel has maintained enough activity to not be forgotten, but has essentially contributed nothing. Ideal scum "flying under the radar" play; exacerbated by his coagulation vote here
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=423071&user=[UoN]Sentinel&currentpage=3

Your backing down feels a touch forced to me, as were your original suspicions.

Fine, my specific issue with your defense was the injection of the word "townie" as follows

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On September 22 2013 03:38 WaveofShadow wrote:
Ohai ladies.
I back.

A few things:
For those people asking about my intentions and posting regarding DP: I played a stretch of games with him a little while ago and became fairly confident in my townread of him. Ever since playing voice mafia with him I feel like my ability is now slightly crowded since I know a little more about him and his style. My prodding served two purposes: first of all, as some of you may or may not know, DP likes to play his game with a pinch of salt, that is to say, he gets angry/annoyed pretty easily. As such after delving a little into attempting to determine his alignment I decided to see how he'd react to some dumb (and yet truthful) comments:+ Show Spoiler +

On September 21 2013 13:28 WaveofShadow wrote:
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On September 21 2013 13:26 DarthPunk wrote:
On September 21 2013 13:22 WaveofShadow wrote:
Honestly DP I have a question for you.
Are you town?
If so, do you want to be killed N1?
Do you enjoy being killed N1? (I seem to remember that you don't.)

All of the above questions lead to these ones:
Why go hardcore (as town) right from the get-go if you know it places a target directly onto your back?
If you don't care either way, do you think you would be able to be more useful to the town in the first day than you could be as the game progresses?


YEs
NO
NO

Because clearly trying to look useless as town doesn't work for me in not getting killed (persona 4) so I am trying to play the best I can and be clearly townie and scumhunt so that:

A) I can give town the best possible start if I do die.
B) potentially get medic protected
Also:
C) I feel like posting and scum hunting cause it's fun.

This is also totally how you play as 3P survivor.
Are you 3P DP?


On September 21 2013 14:19 WaveofShadow wrote:
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On September 21 2013 14:16 DarthPunk wrote:
On September 21 2013 14:10 VisceraEyes wrote:
@DP

geript is by far the most suspicious person in the thread so far. It's possible he'd acting the way he's acting to get reactions or some such retardation, but unless he says as much and I believe him, I have to assume that he's not playing like a moron and that he's scummy for it.

He has no meta case. He has an observation that he's supposedly suspicious over for meta reasons. I don't care enough to go check out the game because I know from my own experiences with you that you're able to have an amicable opening regardless of your alignment. And the rest of what you've done (aside from saying you want me to tunnel a townie -.-) has read pretty town to me.

As it stands, I'm the most suspicious of geript of anyone who's posted.


I basically agree with you but I'm not sure Moron necessarily = scum. I'm also worried about Mocsta and Wave for basically refusing to comment on geript or read that part of the thread. They seem to dismiss it as a squabble and meaningless when it is, in fact, the opposite.

I'm not sure how I am supposed to take people seriously when they don't/refuse to properly read people's posts.

It's pretty damn meaningless.

DP didn't take easy bait here and has actively REALLY attempted to avoid shitting things up despite an aggravating geript (who I'm pretty sure is town, btw) and me to a lesser degree pushing him. More likely town for that as it's really easy to pawn off or excuse early game shitfests/trolling.

The second purpose of my prodding, specifically the questions post, is that not only did I actually want to know the legitimate answers to those questions (which DP answered very well imo) I also wanted to gauge some other reactions to those questions as some people have noticed, is kind of an odd line of questioning and essentially only pertains to DP's specific meta, which I will explain here for people who don't know.

DP is known as a very strong town player. As such he is often a target of mafia kills extremely early in many games, including dying on N0 games before he can even DO anything. He absolutely hates this (almost as much as he hates 3P survivor apparently, for similar reasons---hence my bait about 3P despite there obviously not being one in this game. DP didn't take it ) The reason I asked him here is because as a townie, I very much want a town DP to be on my side and a part of the game as long as possible, so I was wondering if perhaps he would have considered changing his posting style slightly so if town, he could survive mafia hits a while longer. This doesn't appear to be the case and is perfectly fine.
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Hopefully I will have no caught up to everything relevant regarding me up until recently.
New stuff:
Marv what do you make of justanothertownie's reaction to my questions? Certainly a very easy point of attack, yet even the people who have voted me thus far haven't bothered with it. It honestly looks as though he is hiding behind not knowing DP's meta and as soon as someone provides an explanation for him he will be ready to drop the point of suspicion and will have 'contributed' something.

Yamato, come on dude. You're not that bad.

Frankly, that doesn't read like a natural stream of consciousness to me.

As I said, because it was a defense, I think town or scum could have "refined" that statement by adding the clause "as a townie".

Its an issue to me; but in isolation I don't want to lynch you over it. Overall your posting has been consistent in confidence. Bigger fish to fry; and sentinel represents a higher percentage to be scum as far as I am concerned.

It's an issue to people like you who try to lynch/suspect people over semantics, because then if I don't use those specific words you say something like: "Of course you want a town DP to be on your side as scum!"
It's horseshit, Mocsta. I accept the fact that you've backed down from me because you realized your suspicion was dumb as balls.

So you're voting Sentinel because he's policy voting Coag for being useless huh? What is the difference between this and your vote on Sentinel himself? I don't see it if there is one.
Well fisrtly, you are taking the whole situation out of context. Its quite clear what I took issue in. It is far from semantics. What you wrote was not a genuine thought. It was refined. Its common knowledge that scum are typically the ones who struggle to post and need to incessantly proof-read their posts. So far from semantics.

Nice attempt at ad-hom as well. If you want to keep up this aggressive tone, lay down a vote on me; or shut the fuck up.

My sentinel vote is far from policy lynch. I outlined why I think he is worthy of a vote based on flying under the radar by attempting to appear active, but actually contributing nothing. The same goes for Umasi.

Sentinels, coag vote *was* for being useless etc, which as I outlined prior is dumb. Because players like that are 'lottery draws" on day1, regardless of being town or scum.


