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On September 21 2013 22:55 Koshi wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On September 21 2013 22:51 Mocsta wrote:Show nested quote +On September 21 2013 22:47 Koshi wrote:On September 21 2013 22:46 Mocsta wrote:On September 21 2013 22:42 Koshi wrote:
I want to lynch Mocst
Reason: People that make special posts always end up being scum.
Acrofoles: GoT
Persona: Crazometer
Aperture: Alakaslam (he was even more special than otherwise, with the evul bee posts)
Golden Sun: BH
Right... So lets get you useful. Is Geript scum? I have 0 clues. The guy had a superpowerful role in aperture and we all know how that ended. But I am very friendly towards geript because he is friendly towards me. yeah OK, more stuff that means nothing. That was a different game. You know; i have seen you replace in as town, and your game play was very different to what you are doing now. Day1 spaztic mode is over. So lets try again, one more time. - cos you didn't give a definitive answer on where you stand. Read on Geript.Then Read on WaveofShadow. :D I do not want to lynch geript. Reason: He is making cases + he is a friendly fellow.
Case(s) ??? i thought he made one case based on DPs second post of the game?
Why is making cases alignment indicative? Are you content with the cases? => Do you think DP is scum?
I could lynch WoS atm. He tried to fling shit at VE for not going to bed when he said he was going to bed. Unless he is VE his mother there is no reason to make that post. So why is flinging shit at VE for not goign to bed, alignment indicative?
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On September 21 2013 22:56 kushm4sta wrote:
Personally I do not tihnk VE is scum and that is becauseof the way he is capitalizing words is not scummy.
Kush; indulge me.
Why did you want me modkilled, along with pandain.
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On September 21 2013 23:07 kushm4sta wrote:
becuse you talked when you said you cant talk
Have you turned a new leaf or something?
Since when do you care as town?
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On September 21 2013 23:07 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On September 21 2013 23:01 Mocsta wrote:On September 21 2013 22:55 Koshi wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On September 21 2013 22:51 Mocsta wrote:Show nested quote +On September 21 2013 22:47 Koshi wrote:On September 21 2013 22:46 Mocsta wrote:On September 21 2013 22:42 Koshi wrote:
I want to lynch Mocst
Reason: People that make special posts always end up being scum.
Acrofoles: GoT
Persona: Crazometer
Aperture: Alakaslam (he was even more special than otherwise, with the evul bee posts)
Golden Sun: BH
Right... So lets get you useful. Is Geript scum? I have 0 clues. The guy had a superpowerful role in aperture and we all know how that ended. But I am very friendly towards geript because he is friendly towards me. yeah OK, more stuff that means nothing. That was a different game. You know; i have seen you replace in as town, and your game play was very different to what you are doing now. Day1 spaztic mode is over. So lets try again, one more time. - cos you didn't give a definitive answer on where you stand. Read on Geript.Then Read on WaveofShadow. :D I do not want to lynch geript. Reason: He is making cases + he is a friendly fellow. Case(s) ??? i thought he made one case based on DPs second post of the game? Why is making cases alignment indicative? Are you content with the cases? => Do you think DP is scum? I could lynch WoS atm. He tried to fling shit at VE for not going to bed when he said he was going to bed. Unless he is VE his mother there is no reason to make that post. So why is flinging shit at VE for not goign to bed, alignment indicative? Yes, I do not know if geript scum. So the only reason to lynch him would be to look at if he is useful or not. He makes cases so I do not want to lynch him. Same story for WoS but he turns to the go!go! lynch part. Dnu what is so hard to understand.
Why is making cases alignment indicative?
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On September 21 2013 23:11 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On September 21 2013 23:08 Mocsta wrote:On September 21 2013 23:07 Koshi wrote:On September 21 2013 23:01 Mocsta wrote:On September 21 2013 22:55 Koshi wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On September 21 2013 22:51 Mocsta wrote:Show nested quote +On September 21 2013 22:47 Koshi wrote:On September 21 2013 22:46 Mocsta wrote:On September 21 2013 22:42 Koshi wrote:
I want to lynch Mocst
Reason: People that make special posts always end up being scum.
