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justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16342 Posts
October 01 2013 16:03 GMT
#5474
Ok, Mocsta. Sounds good.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16342 Posts
October 01 2013 16:12 GMT
#5479
On October 02 2013 01:07 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2013 00:48 Risen wrote:
On October 02 2013 00:12 Mocsta wrote:
On October 02 2013 00:07 Risen wrote:
On October 01 2013 23:56 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
I maintain that the first post you quoted brings up nearly zero new evidence and simply brings up things others have said before

It isn't just the first post. It's the first post rolling into the second I meant to post. I'm not saying iamp is town, I have a null read on him because I think he might know too much and that's why his reads feel good. This is me saying he shouldn't be the lynch today because a scum member (if he's scum) who's going to give us knowledge backed reads with cases is someone I would like to keep around. If he's alive past tonight I'll be shocked. I'd kill him if I was scum. Or I'd kill me.

I think the lynch today comes down to Mocsta or Stutters. Mocsta if you believe town can't be stupid and/or his play needs to be punished (I was in camp #2 since I had given up on the game). If you have other reasoning you need to post an actual case on Mocsta. I haven't seen one go beyond parroting my stance on town not fake claiming against a claimed doctor, which still holds water, just not as much as what makes stutters scum. Stutters if you believe someone who has lied about what they would do this game and lurked instead while making anti-town posts (largely filler).

You are an absolute moron.
I made a case on Stutters days ago. But, of course its bussing even though the things I wrote are the exact same problems you all have with him now.

Fucken imbecile you are.

My post was a defense of you.
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2013 00:07 Risen wrote:I think the lynch today comes down to Mocsta or Stutters.

/sarcasm: Nice defense.....

I'm getting concerned now though, because I know I am town.
I also know Geript had a solid case on you; and I dont recall you tearing it down. (Just checked filter, and you definitely didn't respond to it)

Yet you parade in here, trying to control the lynch.

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On September 27 2013 11:33 Risen wrote:
After Cephiro, Mocsta, and FT are dead Geript should probably be the next to go. No way a townie tries to do anything to this Cephiro train. On top of this it comes off as a scum Geript trying to nitpick town posts in an attempt to get a mislynch. He saw something he felt he could exploit (he knew marv was town, and he knew marv would flip with the daypost) and is now trying to push it.
Where did your FT read go?

Where did the ZEN-like feeling go?
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16342 Posts
October 01 2013 16:14 GMT
#5482
On October 02 2013 01:04 kitaman27 wrote:
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On October 02 2013 00:51 Risen wrote:
On October 02 2013 00:43 kitaman27 wrote:
On October 02 2013 00:00 Risen wrote:
JAT blank the thread and just read those four's filters. This isn't a lurker lynch on Stutters, this is a liar lynch. His being a lurker just makes it seem like a lurker lynch.


Stutters seems like the most likely mislynch bait in my opinion.

I don't think a "liar lynch" really makes sense, since a town or a mafia player really wouldn't want say they are working on a post, then never deliver. There is no scum benefit for saying something like that and then going away. He has been pretty much absent the last few days. I can see him being town, I can see him being mafia. I would much rather go after a player with a filter that you can actually analyze when a kp is one the line.

How can you say this and have FT at the top of people you want lynched?


Both players are not contributing.

However, FT is attempting to appear as if he is contributing, while stutters is simply gone.

Look at these phrases. They are far too self-aware to be town.

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FirmTofu
"As town, I am more interested in determining his alignment."

"I can and will redeem myself for whatever you may think makes me scum."

""Finally got some decent reads."

"Now for a solid scum read!"

"Now I have to sift through this nonsense to find something of value..."

"This isn't spamming. I'm trying to solve this game"


Also, look how concerned he is about other's opinions of his. He spends more time looking for others to question him, than he does questioning people he actually thinks are scummy.

Show nested quote +
FirmTofu
"Any questions for me?"

"If you want to discuss why my thoughts are poorly reasoned, I willing to have a go at it."

"If you have any questions for me, I will answer them."

"Marv, you need anything from me?"

"You've said numerous times that it would be really useful to know my alignment because it would help decipher the votecount for Day 1. How exactly would this help you? "

"VE, you seem convinced I am scum. Would you like to ask me any questions that could help you read me? I will answer them to the best of my ability."


"Just ask me whatever and I'll respond as best I can."

I did this a lot this game. That alone is no point against him in my opinion. His voting pattern and general contentless posting is though.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16342 Posts
October 01 2013 16:37 GMT
#5497
On October 02 2013 01:32 Koshi wrote:
I made clear why I thought you were scum in 2-3 posts somewhere Mocsta.
But it's cool. I'll vote anybody on my list.
If we lynch town scum has at least 7 nk in future nights. Seems like all blues vanished. Or we had only 1 of each. Well at least the doc got a save.

You forget CCs claim.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16342 Posts
October 01 2013 16:56 GMT
#5502
On October 02 2013 01:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Koshi and JAT too?

Working on this give me some time.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16342 Posts
October 01 2013 17:13 GMT
#5509
On October 02 2013 02:10 Risen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2013 02:06 iamperfection wrote:
do you think its scum bs or is he being bad?

In this game I don't know, normally I'd say scum. I very recently played with rayne and I swear he wasn't like this. It makes me think he's purposefully playing different to mask his meta with me, which I think is scummy, but might not be.