What makes it seem like I'm trying to fly under the radar? And I was contributing, why do you say I wasn't?

and it was useless to stay on you lonemeow because it's not the votes going to pressure you at all, and you're still more than likely town.
~and so far, your reaction to it has been pretty townie imo, but this wasn't relevant at the time I unvoted because you hadn't responded~

(oh also, saw this in the mafia database earlier, less than 25% of day 1 lynches actually lynch scum, so truly you are a god among men mocsta)

found it
"Sir, we finally have enough corpses to serve as a ramp for your horse." "THEN LET THE REAPING BEGIN!!"
Umasi
Profile Joined October 2012
United States1399 Posts
September 22 2013 19:10 GMT
#1407
annoying thing is I don't feel that strongly about the sentinel lynch, just stronger than other lynches that have been tossed around.
kinda want to see what people think though
"Sir, we finally have enough corpses to serve as a ramp for your horse." "THEN LET THE REAPING BEGIN!!"
Umasi
Profile Joined October 2012
United States1399 Posts
September 22 2013 19:16 GMT
#1415
On September 23 2013 04:14 LoneMeow wrote:
I can't get a scum read on anyone but Umasi, and I'm notoriously biased against him so that's almost guaranteed to be wrong. I'll vote him anyway since I have to vote someone. Not sure I'll wake up for the deadline but I'll try.

Chairman Ray is lynchbait like in my last newbie, so probably town. IMHO his "last hour shenigans" plan is terrible, though.

##Vote: Umasi

Here for a while if you want to ask me something.

:| then don't vote for me if you think you're wrong
"Sir, we finally have enough corpses to serve as a ramp for your horse." "THEN LET THE REAPING BEGIN!!"
Umasi
Profile Joined October 2012
United States1399 Posts
September 22 2013 19:28 GMT
#1430
lonemeow a vote at random is more likely to hit scum than voting yourself if you know you're town
"Sir, we finally have enough corpses to serve as a ramp for your horse." "THEN LET THE REAPING BEGIN!!"
Umasi
Profile Joined October 2012
United States1399 Posts
September 22 2013 19:40 GMT
#1439
idk, feels ominous, I'm not on board with a lonemeow lynch, but I don't have a way to sensibly defend him :|
"Sir, we finally have enough corpses to serve as a ramp for your horse." "THEN LET THE REAPING BEGIN!!"
Umasi
Profile Joined October 2012
United States1399 Posts
September 22 2013 19:47 GMT
#1442
I'm afk for a bit, lonemeow, just comment on things that feel scummy and don't feel scummy, and if you think I'm scummiest, vote me and don't undermine the push by saying 'but I'm bad at reading umasi'
stick to your guns and have confidence

although obviously I'd prefer it if you didn't vote me :3
/afk
"Sir, we finally have enough corpses to serve as a ramp for your horse." "THEN LET THE REAPING BEGIN!!"
Umasi
Profile Joined October 2012
United States1399 Posts
September 22 2013 23:34 GMT
#1639
A: when does day1 end and B: Can we get a vote count?
At this point, I don't know why he'd be biased against me, I just kinda took his word for it, but marv bringing up the previous games makes me wonder, although I probably won't lynch him today.
Why are people voting mocsta/want to lynch mocsta/think he is scummy/suspicious of him/whatever? I kinda think he's town.
"Sir, we finally have enough corpses to serve as a ramp for your horse." "THEN LET THE REAPING BEGIN!!"
Umasi
Profile Joined October 2012
United States1399 Posts
September 22 2013 23:35 GMT
#1641
ebwop: he in the first sentence is referring to lonemeow
"Sir, we finally have enough corpses to serve as a ramp for your horse." "THEN LET THE REAPING BEGIN!!"
Umasi
Profile Joined October 2012
United States1399 Posts
September 22 2013 23:43 GMT
#1655
If I had to say we did or we didn't, I'd say we didn't, at least not that I'm aware of, in terms of when we were opposing alignments. We just had a scum game with eachother (the recent newbie) but that's not relevant because he shouldn't build bias out of that.

Mocsta felt town because he seemed engaged in getting me involved, and has seemed active and like a leader, but I don't have a way to hard defend my read on him other than 'kind of a gut feel.'
I guess the one thing that offsets me about him is his complaints that I was avoiding bigger issues, and when he had the opportunity to ask me my thoghts, he asked me a single one-liner about chairman ray before the wagon formed and didn't follow it up with anything else, so that was kinda 'ehhhhhhh'

On September 23 2013 08:36 yamato77 wrote:
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On September 23 2013 08:34 Umasi wrote:
A: when does day1 end and B: Can we get a vote count?
At this point, I don't know why he'd be biased against me, I just kinda took his word for it, but marv bringing up the previous games makes me wonder, although I probably won't lynch him today.
Why are people voting mocsta/want to lynch mocsta/think he is scummy/suspicious of him/whatever? I kinda think he's town.

Can you confirm or deny that LM and yourself have a history?

Read my posts about Mocsta, and/or justify your townread of him.


I'll go read them now
"Sir, we finally have enough corpses to serve as a ramp for your horse." "THEN LET THE REAPING BEGIN!!"
Umasi
Profile Joined October 2012
United States1399 Posts
September 22 2013 23:48 GMT
#1658
I didn't really get anything out of your talking about mocsta tbth, something like 'he's an asshole kind of but not really and won't talk to me lynch him.'?
I'm not seeing what makes him scum, basically, but if there's a post that I missed that sums up the argument against him I'll read it, could really find anything specific in yamato's filter, just lots of @mocsta stuff.
/afk for a bit eating dinner
"Sir, we finally have enough corpses to serve as a ramp for your horse." "THEN LET THE REAPING BEGIN!!"
Umasi
Profile Joined October 2012
United States1399 Posts
September 23 2013 01:57 GMT
#1790
sentinel vote for justice!
do it do it do it
"Sir, we finally have enough corpses to serve as a ramp for your horse." "THEN LET THE REAPING BEGIN!!"
Umasi
Profile Joined October 2012
United States1399 Posts
September 23 2013 01:59 GMT
#1795
no I mean people should vote sentinel for justice :|
"Sir, we finally have enough corpses to serve as a ramp for your horse." "THEN LET THE REAPING BEGIN!!"
Umasi
Profile Joined October 2012
United States1399 Posts
September 23 2013 02:40 GMT
#1821
oh god dammit.
"Sir, we finally have enough corpses to serve as a ramp for your horse." "THEN LET THE REAPING BEGIN!!"
Umasi
Profile Joined October 2012
United States1399 Posts
September 23 2013 05:19 GMT
#1917
On September 23 2013 14:17 WaveofShadow wrote:
I would like us to consolidate on probable vig targets by tomorrow afternoon.
High content/quality posters should not be vigged. I am not concerned about Geript atm.