Acrofoles: GoT
Persona: Crazometer
Aperture: Alakaslam (he was even more special than otherwise, with the evul bee posts)
Golden Sun: BH
Right... So lets get you useful. Is Geript scum? I have 0 clues. The guy had a superpowerful role in aperture and we all know how that ended. But I am very friendly towards geript because he is friendly towards me. yeah OK, more stuff that means nothing. That was a different game. You know; i have seen you replace in as town, and your game play was very different to what you are doing now. Day1 spaztic mode is over. So lets try again, one more time. - cos you didn't give a definitive answer on where you stand. Read on Geript.Then Read on WaveofShadow. :D I do not want to lynch geript. Reason: He is making cases + he is a friendly fellow. Case(s) ??? i thought he made one case based on DPs second post of the game? Why is making cases alignment indicative? Are you content with the cases? => Do you think DP is scum? I could lynch WoS atm. He tried to fling shit at VE for not going to bed when he said he was going to bed. Unless he is VE his mother there is no reason to make that post. So why is flinging shit at VE for not goign to bed, alignment indicative? Yes, I do not know if geript scum. So the only reason to lynch him would be to look at if he is useful or not. He makes cases so I do not want to lynch him. Same story for WoS but he turns to the go!go! lynch part. Dnu what is so hard to understand. Why is making cases alignment indicative? Learn to read.
Koshi
He makes cases so I do not want to lynch him.
Doesnt say anything about why making a case makes you not want to lynch him.
Geript made a case
A: Koshi likes the case. This must mean you think the case has merit => DP is scum.. *You avoided answering this question*
B. Koshi doesnt like the case. This doesn't make sense. If you don't like it, why are you blindly sticking up for Geript.
So explain in layman terms for a dumbo like me...
Why is Geript making cases alignment indicative.
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Is DP scum?
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On September 21 2013 23:23 Koshi wrote:C. Koshi doesn't give 2 fucks about the case but loves the fact geript makes cases. <Addendum> The case wasn't total shit for being a couple hours into the game. So extra points for geript.
No you came back into the thread, and ignored the entire whirlwind of Geript/DP to want to lynch me because of "special posts"..
Also, I am not defending geript. You keep asking me about geript. I simply answer.
Disagree.
On September 21 2013 22:47 Koshi wrote:
<Regarding Geript>
The guy had a superpowerful role in aperture and we all know how that ended.
But I am very friendly towards geript because he is friendly towards me. You are making some sort of connection for him being town.
I will leave this alone for a little though. Technically, you did answer the questions, regardless of whether it satisfies me.
Why didn't you consider the fact that Kush wanted to see you 2 modkilled for posting "..." in the silent period. And why are you so butthurt about that fact? You even voted kush. Rules are Rules. Kush has been banned before for abusing rules. Hes the last person i would expect to give a shit about others doing the same. + last game I replaced into where kush was scum, IIRC he tried to get me modkilled ASAP as well. I just dont see a town kush giving a shit about stuff like that. Personal heuristic.
Regardless, I voted wave of shadow yonks ago.
I got no new questions. Need more ppl to come back into the thread.
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On September 21 2013 23:31 Zaragon wrote:
Does anyone who has played with him before get any tell about whether his pattern seems more or less deliberate than his usual town? I had this feeling early and it's lingering
I have a much stronger town read on DP >> VE.
Originally, I thought VE looked really good for pointing out the Geript "manipulation" stuff.
But having read the game I dont think the point is that valid. -> its a 50/50 call to me whether it was scum manipulation or town arrogance.
Now, VE is back to null for me.
I dont get why me pointing out pandain is scummy. I get the point about instructing him to "post".. BUT.. would i not just do this in the QT? seriously, as scum, i dont think there is town cred to be gained by avoiding the current conversation (Geript/DP) to bring that to the fore.
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On September 21 2013 23:43 VisceraEyes wrote:
And I find it an odd coincidence that you mention Wave as your next most suspicious.
At the time all of that was going down, I thought geript and Wave were BOTH doing something you accused geript of, trying to whip DP into a fury.
Yes, both were baiting DP, but the key difference is that Geript was actually lined up in the firing range.
Re-reading, I found waves posting opportunistic.
If town, I just dont really get what he was trying to achieve. Exacerbated by him saying he wanted to lurk etc.
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On September 21 2013 23:52 Koshi wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On September 21 2013 23:35 Mocsta wrote:Show nested quote +On September 21 2013 23:23 Koshi wrote:C. Koshi doesn't give 2 fucks about the case but loves the fact geript makes cases. <Addendum> The case wasn't total shit for being a couple hours into the game. So extra points for geript. No you came back into the thread, and ignored the entire whirlwind of Geript/DP to want to lynch me because of "special posts".. Show nested quote +Also, I am not defending geript. You keep asking me about geript. I simply answer. Disagree. Show nested quote +On September 21 2013 22:47 Koshi wrote:
<Regarding Geript>
The guy had a superpowerful role in aperture and we all know how that ended.
But I am very friendly towards geript because he is friendly towards me. You are making some sort of connection for him being town.
I will leave this alone for a little though. Technically, you did answer the questions, regardless of whether it satisfies me.
