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justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16322 Posts
September 23 2013 17:43 GMT
#2278
So, am I null to you or do you think I am scum rayn?
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16322 Posts
September 23 2013 17:47 GMT
#2283
On September 24 2013 02:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:
To elaborate on my read on JAT, my read on him is "angry".
I dunno wtf that means, but that's my read on him atm..

Angry? Are you angry at me? Because I am for sure not angry^^
If you want my opinion on something feel free to ask. Like I said I wont have much time until tomorrow evening so I wont filter dive anyone on my own but if there is something specific you want to know just ask.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16322 Posts
September 23 2013 17:52 GMT
#2285
Sounds fair.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16322 Posts
September 23 2013 18:08 GMT
#2299
On September 24 2013 03:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:
To be more precise, these posts:
Show nested quote +
On September 22 2013 09:50 justanothertownie wrote:
On September 22 2013 09:45 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 22 2013 09:40 justanothertownie wrote:
On September 22 2013 09:40 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 22 2013 09:37 justanothertownie wrote:
On September 22 2013 09:34 raynpelikoneet wrote:
So JAT if someone posts something that's mostly fluff your thoughts on it are "big deal?", why?

Because in my experience town does it all the time, too. It's not that it doesn't matter but if you want to convince me the dude is scum you should give me more reasons.

Yeah you are right. It does not mean he is scum. But it's a post that serves no purpose. It says nothing. You should be by default curious of his intentions for making the post. It helps you getting a better read on him and it helps out people getting a better read on you. Townies should care about finding scum, bad posts should be called out.

Yes. Now tell me when I said something different?

Your initial answers to OO read me as you were not interested in knowing more about Zaragon.

Well, your read is wrong.

I dunno if it has to do with me and my playstyle, or what it is, but this seems kinda... idk.. odd. In comparsion to how you answer DP after that; To me your answers are just short one liners with a mindset that to me reads as "wtf are you trying to do", and to DP you give more complete answers with explanation on your thought process.

The thing is your read was just a feeling/very subjective. There is nothing else to say for me about it besides that it's wrong because there is nothing I can explain about it.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16322 Posts
September 23 2013 18:38 GMT
#2304
On September 24 2013 03:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Btw JAT, if you are still here. Who are your scumreads?

I still don't have very strong reads. There are a few people I am relatively confident are town but noone I am sure is scum.
People that look bad and come to mind are FT (no improvement and the lynch doesn't make him look better), Risen (I have to admit I don't know this guy at all so maybe he is just a player who doesn't give a fuck at all? - really anti town though), kush (as you said he can do better we will see Day2). I am also slightly suspicious of Mocsta because of his voting behaviour yesterday and because he obviously has a quite strong townread on me (I mean there is nothing wrong with it but the last player who read me town strongly while nobody else did was scum). I wouldn't lynch him though.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16322 Posts
September 23 2013 18:47 GMT
#2306
For Mocsta basically this:
On September 23 2013 23:24 marvellosity wrote:
I'll tell you the oddest thing about Mocsta from my perspective.

He came into the thread with his Chairman case, and was really convinced by it, and upheld it repeatedly.

Then Wave expressed some kinda doubts and Mocsta is like "oh yeah, hmm" and just unvotes like that. Seems like he was pushed off it really easily given how absolutely convinced he sounded about it.

FT does not look better after the lynch because he was the second wagon besides a townie. Does not mean he has to be scum but it is absolutely possible. Some people even tried so save him (like geript).
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16322 Posts
September 23 2013 18:51 GMT
#2308
If I remember this correctly he switched when ray was clearly in the lead so maybe he wanted to distance himself from the still happening lynch of a townie?
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16322 Posts
September 23 2013 18:59 GMT
#2310
On September 24 2013 03:55 WaveofShadow wrote:
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On September 24 2013 03:51 justanothertownie wrote:
If I remember this correctly he switched when ray was clearly in the lead so maybe he wanted to distance himself from the still happening lynch of a townie?

Are you looking for reasons to fit Mocsta's actions to your read of him?

Nope the things I said are the reasons for my suspicion (not a real scumread right now) of him.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16322 Posts
September 23 2013 19:00 GMT
#2311
Besides them there is nothing that really looks scummy to me about him.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16322 Posts
September 23 2013 19:28 GMT
#2316
On September 24 2013 04:22 raynpelikoneet wrote:
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On September 24 2013 03:51 justanothertownie wrote:
If I remember this correctly he switched when ray was clearly in the lead so maybe he wanted to distance himself from the still happening lynch of a townie?