what do you mean probable?
"Sir, we finally have enough corpses to serve as a ramp for your horse." "THEN LET THE REAPING BEGIN!!"
Umasi
Profile Joined October 2012
United States1399 Posts
September 23 2013 05:24 GMT
#1920
oh /derp
I was like
'why do we need to predict who's going to get shot :|'
lonemeow comes to mind as a good vig target imo, since he's just a giant question mark atm with his martyr.
"Sir, we finally have enough corpses to serve as a ramp for your horse." "THEN LET THE REAPING BEGIN!!"
Umasi
Profile Joined October 2012
United States1399 Posts
September 23 2013 05:25 GMT
#1921
oh btw
HI BLAZINGHAND
PLEASE DON'T LIE TO ME THIS GAME :<<<<<<< THAT HURT MY FEELINGS
"Sir, we finally have enough corpses to serve as a ramp for your horse." "THEN LET THE REAPING BEGIN!!"
Umasi
Profile Joined October 2012
United States1399 Posts
September 23 2013 05:32 GMT
#1925
sounds logical.
Add lonemeow to the list
"Sir, we finally have enough corpses to serve as a ramp for your horse." "THEN LET THE REAPING BEGIN!!"
Umasi
Profile Joined October 2012
United States1399 Posts
September 24 2013 02:21 GMT
#2705
I could lynch FT or Sentinel atm
"Sir, we finally have enough corpses to serve as a ramp for your horse." "THEN LET THE REAPING BEGIN!!"
Umasi
Profile Joined October 2012
United States1399 Posts
September 24 2013 02:23 GMT
#2707
On July 29 2013 05:21 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Signups


1: DarthPunk
2: raynpelikoneet
3: WaveofShadow
4: gumshoe
5: yamato77
6: kushm4sta
7: Koshi
8: ObviousOne
9: Chairman Ray
10: FirmTofu
11: Pandain
12: Cephiro
13: Mr. Cheesecake
14: Xzavier
15: Coagulation
16: Stutters695
17: Onegu
18: Zenatsu
19: [UoN]Sentinel
20: VisceraEyes
21: VayneAuthority
22: geript
23: Risen
24: LoneMeow
25: marvellosity
26: Zaragon
27: Mattchew
28: Umasi
29: justanothertownie
30: Mocsta

Town players remaining=24
Scum Players remaining=6
Scum KP=3 (#of scum/2 rounded up

+ Show Spoiler [Flips+Roles] +

+ Show Spoiler [Replacements] +
1: Malongo
2: deconduo
3: iamperfection
4: Blazinghand
5: strongandbig

+ Show Spoiler [Obs] +
1: goodkarma
2: heavenz
3: ahswtini
4: Obzy

and coag has been vocal about shooting Vayne.
what assumption did he make?
"Sir, we finally have enough corpses to serve as a ramp for your horse." "THEN LET THE REAPING BEGIN!!"
Umasi
Profile Joined October 2012
United States1399 Posts
September 24 2013 02:41 GMT
#2713
kush I linked the fucking post
scum kp=3
"Sir, we finally have enough corpses to serve as a ramp for your horse." "THEN LET THE REAPING BEGIN!!"
Umasi
Profile Joined October 2012
United States1399 Posts
September 24 2013 02:42 GMT
#2715
FT what do you think of sentinel?
"Sir, we finally have enough corpses to serve as a ramp for your horse." "THEN LET THE REAPING BEGIN!!"
Umasi
Profile Joined October 2012
United States1399 Posts
September 24 2013 20:47 GMT
#2961
Sentinel's thoughts on lonemeow mirror mine pretty hard atm, and his read on firmtofu seems pretty reasonable and thought through. so now I'm not sure if I want to lynch firmtofu or mattchew (both for reasons stated by others)
(if people want to ask me questions I'm semi-around, writing up a lab report, will check in occasionally)
"Sir, we finally have enough corpses to serve as a ramp for your horse." "THEN LET THE REAPING BEGIN!!"
Umasi
Profile Joined October 2012
United States1399 Posts
September 24 2013 22:02 GMT
#3070
On September 25 2013 06:23 FirmTofu wrote:
I was just reading Umasi's filter and I'm having a bit of trouble following his thought process.
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On September 23 2013 03:02 Umasi wrote:
On September 22 2013 17:19 Mocsta wrote:
On September 22 2013 16:39 Umasi wrote:
feel free to ask questions then


OK. I dont follow the progression here.


On September 22 2013 16:25 Umasi wrote:
I think ray is probably town


On September 22 2013 16:26 Umasi wrote:
wait after reading his post (didn't see it when I posted) he's even more probably town


Referring to post
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=423071&currentpage=54#1073

Im more concerned about the first post. Why feel the need to give a free town read on someone that wasn't being discussed at the time.


Because I think he's town. Chairmans just pretty good lynchbait
he certainly was last game, and his play so far has evoked an identical feel.

on another note, find it annoying how you're like 'umasi hasn't talked enough about the important things in the thread' and then ask me about two one liners.
kinda wacky, but I have a town read on you.

idk about FT, slightly scummy for me, because of how contrived his pressure on DP felt for a silly reason
On September 22 2013 23:54 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
I think despite Umasi's allegations to the contrary, he's been contributing nothing of value. After LoneMeow leaves he decides that since he can't get anymore fuel, he'll unvote. And then really all he talks about is people who aren't scummy looking.

I'm switching from Stutters to him because at least with Umasi, if he does end up flipping red then his filter becomes more useful than Stutters who just pushed kush all day. Since apparently pressuring him isn't working and he's lurking harder than ever. We could vig stutters though.

I don't like yamato's big post either. He calls DP mafia, rayn scummy, and then quotes Ray's fluffpost and says HE'S THE SCUM. And he's really got nothing else to show, especially afterwards he doesn't rationalize anything. I'm leaning red on him. Umasi seems more red to me but yamato has more to show for further analysis if he flips red.