Show nested quote +Why didn't you consider the fact that Kush wanted to see you 2 modkilled for posting "..." in the silent period. And why are you so butthurt about that fact? You even voted kush. Rules are Rules. Kush has been banned before for abusing rules. Hes the last person i would expect to give a shit about others doing the same. + last game I replaced into where kush was scum, IIRC he tried to get me modkilled ASAP as well. I just dont see a town kush giving a shit about stuff like that. Personal heuristic. Regardless, I voted wave of shadow yonks ago. I got no new questions. Need more ppl to come back into the thread. I didn't want to lynch either geript or DP. I had my eye on you. I am not defending geript. I am defending myself not having a read on geript. I don't make a connection for a town geript. I point out that geript is not easily readable and an hothead. Well he does. Still you didn't answer my question. What other option was there for Kush to ask for you 2 to get modkilled? Everybody knew it was because you 2 typed in the silent period. Most of us probably after 0.5 seconds thinking, why did it take you 6 hours to not eliminate all other options for Kush asking that? I have already explained this to both you and Kush. Take it or leave it.
+ Show Spoiler +On September 21 2013 23:01 Mocsta wrote:Show nested quote +On September 21 2013 22:56 kushm4sta wrote:
Personally I do not tihnk VE is scum and that is becauseof the way he is capitalizing words is not scummy. Kush; indulge me. Why did you want me modkilled, along with pandain. So third time. Why did you ask this? Did you really have no clue? Scum motivation ---> Interacting with others. See above.
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On September 21 2013 23:57 Stutters695 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 21 2013 23:08 Mocsta wrote:On September 21 2013 23:07 kushm4sta wrote:
becuse you talked when you said you cant talk Have you turned a new leaf or something? Since when do you care as town? So I'm awake. Can you clarify this for me Mocsta. I got that you're implying that a caring kush is a scum kush, but this post imply you think he's town. Can you explain what's different about him this time to why you think he's town instead of scum?
Is this a serious question?
Out of everything in the thread, you are pulling up this quote; and completely taking it out of context? WTF
Comeback when you have read the game... NOT a good start for you.
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On September 22 2013 00:05 geript wrote:Show nested quote +On September 22 2013 00:00 Mocsta wrote:On September 21 2013 23:57 Stutters695 wrote:On September 21 2013 23:08 Mocsta wrote:On September 21 2013 23:07 kushm4sta wrote:
becuse you talked when you said you cant talk Have you turned a new leaf or something? Since when do you care as town? So I'm awake. Can you clarify this for me Mocsta. I got that you're implying that a caring kush is a scum kush, but this post imply you think he's town. Can you explain what's different about him this time to why you think he's town instead of scum? Is this a serious question? Out of everything in the thread, you are pulling up this quote; and completely taking it out of context? WTF Comeback when you have read the game... NOT a good start for you. Chill Moc, it's not that huge. I still don't get why you like DP at all. Either way lets move on a new subject some, can you fully explain why you don't like my wubbybumpkins? I have lots of little reservations about him.
Playing voice mafia now, and its fuckn complicated - > 4bus drivers.
So, will have to go into more detail tomorrow.
If you have reservations, perhaps you can share now. Give us more insight into your mindset.
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On September 22 2013 00:07 justanothertownie wrote:
Hi guys...
Mocsta do you think Koshi is town or scum?
Btw. if anybody wants me to comment on something specific feel free to point me to it.
I feel better about him now than I did early game. Null currently.
Give a read on Sentinel + Wave pl0x
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On September 22 2013 00:30 justanothertownie wrote:Wave: His posts about the Geript/DP argument (about them overdoing it) do make sense to me but they are not alignment indicative. Scum could easily point that out too. Null. What I don't really understand is this: Show nested quote +On September 21 2013 13:22 WaveofShadow wrote:
Honestly DP I have a question for you.
Are you town?
If so, do you want to be killed N1?
Do you enjoy being killed N1? (I seem to remember that you don't.)
All of the above questions lead to these ones:
Why go hardcore (as town) right from the get-go if you know it places a target directly onto your back?
If you don't care either way, do you think you would be able to be more useful to the town in the first day than you could be as the game progresses? What is the intention behind this? I must admit that I don't know DPs meta but it is not very townie to call someone out for trying hard as a townie.
This is the crux of my issues as well.
Welcome to the town club.
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On September 22 2013 00:36 WaveofShadow wrote:
If you guys know anything about DP then you know exactly why I asked those questions.
I know nothing of DP. Enlighten me.