Are you really saying rayn is playing differently just because of you?
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16342 Posts
October 01 2013 17:17 GMT
#5511
Iamperfection who do you want to lynch and why?
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16342 Posts
October 01 2013 17:31 GMT
#5522
On October 02 2013 02:17 justanothertownie wrote:
Iamperfection who do you want to lynch and why?

!
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16342 Posts
October 01 2013 17:52 GMT
#5529
I analysed the voting a bit more indepht.

I am a little hesitant to lynch FT to be honest. If he was scum there should be scum on the other wagon Day1, no? Well, I don't see scum there. There are confirmed townies + rayn, sentinel (who both voted cephiro Day2) and Kush/Kitaman. Also, Kita: Mocsta is on the FT wagon. If you think he is scum then FT probably is not. Of course this is not perfect because the lynch was chaotic due to the host mistakes.
Apart from that I understand the urge to vote FT because he wastes his vote everyday and doesn't contribute shit.

Opinions?
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16342 Posts
October 01 2013 18:01 GMT
#5531
Stutters is the coinflip here. He looks bad for voting LM but at least he is consistent because he voted him Day1 and Day2. Apart from that no information to be had.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16342 Posts
October 01 2013 18:06 GMT
#5533
On October 02 2013 03:03 Risen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2013 03:01 justanothertownie wrote:
Stutters is the coinflip here. He looks bad for voting LM but at least he is consistent because he voted him Day1 and Day2. Apart from that no information to be had.

You're disregarding the post you yourself pointed out to me earlier. It's not a coin flip, he has played scummy this game, and he's managed to do it in a filter as short as his is. Decon has done that too!

He/both played really really bad. Don't know if scum or not -> coinflip.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16342 Posts
October 01 2013 18:09 GMT
#5534
At the moment I think I prefer iamp as the lynch of the FT/iamp/stutters pool.
But I am interested in what he has to say - especially about the people he wants to lynch.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16342 Posts
October 01 2013 18:16 GMT
#5538
On October 02 2013 03:14 FirmTofu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2013 17:47 Koshi wrote:
Scum mocsta so tryhard.
##unvote
##vote FirmTofu

Why are you voting me? Most of your posts indicate that Mocsta is a stronger scumread of yours than I am. You've talked more about Mocsta and you've expressed fear that I may flip town. If you were town, I'd expect you to be voting for Mocsta right now.

Good point. Who do you want to lynch or are you gonna waste your vote again?
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16342 Posts
October 01 2013 18:19 GMT
#5544
On October 02 2013 03:17 iamperfection wrote:
and i actually think rayn is most likely to be mafia i think i caught him with his hand in the cookie jar.

Kita stop being silly and read what i have said about rayn ill be back in a few hours.

This is really all we get?
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16342 Posts
October 01 2013 18:21 GMT
#5547
I am with kita and rayn.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16342 Posts
October 01 2013 18:23 GMT
#5549
Does anyone really have his vote on Mocsta? Besides coag perhaps?
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16342 Posts
October 01 2013 18:45 GMT
#5561
On October 02 2013 03:41 kitaman27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2013 03:35 Risen wrote:
My thoughts on the subject

Iamp looks scummy, but has had some good reads. Does he know too much? I don't know. It's something to look into later for me, but as long as his reads and actions line up with mine I don't care.


How can you say he has some good reads? Have you looked at his list post? He was like 0/5, with a scum read on Sent, who I also think is town. He was wrong about ceph and LoneMeow. He has a mafia read on rayn, who I think is town. He has a town read on stutters, which seems to conflict with what you think. He had a scum read on you, which would obviously conflict with what you think. deconduo might be scum, but I don't think he is one of the strongest candidates. Where exactly are all these great reads that you're seeing? If anything, he has had the worst reads this game.

Ok. Prepare for WIFOM.
Why would a scum team around iamp shoot 3 of those 5 "scumreads" last night and confirm them town?
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16342 Posts
October 01 2013 18:49 GMT
#5564
On October 02 2013 03:47 kitaman27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2013 03:45 justanothertownie wrote:
On October 02 2013 03:41 kitaman27 wrote:
On October 02 2013 03:35 Risen wrote:
My thoughts on the subject

Iamp looks scummy, but has had some good reads. Does he know too much? I don't know. It's something to look into later for me, but as long as his reads and actions line up with mine I don't care.


How can you say he has some good reads? Have you looked at his list post? He was like 0/5, with a scum read on Sent, who I also think is town. He was wrong about ceph and LoneMeow. He has a mafia read on rayn, who I think is town. He has a town read on stutters, which seems to conflict with what you think. He had a scum read on you, which would obviously conflict with what you think. deconduo might be scum, but I don't think he is one of the strongest candidates. Where exactly are all these great reads that you're seeing? If anything, he has had the worst reads this game.

Ok. Prepare for WIFOM.
Why would a scum team around iamp shoot 3 of those 5 "scumreads" last night and confirm them town?


Heh dunno. Why would a scum team shoot those 3, period? At first I thought it could be their suspicion of FT, but it's also possible they are going for the "dodge the medic" game.

Maybe. But they didn't do it N2. Also they let people like you or rayn live what I don't really understand. At first I thought those kills should frame Mocsta because those were also scumreads of him at some point.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16342 Posts
October 01 2013 19:29 GMT
#5627
Please explain your iamp townread Pandain.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16342 Posts
October 01 2013 19:46 GMT
#5641
So, Pandain. Your defense of iamp basically consists of: he made some posts, gave some reads -> has to be town right?
Apart from the WIFOM I already brought up.
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