But I'll keep my vote on Umasi for now.

##Unvote
##Vote: Umasi


Otherwise, out of the filter dives I want to say something about WoS but I can't quite put my finger on it. Perhaps I'll say something about him and also Koshi when I get back.

thank god your thoughts on me basically are 'if he's red, man we have some things to go on' and 'he hasn't talked about important things!'
Lynching for information is something I'm a firm disbeliever of, I think it's frequently a scum tool
fwiw, I told you guys I'd respond to questions you had for me (and the only one I've seen is mocsta's)
mocsta kinda grouped us together as non-contributing-flying-under-the-radar dudes iirc, so you suddenly voting me with THAT shit reasoning is why I'm voting you, because it feels you're like 'quick target the other dude who's in a similar position to me'


also there's a vote thread, use it

##vote sentinel

We see an OMGUS vote on Sentinel. Not really alignment indicative because town are guilty of this just like mafia are.

Then he gets pressured by rayn about his vote and slowly backs off, explaining that his vote was simply the best of the options available to him.
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On September 23 2013 04:10 Umasi wrote:
annoying thing is I don't feel that strongly about the sentinel lynch, just stronger than other lynches that have been tossed around.
kinda want to see what people think though

Note how the confidence in his reads has drastically diminished over the course of these two posts.

Then, near lynch, we have these kinds of posts.
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On September 23 2013 10:57 Umasi wrote:
sentinel vote for justice!
do it do it do it

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On September 23 2013 10:59 Umasi wrote:
no I mean people should vote sentinel for justice :|

He doesn't take a stance on the two candidates that are most likely to be lynched, as if he knows both are town and doesn't want to risk changing his vote and being called scum for it. He also is now suddenly way more confident that Sentinel is scum, despite being dissuaded by rayn at one point in the thread.

:/ I don't like Umasi at all.


quickly responding, almost finished the write-up but am addressing this now
why is my confidence in my reads diminishing scummy, and why would I push sentinel near the deadline if I knew you two were town? That would imply Sentinel is ALSO town, so what would the purpose of me doing that be?
And if both were town, why would I want to change my vote to go onto one of them, if sentinel (the third frontrunner iirc) was who I was currently on? This is operating the assumption that all three of the lynch candidates are town, btw.
Why is me not taking a stance on Chair or you at that time scummy?

~and even so, I was pretty clear with my stance on Chair, I say in pretty explicit terms I thought he was town. Mocsta asked me about it, in that post you quoted. But it's not like I could come up with a convincing defense for him, because he constantly signed his own death warrant with the way he was posting. And if I can't actually convince myself that he's town using logic, I probably shouldn't try defending him at all.

What else makes me scum, or is it solely not being on either of the two wagons at the time of lynch?

/semi afk again
"Sir, we finally have enough corpses to serve as a ramp for your horse." "THEN LET THE REAPING BEGIN!!"
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September 24 2013 22:46 GMT
#3096
On September 24 2013 12:25 Risen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 24 2013 12:22 yamato77 wrote:
I'm confirmed town, so what I say actually goes today.

We lynch Sentinel.


No you aren't. Unless a doctor claims the save you could easily just be saying you got protected and you're scum. Doctor don't claim, though... that would be stupid.

On September 24 2013 15:30 VisceraEyes wrote:
Or what about a Sentinel lynch? The "confirmed town" yamato is calling for a Sentinel lynch. Any thoughts on that dude?

Like...The Cephiro thing is so boring to me. Your post about him was nothing but a huge summary of his play, which even contains consideration for possible townie-mindests. You never draw a conclusion that he's scum, simply state that you're not adverse to lynching him...but by denying these other wagons you're saying you ARE adverse to lynching those players. Why?

On September 24 2013 18:58 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
Since when has yamato been confirmed town?

Also, what do you guys think of Cheesecake lately? He's been under the radar for a while, only showed up once for night 1 to sheep yamato.

On September 25 2013 05:58 deconduo wrote:
Wait unless I'm missing something here, how is yamato confirmed? From what I understand, and coag hasn't been that forthcoming with information, coag claimed a vig shot on yamato, and yamato claimed he was protected. Why does that make yamato town? All it means is that coag is semi-confirmed, and a doc saved yamato.

Why would a scum lie about being protected, it makes sense for yamato to claim the protection regardless of his alignment.

chronologically, those are the four posts that questioned yamatos confirmed-townness (I think that's all)

On September 25 2013 07:12 FirmTofu wrote:
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On September 25 2013 07:02 Umasi wrote:
On September 25 2013 06:23 FirmTofu wrote:
I was just reading Umasi's filter and I'm having a bit of trouble following his thought process.
On September 23 2013 03:02 Umasi wrote:
On September 22 2013 17:19 Mocsta wrote:
On September 22 2013 16:39 Umasi wrote:
feel free to ask questions then


OK. I dont follow the progression here.


On September 22 2013 16:25 Umasi wrote:
I think ray is probably town


On September 22 2013 16:26 Umasi wrote:
wait after reading his post (didn't see it when I posted) he's even more probably town


Referring to post
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=423071&currentpage=54#1073

Im more concerned about the first post. Why feel the need to give a free town read on someone that wasn't being discussed at the time.


Because I think he's town. Chairmans just pretty good lynchbait
he certainly was last game, and his play so far has evoked an identical feel.

on another note, find it annoying how you're like 'umasi hasn't talked enough about the important things in the thread' and then ask me about two one liners.
kinda wacky, but I have a town read on you.

idk about FT, slightly scummy for me, because of how contrived his pressure on DP felt for a silly reason
On September 22 2013 23:54 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
I think despite Umasi's allegations to the contrary, he's been contributing nothing of value. After LoneMeow leaves he decides that since he can't get anymore fuel, he'll unvote. And then really all he talks about is people who aren't scummy looking.

I'm switching from Stutters to him because at least with Umasi, if he does end up flipping red then his filter becomes more useful than Stutters who just pushed kush all day. Since apparently pressuring him isn't working and he's lurking harder than ever. We could vig stutters though.

I don't like yamato's big post either. He calls DP mafia, rayn scummy, and then quotes Ray's fluffpost and says HE'S THE SCUM. And he's really got nothing else to show, especially afterwards he doesn't rationalize anything. I'm leaning red on him. Umasi seems more red to me but yamato has more to show for further analysis if he flips red.