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On September 22 2013 01:49 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On September 22 2013 01:47 LoneMeow wrote:On September 22 2013 01:35 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:As I went to the voting thread I noticed LoneMeow voted Pandain. So I found his filter. On September 21 2013 21:55 LoneMeow wrote:
Not sure what to make of this geript vs the world thing.
Mocsta jumping on Pandain (before the ninja vote) seemed weird and I am suspicious.
I do want Pandain to explain his vote though. Until he does,
##Vote: Pandain On September 21 2013 22:29 LoneMeow wrote:On September 21 2013 22:04 Mocsta wrote:On September 21 2013 21:55 LoneMeow wrote:
Not sure what to make of this geript vs the world thing.
Mocsta jumping on Pandain (before the ninja vote) seemed weird and I am suspicious.
I do want Pandain to explain his vote though. Until he does,
##Vote: Pandain I'm here; what don't you like about my explanation here: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=423071¤tpage=35#684 It feels like you were just looking for someone to jump on. That doesn't feel very town way to play D1. Not enough to say I'd have a scum read on you, but I'll be watching your actions. These posts feel scummy. LoneMeow places an easy vote on Pandain, and condemns Mocsta for jumping on Pandain early. LM states that looking for someone to jump on doesn't feel very townie, but LM himself jumps on Pandain. "I'm suspicious of you, but not enough to say I have a scum read" --- it feels pretty sticky to me. The problematic part of Mocsta's attack on Pandain is what happened before the ninja vote. Also, wrt. Pandain, is there any valid town explanation why he'd vote but not explain his vote? Why would scum vote but not explain their vote? Does it seem like a particularly good idea for scum to do it? I think it is more likely that town would do something like that, than mafia. Geript as scum did it in the game.
which you were in... jeezzzz louise
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On September 22 2013 01:59 DarthPunk wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On September 22 2013 01:56 Mocsta wrote:Show nested quote +On September 22 2013 01:49 DarthPunk wrote:On September 22 2013 01:47 LoneMeow wrote:On September 22 2013 01:35 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:As I went to the voting thread I noticed LoneMeow voted Pandain. So I found his filter. On September 21 2013 21:55 LoneMeow wrote:
Not sure what to make of this geript vs the world thing.
Mocsta jumping on Pandain (before the ninja vote) seemed weird and I am suspicious.
I do want Pandain to explain his vote though. Until he does,
##Vote: Pandain On September 21 2013 22:29 LoneMeow wrote:On September 21 2013 22:04 Mocsta wrote:On September 21 2013 21:55 LoneMeow wrote:
Not sure what to make of this geript vs the world thing.
Mocsta jumping on Pandain (before the ninja vote) seemed weird and I am suspicious.
I do want Pandain to explain his vote though. Until he does,
##Vote: Pandain I'm here; what don't you like about my explanation here: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=423071¤tpage=35#684 It feels like you were just looking for someone to jump on. That doesn't feel very town way to play D1. Not enough to say I'd have a scum read on you, but I'll be watching your actions. These posts feel scummy. LoneMeow places an easy vote on Pandain, and condemns Mocsta for jumping on Pandain early. LM states that looking for someone to jump on doesn't feel very townie, but LM himself jumps on Pandain. "I'm suspicious of you, but not enough to say I have a scum read" --- it feels pretty sticky to me. The problematic part of Mocsta's attack on Pandain is what happened before the ninja vote. Also, wrt. Pandain, is there any valid town explanation why he'd vote but not explain his vote? Why would scum vote but not explain their vote? Does it seem like a particularly good idea for scum to do it? I think it is more likely that town would do something like that, than mafia. Geript as scum did it in the game. which you were in... jeezzzz louise Did I say it was impossible for scum to do it? no. But i think it is Less likely that scum would do it. Do you disagree with that? I don't think it matters what I think is more or less likely. I still want him to contribute to the thread by the deadline,, preferably, within the first 24hrs.
I can't think of a reason why you would want a different outcome?
So, if you are commenting prematurely ---> are you finding it scummy that ppl want a response? otherwise, why not just wait for pandain to comment?
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##Unvote: Wave
##Vote: Sentinel
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Voting for Vayne/Coag is ridiculous for Day1. They do this type of play regardless of alignment, and its a total crapshoot.
At least have the kahunas to call it a policy lynch.
Yamato read on me is a joke. Theres nothing to respond to, because his points is "meta" with no extension to how it actually applies to this game.
Waves defense read a touch forced to me. However, a townie has every reason to "refine" their defense as well. So will give him benefit of the doubt for now.
Sentinel has maintained enough activity to not be forgotten, but has essentially contributed nothing. Ideal scum "flying under the radar" play; exacerbated by his coagulation vote here
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=423071&user=[UoN]Sentinel¤tpage=3
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