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@LoneMeow (and anyone else fresh out of newbies into the main games esp large ones)
Your glass appears to be half empty. Let me make it half full for you instead.
In obs you said
It's quite hard to not be intimidated with a player list like this one. The difference between newbie games and this was absolutely ridiculous.
Oh yeah I can definitely see people being intimidated.+ Show Spoiler +I also remember (as well as see): I was scum in my first big game >> ugh
The trick as town... and it is a good one.. is to try and remember that theoretically most of the people in the game are on your team and hopefully if the RNG gods are nice some of the people on your team are good players.
+ Show Spoiler + If some of the players on your team derp hard and try to break Halons Razor it may be hard to remember that. but try to remember that none the less.
most importantly
I was terribly afraid someone like you or DP would target me and get me mislynched - as VT I don't much care about being mislynched, but as doctor in a game with so much scum KP things were quite different.
If they are intimidating, from their skill, then someone like Marv or DP is also hopefully less likely to mistake you as scum and mislynch you. Trust that. Help them help you... post enough words and thoughts.
In very real sense you could perhaps have gone into the game confident they would recognise that you were town.
In very real sense as your fears might have been justified if you were scum, trying real hard not to have those fears was one of the hows for you to show you are town. (when you've played few more games you will have to do that and more to be seen as town, the goal posts do keep moving.)
All the anger and yelling and ad hominem attacks also discourage players from participating in the thread. I didn't feel especially welcome to try to help figure the game out which definitely didn't help with my activity level.
Cant argue with that.
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On October 06 2013 03:17 marvellosity wrote:
As an aside, I enjoyed playing with Umasi, jat, Zaragon - 3 newer players. I hope they stick around and play more.
I will stick around but I won't always have as much time as I had the last weeks. And I think I prefer smaller over large games...
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On October 06 2013 03:33 AxleGreaser wrote:most importantly Show nested quote + I was terribly afraid someone like you or DP would target me and get me mislynched - as VT I don't much care about being mislynched, but as doctor in a game with so much scum KP things were quite different. If they are intimidating, from their skill, then someone like Marv or DP is also hopefully less likely to mistake you as scum and mislynch you. Trust that. Help them help you... post enough words and thoughts. In very real sense you could perhaps have gone into the game confident they would recognise that you were town.
This is only true when I am posting in a town-like manner, which I wasn't as every post I made was called scummy. And it's hard to post thoughts when you have none. More or less everyone was null for me until N1.
As a side note to those wondering about my claim:
On September 26 2013 10:50 LoneMeow wrote:Show nested quote +On September 26 2013 10:45 iamperfection wrote:On September 26 2013 10:44 LoneMeow wrote:
I obviously prefer lynching Cephiro over being lynched myself.
Vote: Cephiro do you think he is scum? Uncertain. Not caught up. All I know is, I am the doctor that saved yamato.
I started replying the same minute iamperfection posted that. It quite literally took me that long to type that message (phone post, one handed). I woke up around 4:30 AM to check on the lynch, noticed I had 350+ unread posts. Thought it was very likely I'd be lynched after switching my vote to Cephiro without having scum read on him so I wanted to ensure yamato would be confirmed (and by extension Coag to some extent also) if I was lynched and I couldn't trust I could last minute post given how slowly I was typing.
Now for the million dollar question: Was Mocsta actually also a doctor with save on yamato? I kind of expected that double protect would only give one doctor the save result but I suppose I should have confirmed that from the hosts.
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On October 06 2013 01:08 WaveofShadow wrote:
There was a lot of unacceptable play in this game imo.
Not bad (which there was), unacceptable and bannable.
I agree, and I'm fine with whatever punishment is coming my way long as I can still cohost NMM XLIX.
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I am fairly certain WOS wasn't talking about you Lone.
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On October 06 2013 05:18 justanothertownie wrote:
I am fairly certain WOS wasn't talking about you Lone.
I am fairly certain I played against my wincon which I believe is verboten.
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On October 06 2013 05:19 LoneMeow wrote:Show nested quote +On October 06 2013 05:18 justanothertownie wrote:
I am fairly certain WOS wasn't talking about you Lone. I am fairly certain I played against my wincon which I believe is verboten.
you didn't
imo, anyway.
like, mocsta didn't, and if anyone DID, it's certainly mocsta :|
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Actually scratch that.
If anyone did, it's me, because I blatantly stopped caring if mocsta was town or not and wanted him policied :3
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On October 06 2013 05:26 Umasi wrote:
Actually scratch that.
If anyone did, it's me, because I blatantly stopped caring if mocsta was town or not and wanted him policied :3
that is the correct play, he should not have been town but he was for some reason.
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On October 06 2013 05:19 LoneMeow wrote:Show nested quote +On October 06 2013 05:18 justanothertownie wrote:
I am fairly certain WOS wasn't talking about you Lone. I am fairly certain I played against my wincon which I believe is verboten.
Being overwhelmed is not playing against your wincon.
And Axle said some very wise things to you.
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On October 06 2013 05:25 Umasi wrote:Show nested quote +On October 06 2013 05:19 LoneMeow wrote:On October 06 2013 05:18 justanothertownie wrote:
I am fairly certain WOS wasn't talking about you Lone. I am fairly certain I played against my wincon which I believe is verboten. you didn't imo, anyway. like, mocsta didn't, and if anyone DID, it's certainly mocsta :|
Pandain did.
I think there were a couple other examples too.
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On October 06 2013 06:40 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On October 06 2013 05:25 Umasi wrote:On October 06 2013 05:19 LoneMeow wrote:On October 06 2013 05:18 justanothertownie wrote:
I am fairly certain WOS wasn't talking about you Lone. I am fairly certain I played against my wincon which I believe is verboten. you didn't imo, anyway. like, mocsta didn't, and if anyone DID, it's certainly mocsta :| Pandain did. I think there were a couple other examples too.
Hell anyone who got modkilled on purpose technically is playing against wincon even if it's 'to get someone lynched' or whatever because getting yourself killed increases scum's chances of winning.
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On October 06 2013 05:26 Umasi wrote:
Actually scratch that.
If anyone did, it's me, because I blatantly stopped caring if mocsta was town or not and wanted him policied :3
Yeah no. That's not anti-wincon at all.
Policy lynches just don't happen on TL though, no matter how often they should, and now you know that.
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Pandain survived as scum to end game again!?
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On October 06 2013 03:17 marvellosity wrote:
As an aside, I enjoyed playing with Umasi, jat, Zaragon - 3 newer players. I hope they stick around and play more.
All 3 were easy town reads and tried to help in the game. Agreed.
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It seems everybody is taking this very cool. Like...no one is going to yell at people or something? Damn you guys are more restrained than I thought.
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Has nothing to do with it.
The anger has long since died away---game's been over so long people just don't give a shit anymore.
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If nobody gives a shit, then how are you going to make sure a game like this doesn't happen again?
People will now go "meh" and join the next game and do the exact same thing.
The very least we could get an analysis post from MZ or someone so....you know...people can learn from their mistakes and shit
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don't need some analysis post
listen to strong players, don't do moronic shit, don't modkill yourself like a twat
that's it.
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For someone that hasn't read this 300 page game, can someone give a 5 line tl;dr version?
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EPT