But I'll keep my vote on Umasi for now.

##Unvote
##Vote: Umasi


Otherwise, out of the filter dives I want to say something about WoS but I can't quite put my finger on it. Perhaps I'll say something about him and also Koshi when I get back.

thank god your thoughts on me basically are 'if he's red, man we have some things to go on' and 'he hasn't talked about important things!'
Lynching for information is something I'm a firm disbeliever of, I think it's frequently a scum tool
fwiw, I told you guys I'd respond to questions you had for me (and the only one I've seen is mocsta's)
mocsta kinda grouped us together as non-contributing-flying-under-the-radar dudes iirc, so you suddenly voting me with THAT shit reasoning is why I'm voting you, because it feels you're like 'quick target the other dude who's in a similar position to me'


also there's a vote thread, use it

##vote sentinel

We see an OMGUS vote on Sentinel. Not really alignment indicative because town are guilty of this just like mafia are.

Then he gets pressured by rayn about his vote and slowly backs off, explaining that his vote was simply the best of the options available to him.
On September 23 2013 04:10 Umasi wrote:
annoying thing is I don't feel that strongly about the sentinel lynch, just stronger than other lynches that have been tossed around.
kinda want to see what people think though

Note how the confidence in his reads has drastically diminished over the course of these two posts.

Then, near lynch, we have these kinds of posts.
On September 23 2013 10:57 Umasi wrote:
sentinel vote for justice!
do it do it do it

On September 23 2013 10:59 Umasi wrote:
no I mean people should vote sentinel for justice :|

He doesn't take a stance on the two candidates that are most likely to be lynched, as if he knows both are town and doesn't want to risk changing his vote and being called scum for it. He also is now suddenly way more confident that Sentinel is scum, despite being dissuaded by rayn at one point in the thread.

:/ I don't like Umasi at all.


quickly responding, almost finished the write-up but am addressing this now
why is my confidence in my reads diminishing scummy, and why would I push sentinel near the deadline if I knew you two were town? That would imply Sentinel is ALSO town, so what would the purpose of me doing that be?
And if both were town, why would I want to change my vote to go onto one of them, if sentinel (the third frontrunner iirc) was who I was currently on? This is operating the assumption that all three of the lynch candidates are town, btw.
Why is me not taking a stance on Chair or you at that time scummy?

~and even so, I was pretty clear with my stance on Chair, I say in pretty explicit terms I thought he was town. Mocsta asked me about it, in that post you quoted. But it's not like I could come up with a convincing defense for him, because he constantly signed his own death warrant with the way he was posting. And if I can't actually convince myself that he's town using logic, I probably shouldn't try defending him at all.

What else makes me scum, or is it solely not being on either of the two wagons at the time of lynch?

/semi afk again

The issue is not that you backed down on Sentinel. It's that you were suddenly back on Sentinel afterwards even though you had previously backed off. What caused this unnatural shift? I'm also not operating on any assumptions. I know both lynch candidates were town(Me and Ray). I don't know Sentinel's alignment, so that is the only variable here.

The purpose of you voting sentinel is so that you aren't subject to being scrutinized for your stance on the lynch. Sentinel's alignment doesn't really matter here. You know Sentinel isn't going to get lynched so you don't have to worry about the repercussions of his flip. You could be bussing your teammate or just putting your vote on town. Doesn't make much of a difference


why would I switch onto firmtofu, if my read on chairman was not something I logically could back up and my strongest scumread was Sentinel?
"Sir, we finally have enough corpses to serve as a ramp for your horse." "THEN LET THE REAPING BEGIN!!"
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September 24 2013 22:58 GMT
#3102
On September 25 2013 07:54 FirmTofu wrote:
Snipping your quote.
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On September 25 2013 07:46 Umasi wrote:
The issue is not that you backed down on Sentinel. It's that you were suddenly back on Sentinel afterwards even though you had previously backed off. What caused this unnatural shift? I'm also not operating on any assumptions. I know both lynch candidates were town(Me and Ray). I don't know Sentinel's alignment, so that is the only variable here.

The purpose of you voting sentinel is so that you aren't subject to being scrutinized for your stance on the lynch. Sentinel's alignment doesn't really matter here. You know Sentinel isn't going to get lynched so you don't have to worry about the repercussions of his flip. You could be bussing your teammate or just putting your vote on town. Doesn't make much of a difference


why would I switch onto firmtofu, if my read on chairman was not something I logically could back up and my strongest scumread was Sentinel?

I'm not saying you should've switched onto me. I'm saying if you were backing off of Sentinel, why didn't you start looking for other targets? You sounded pretty convinced by Rayn that Sentinel didn't have a strong chance of flipping scum. Shouldn't you have started looking for other targets?

Why didn't you talk more about Ray and why he isn't a good lynch? Why didn't you comment at all on the wagon on me. There are so many things I would've expected a townie to do in your position that you did not do.[/QUOTE]

At what point did I make seem like Rayn convinced me Sentinel was town? I don't even think that he was defending Sentinel, just asking me to clarify what I was saying.

i have to go to class, will be back in a few hours.
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Umasi
Profile Joined October 2012
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September 24 2013 23:00 GMT
#3103
ebwop: because of formatting
On September 25 2013 07:55 FirmTofu wrote:
EBWOP: Ignore the formatting of my last post. I derped.
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2013 07:54 FirmTofu wrote:
Snipping your quote.
On September 25 2013 07:46 Umasi wrote:
why would I switch onto firmtofu, if my read on chairman was not something I logically could back up and my strongest scumread was Sentinel?

I'm not saying you should've switched onto me. I'm saying if you were backing off of Sentinel, why didn't you start looking for other targets? You sounded pretty convinced by Rayn that Sentinel didn't have a strong chance of flipping scum. Shouldn't you have started looking for other targets?

Why didn't you talk more about Ray and why he isn't a good lynch? Why didn't you comment at all on the wagon on me. There are so many things I would've expected a townie to do in your position that you did not do.


At what point did I make seem like Rayn convinced me Sentinel was town? I don't even think that he was defending Sentinel, just asking me to clarify what I was saying.