No that's not right. Mocsta switched one minute before the dedaline, the votes were at that time CR (6), FT (3) -> Mocsta made them CR (5), FT (4). Both of CR & FT had yet to vote.

Hmm, that's closer than I thought. Hard to see the real motivations here because it was chaotic and nobody knew when the deadline really was. Seems like it would only make sense for scum Mocsta to change if FT was town (otherwise it would be really ballsy).
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16322 Posts
September 23 2013 22:40 GMT
#2456
On September 24 2013 07:39 Koshi wrote:
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On September 24 2013 07:32 marvellosity wrote:
On September 24 2013 07:31 Pandain wrote:
As I'm reading, I note that I heavily disagree with Marv saying that we should all role claim.


stop doing this. it's not even funny or interesting.

I giggled.

Me too!
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16322 Posts
September 23 2013 22:42 GMT
#2460
On September 24 2013 07:41 marvellosity wrote:
well, in that case you're all easily pleased, as he's made the same 'joke' about 5 times this thread already.

almost as many times as he's posted in fact.

:>

That's actually the funny thing about it^^ Ok, let's drop this...
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16322 Posts
September 24 2013 16:18 GMT
#2883
... I'm catching up right now. Open for questions as usal.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16322 Posts
September 24 2013 17:50 GMT
#2929
Risen, as far as I understand the set up there are no goons. We have 6 scummers and the possible roles are RB, GF and Framer. We also had only one player claiming roleblock (as far as I have seen). I think it is pretty reasonable to assume there are Framer/GF maybe even more than one per role.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16322 Posts
September 24 2013 19:25 GMT
#2943
Wow, how come there is nothing going on right now?

Kush I am eagerly awaiting your announced contribution.
Also I would like to know yamatos, geripts, sentinels, marvs, rayns and kushs current opinion on FT if you have the time (not only because they were on rays wagon but for various different reasons). I mean everyone elses comments are welcome too but the opinions of those people are especially interesting to me.

Apart from that - I'm getting tired of saying this but if you want me to contribute so you can read me ask me stuff... I am currently struggling to find useful things to say. I will be here for several hours reading the thread and occasionally a filter.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16322 Posts
September 24 2013 19:33 GMT
#2945
Give me a few minutes (eating right now). I will have a closer look at him. Definitely not in my townbook though.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16322 Posts
September 24 2013 20:31 GMT
#2952
On September 24 2013 18:58 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
Since when has yamato been confirmed town?

Also, what do you guys think of Cheesecake lately? He's been under the radar for a while, only showed up once for night 1 to sheep yamato.

So now you think yamato is confirmed town? What made you chance your mind?
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16322 Posts
September 24 2013 20:31 GMT
#2953
EBWOP: change*
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16322 Posts
September 24 2013 20:45 GMT
#2957
On September 25 2013 04:31 LoneMeow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2013 04:25 justanothertownie wrote:
Apart from that - I'm getting tired of saying this but if you want me to contribute so you can read me ask me stuff... I am currently struggling to find useful things to say. I will be here for several hours reading the thread and occasionally a filter.


Your thoughts on Sentinel?

To come back to this:
I reread his filter and I don't know what to think of him. The way his opinion of ray changed is really weird (as many people pointed out already). I don't think voting ray in itself is scummy but it is weird to change your read so drastically and vote him when you have other scum reads (stutters, umasi). I don't recall him having a townread on FT either.
Also his activity is not as high as I would expect of someone who spammed the pregame.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16322 Posts
September 24 2013 20:46 GMT
#2959
On September 25 2013 05:41 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2013 05:31 justanothertownie wrote:
On September 24 2013 18:58 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
Since when has yamato been confirmed town?

Also, what do you guys think of Cheesecake lately? He's been under the radar for a while, only showed up once for night 1 to sheep yamato.

So now you think yamato is confirmed town? What made you chance your mind?


No I don't. I'm questioning his last post:

Show nested quote +
On September 24 2013 12:22 yamato77 wrote:
I'm confirmed town, so what I say actually goes today.

We lynch Sentinel.


I don't think I understand (maybe it's me being dumb). Do you think yamato is town or not?
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