I have to go to class, will be back in a few hours.
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Umasi
Profile Joined October 2012
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September 24 2013 23:02 GMT
#3105
oh wait before I go, asked you this question a bit ago
what else in my filter is scummy? Or is it just me not defending an illogical townread or attacking someone other than my largest scum read?
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September 25 2013 03:07 GMT
#3189
On September 25 2013 11:20 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2013 06:12 marvellosity wrote:
Hey Firm.

Here's a few names

Umasi
Zaragron (i know you've talked about him before today)
justanothertownie
kush

Who's scummiest out of this lot and why? Do you think there are mafia in this list, if so how many?


This is what I got through skimming since I'm catching up and posting on short notice:

JAT fluffs like a mofo, Zaragon seems to be shoving all his fluff and I guess consolidating it? Both are generally blending in well and not taking the thread anywhere.

FT made a pretty bad case on Zaragon so maybe that's why I'm having trouble seeing the red and green features. But I don't like either one. JAT is consistently doing nothing while Zaragon has disappeared. Maybe slightly redder JAT.

Umasi's getting better. He's at least trying to contribute to the thread in a good way now and actively discussing.

Kush... I never have any idea wtf kush is doing. With mattchew I've seen him make sense before, kush has pretty much been this way in every game I remember. Including smurf. He's stopped making the modicum of sense he was at the beginning of D1 (the thread police stage), so I have nothing.

I'd say out of these four I would go after JAT first.

I'm going to go look at Mattchew, I haven't looked at him since I brought up his weird pseudo-doc claim thingy


I appreciate the sentiment that I'm getting better, but I've far from been discussing things more actively than I was, nothing has really changed. I was just addressing FTs thoughts on me. He seems to be focused on me being scum, and I don't really care to respond to him anymore, but he's present enough (as are you) to make me ~relatively happier? Although both his scumread of me and your (kind of?) townread of me seem pretty unexplained or poorly reasoned.
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Umasi
Profile Joined October 2012
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September 25 2013 03:22 GMT
#3192
##vote mattchew
Lots of my townreads are voting for him, and I agree with many of the points brought up against him. he's surpassed firmtofu and sentinel.
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Umasi
Profile Joined October 2012
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September 25 2013 03:23 GMT
#3194
On September 25 2013 12:20 yamato77 wrote:
Can we please kill Sentinel?


You prefer a sentinel lynch over mattchew? why?
On September 25 2013 11:20 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2013 06:12 marvellosity wrote:
Hey Firm.

Here's a few names

Umasi
Zaragron (i know you've talked about him before today)
justanothertownie
kush

Who's scummiest out of this lot and why? Do you think there are mafia in this list, if so how many?


This is what I got through skimming since I'm catching up and posting on short notice:

JAT fluffs like a mofo, Zaragon seems to be shoving all his fluff and I guess consolidating it? Both are generally blending in well and not taking the thread anywhere.

FT made a pretty bad case on Zaragon so maybe that's why I'm having trouble seeing the red and green features. But I don't like either one. JAT is consistently doing nothing while Zaragon has disappeared. Maybe slightly redder JAT.

Umasi's getting better. He's at least trying to contribute to the thread in a good way now and actively discussing.

Kush... I never have any idea wtf kush is doing. With mattchew I've seen him make sense before, kush has pretty much been this way in every game I remember. Including smurf. He's stopped making the modicum of sense he was at the beginning of D1 (the thread police stage), so I have nothing.

I'd say out of these four I would go after JAT first.

I'm going to go look at Mattchew, I haven't looked at him since I brought up his weird pseudo-doc claim thingy

why would he retract his scumread a little bit just when firmtofu starts calling me scum?
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Umasi
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September 25 2013 05:55 GMT
#3244
On September 25 2013 14:47 Pandain wrote:
Also VE why are you lurking? What are you hoping to find?

VE died.
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Umasi
Profile Joined October 2012
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September 25 2013 05:55 GMT
#3245
oh wait thought you meant vayne authority
I'm dumb
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Umasi
Profile Joined October 2012
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September 25 2013 06:20 GMT
#3254
On September 25 2013 15:08 Mocsta wrote:
Umasi

Question.
Day1 lynch. U backed off sentinel and then came back on him waving a justice flag.

Why did u do this? U admitted prior the read wasn't a strong one, so I don't get the motive to blow that trumpet?

I know u have been asked a similar quesyion but I wasn't satisfied with the response.


because he was my #1 scumread at the time, and wanted him lynched.
Just because I wasn't too confident doesn't mean he wasn't my #1 scumread.

the justice flag was a joke though :o
"Sir, we finally have enough corpses to serve as a ramp for your horse." "THEN LET THE REAPING BEGIN!!"
Umasi
Profile Joined October 2012
United States1399 Posts
September 26 2013 00:54 GMT
#3859
On September 26 2013 09:53 Pandain wrote:
I'm willing to do it if we guarantee enough votes

Not sold on Zara though I'm having a town read on him

"Sir, we finally have enough corpses to serve as a ramp for your horse." "THEN LET THE REAPING BEGIN!!"
Umasi
Profile Joined October 2012
United States1399 Posts
September 26 2013 01:08 GMT
#3878
I'm down for a sentinel lynch over LM or ceph
##unvote
##vote sentinel
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Umasi
Profile Joined October 2012
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September 26 2013 01:50 GMT
#3959
On September 26 2013 10:50 LoneMeow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 26 2013 10:45 iamperfection wrote:
On September 26 2013 10:44 LoneMeow wrote:
I obviously prefer lynching Cephiro over being lynched myself.

Vote: Cephiro

do you think he is scum?


Uncertain. Not caught up. All I know is, I am the doctor that saved yamato.

wut
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Umasi
Profile Joined October 2012
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September 26 2013 01:57 GMT
#3990
##UNVOTE
##VOTE LONEMEOW
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Umasi
Profile Joined October 2012
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September 26 2013 01:58 GMT
#3992
On September 26 2013 10:58 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
LOL IN B4 BOTH DOCS DOCCED YAM LOL

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Umasi
Profile Joined October 2012
United States1399 Posts
September 26 2013 02:15 GMT
#4023
:|
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Umasi
Profile Joined October 2012
United States1399 Posts
September 26 2013 08:45 GMT
#4118
On September 26 2013 17:43 marvellosity wrote:
oh my god

he even CLAIMED

what the fuck is wrong with you people?


mocsta happened :o
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Umasi
Profile Joined October 2012
United States1399 Posts
September 26 2013 08:52 GMT
#4120
On September 26 2013 17:50 marvellosity wrote:
if we have a vigi, shoot the fuck out of Mocsta.

that play just won't stand.


I want to policy lynch him for it, if he isn't vigged is that the correct thing to do?
"Sir, we finally have enough corpses to serve as a ramp for your horse." "THEN LET THE REAPING BEGIN!!"
Umasi
Profile Joined October 2012
United States1399 Posts
September 26 2013 09:22 GMT
#4129
On September 26 2013 18:21 Risen wrote:
I'm confused, I agree Mocsta is horrible and scum, but why are you now of said opinion marv?

he fake claimed doctor to push through a lynch, and then the dude flipped doctor.
pretty obvious
"Sir, we finally have enough corpses to serve as a ramp for your horse." "THEN LET THE REAPING BEGIN!!"
Umasi
Profile Joined October 2012
United States1399 Posts
September 26 2013 09:35 GMT
#4141
On September 26 2013 18:26 marvellosity wrote:
Umasi could well be mafia too, he was a total non-entity yesterday.

Why can't every townie just play straightforwardly? Say what you think? Vote who you think is mafia? Not lie? Not fakeclaim? Just play straight up??

On September 25 2013 11:20 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2013 06:12 marvellosity wrote:
Hey Firm.

Here's a few names

Umasi
Zaragron (i know you've talked about him before today)
justanothertownie
kush

Who's scummiest out of this lot and why? Do you think there are mafia in this list, if so how many?


This is what I got through skimming since I'm catching up and posting on short notice:

JAT fluffs like a mofo, Zaragon seems to be shoving all his fluff and I guess consolidating it? Both are generally blending in well and not taking the thread anywhere.

FT made a pretty bad case on Zaragon so maybe that's why I'm having trouble seeing the red and green features. But I don't like either one. JAT is consistently doing nothing while Zaragon has disappeared. Maybe slightly redder JAT.

Umasi's getting better. He's at least trying to contribute to the thread in a good way now and actively discussing.

Kush... I never have any idea wtf kush is doing. With mattchew I've seen him make sense before, kush has pretty much been this way in every game I remember. Including smurf. He's stopped making the modicum of sense he was at the beginning of D1 (the thread police stage), so I have nothing.

I'd say out of these four I would go after JAT first.

I'm going to go look at Mattchew, I haven't looked at him since I brought up his weird pseudo-doc claim thingy

read the underlined, does that make any sense for sentinel to say given what you just said marv?
"Sir, we finally have enough corpses to serve as a ramp for your horse." "THEN LET THE REAPING BEGIN!!"
Umasi
Profile Joined October 2012
United States1399 Posts
September 26 2013 09:40 GMT
#4147
maybe it wasn't clear
sentinel made that post when I hadn't done jack shit at all ANYWAY.
(I'm well aware that I've done jack shit)
it's not me defending myself at all, it's asking, does it make sense for sentinel to think my actions were townie when they weren't actually my actions at all?
"Sir, we finally have enough corpses to serve as a ramp for your horse." "THEN LET THE REAPING BEGIN!!"
Umasi
Profile Joined October 2012
United States1399 Posts
September 26 2013 09:45 GMT
#4151
Because I'm a lazy piece of shit who's scared of getting mislynched, too lazy to put in the time, because when he wanted to /out of the game after golden sun the game had already begun and I'm not going to just take up a replacement when some slots aren't taken up.

you can take that reason or you can't, I really don't care.
Now what do you make of sentinels fucking post, marv.
"Sir, we finally have enough corpses to serve as a ramp for your horse." "THEN LET THE REAPING BEGIN!!"
Umasi
Profile Joined October 2012
United States1399 Posts
September 26 2013 09:53 GMT
#4157
On September 26 2013 18:46 marvellosity wrote:
don't care anymore.

I still value your input, however.
"Sir, we finally have enough corpses to serve as a ramp for your horse." "THEN LET THE REAPING BEGIN!!"
Umasi
Profile Joined October 2012
United States1399 Posts
September 26 2013 10:17 GMT
#4162
if anyone wants to explain if what sentinel did is scummy or not, go for it, since marv's not gonna bother, and I'm just confused.
night
"Sir, we finally have enough corpses to serve as a ramp for your horse." "THEN LET THE REAPING BEGIN!!"
Umasi
Profile Joined October 2012
United States1399 Posts
September 27 2013 02:08 GMT
#4580
##vote: cephiro
"Sir, we finally have enough corpses to serve as a ramp for your horse." "THEN LET THE REAPING BEGIN!!"
Umasi
Profile Joined October 2012
United States1399 Posts
September 27 2013 02:20 GMT
#4591
On September 27 2013 11:15 Mocsta wrote:
Umasi.

Who else than cephiro is scum?

You and Sentinel.
Rather, idk if you're scum, but you're the only person I would like to swap to atm, because I'm ticked with your doc claim, but that's not something town or scum would do, just ridiculous.
Sentinel is my other scumread.
But coag stated it pretty well, lynch marvs scumreads.
"Sir, we finally have enough corpses to serve as a ramp for your horse." "THEN LET THE REAPING BEGIN!!"
Umasi
Profile Joined October 2012
United States1399 Posts
September 27 2013 04:15 GMT
#4643
I want to follow VE because that phrase is super badass
BUT LAST TIME I GOT PUMPED FOR NO REASON THE DUDE WAS SCUUUUUUUUUUM
GLARES AT OLDPARTNER (BLAZINGHAND)

+ Show Spoiler +
this is a joke.


"Sir, we finally have enough corpses to serve as a ramp for your horse." "THEN LET THE REAPING BEGIN!!"
Umasi
Profile Joined October 2012
United States1399 Posts
September 27 2013 04:19 GMT
#4649
On September 27 2013 13:17 Zaragon wrote:
Pretty sure Mocsta is scum and Cephiro is the Roleblocker.

why is cephiro the roleblocker?
like
wat?
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Umasi
Profile Joined October 2012
United States1399 Posts
September 29 2013 03:08 GMT
#4852
awesome, believe in marv and he shall deliver.
I think we should lynch mocsta tomorrow
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Umasi
Profile Joined October 2012
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September 29 2013 03:47 GMT
#4875
On September 29 2013 12:28 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2013 12:08 Umasi wrote:
awesome, believe in marv and he shall deliver.
I think we should lynch mocsta tomorrow

what has marv got to do with lynching me? He was never pushing me as a primary lynch.

This is pretty fucking scummy to do.

Explain NAIO!

believe in marv and he shall deliver referring to cephiro.
lynch you 100% because of policy imo.
(policy referring to your retarded doctor fakeclaim)
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United States1399 Posts
September 29 2013 05:22 GMT
#4879
On September 29 2013 12:51 iamperfection wrote:
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On September 29 2013 12:47 Umasi wrote:
On September 29 2013 12:28 Mocsta wrote:
On September 29 2013 12:08 Umasi wrote:
awesome, believe in marv and he shall deliver.
I think we should lynch mocsta tomorrow

what has marv got to do with lynching me? He was never pushing me as a primary lynch.

This is pretty fucking scummy to do.

Explain NAIO!

believe in marv and he shall deliver referring to cephiro.
lynch you 100% because of policy imo.
(policy referring to your retarded doctor fakeclaim)

why do you want a policy lynch when we need to reduce mafia kp


Because if mocsta is town, what he did is basically inexcusable, and needs to be punished.
If he's mafia, A: we caught mafia and B: the ridiculous behavior is punished.

my question for you, general masses, is IS THERE A COMPELLING REASON TO NOT VOTE FOR MOCSTA?

'there are some reasons he is townie, and he isn't 100% scum...' is an incorrect answer, btw.
"Sir, we finally have enough corpses to serve as a ramp for your horse." "THEN LET THE REAPING BEGIN!!"
Umasi
Profile Joined October 2012
United States1399 Posts
September 29 2013 06:20 GMT
#4885
'outrage'
This is a principled stand.
"Sir, we finally have enough corpses to serve as a ramp for your horse." "THEN LET THE REAPING BEGIN!!"
Umasi
Profile Joined October 2012
United States1399 Posts
September 29 2013 06:23 GMT
#4887
13:05-15:21 was the gap of time between
On September 29 2013 13:05 kitaman27 wrote:
I'd like to point out that we have a 100% mafia lynch rate since I've join the game.

and
On September 29 2013 15:21 ObviousOne wrote:
Hi Kita


???
"Sir, we finally have enough corpses to serve as a ramp for your horse." "THEN LET THE REAPING BEGIN!!"
Umasi
Profile Joined October 2012
United States1399 Posts
September 29 2013 06:31 GMT
#4890
why did you say hi kita :|
"Sir, we finally have enough corpses to serve as a ramp for your horse." "THEN LET THE REAPING BEGIN!!"
Umasi
Profile Joined October 2012
United States1399 Posts
September 29 2013 06:37 GMT
#4894
Alright. I'll spell it out, I guess.
There was a two hour and twenty minute gap between kitas last appearance in thread, and OOs mention of him.
is that not in the least strange?
"Sir, we finally have enough corpses to serve as a ramp for your horse." "THEN LET THE REAPING BEGIN!!"
Umasi
Profile Joined October 2012
United States1399 Posts
September 29 2013 06:50 GMT
#4898
k, guess I should stop talking about things I think are noteworthy/out of place/scummy, since the result was overwhelmingly 'wow you're an idiot'
truly lurking is the best way for me to play.
If anyone wants to know why I'm voting for mocsta, or why they should vote mocsta, feel free to ask, If anyone thinks it's a bad idea, you're wrong.
aside from that, I'm lurking aside from voting him once the day starts.
"Sir, we finally have enough corpses to serve as a ramp for your horse." "THEN LET THE REAPING BEGIN!!"
Umasi
Profile Joined October 2012
United States1399 Posts
September 30 2013 02:26 GMT
#4992
ggnore
gogogoggooooooooooooooootooooown
"Sir, we finally have enough corpses to serve as a ramp for your horse." "THEN LET THE REAPING BEGIN!!"
Umasi
Profile Joined October 2012
United States1399 Posts
October 05 2013 02:41 GMT
#6325
On October 05 2013 11:39 WaveofShadow wrote:
Let's see what else can I yell at town about?
Oh I know.

DON'T FUCKING FAKECLAIM AS TOWN
EVER


bigplayz
also, DAMMIT I HAD SENTINEL AND THEN PULLED OFF I FUCKING HATE MYSELF
"Sir, we finally have enough corpses to serve as a ramp for your horse." "THEN LET THE REAPING BEGIN!!"
Umasi
Profile Joined October 2012
United States1399 Posts
October 05 2013 03:09 GMT
#6331
On October 05 2013 11:58 WaveofShadow wrote:
Guess everyone is so demoralized over this game there won't even BE all the drama that we were expecting.

too busy watching worlds
"Sir, we finally have enough corpses to serve as a ramp for your horse." "THEN LET THE REAPING BEGIN!!"
Umasi
Profile Joined October 2012
United States1399 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-05 06:04:44
October 05 2013 05:57 GMT
#6368
On October 05 2013 14:31 gonzaw wrote:
So, about that Mocsta fakeclaim...

T>T
which?
"Sir, we finally have enough corpses to serve as a ramp for your horse." "THEN LET THE REAPING BEGIN!!"
Umasi
Profile Joined October 2012
United States1399 Posts
October 05 2013 20:25 GMT
#6407
On October 06 2013 05:19 LoneMeow wrote:
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On October 06 2013 05:18 justanothertownie wrote:
I am fairly certain WOS wasn't talking about you Lone.


I am fairly certain I played against my wincon which I believe is verboten.

you didn't
imo, anyway.
like, mocsta didn't, and if anyone DID, it's certainly mocsta :|
"Sir, we finally have enough corpses to serve as a ramp for your horse." "THEN LET THE REAPING BEGIN!!"
Umasi
Profile Joined October 2012
United States1399 Posts
October 05 2013 20:26 GMT
#6408
Actually scratch that.
If anyone did, it's me, because I blatantly stopped caring if mocsta was town or not and wanted him policied :3
"Sir, we finally have enough corpses to serve as a ramp for your horse." "THEN LET THE REAPING BEGIN!!"
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