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raynpelikoneet
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Risen
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On September 24 2013 02:53 kushm4sta wrote: Lol wtf is the point of all these detailed as Fuck vig lists It's so people can look active without actually doing anything. | ||
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WaveofShadow
Canada31495 Posts
On September 24 2013 03:27 Risen wrote: It's so people can look active without actually doing anything. Yup I'm clearly guilty of that. | ||
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justanothertownie
16322 Posts
On September 24 2013 03:13 raynpelikoneet wrote: Btw JAT, if you are still here. Who are your scumreads? I still don't have very strong reads. There are a few people I am relatively confident are town but noone I am sure is scum. People that look bad and come to mind are FT (no improvement and the lynch doesn't make him look better), Risen (I have to admit I don't know this guy at all so maybe he is just a player who doesn't give a fuck at all? - really anti town though), kush (as you said he can do better we will see Day2). I am also slightly suspicious of Mocsta because of his voting behaviour yesterday and because he obviously has a quite strong townread on me (I mean there is nothing wrong with it but the last player who read me town strongly while nobody else did was scum). I wouldn't lynch him though. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
On September 24 2013 03:38 justanothertownie wrote: I still don't have very strong reads. There are a few people I am relatively confident are town but noone I am sure is scum. People that look bad and come to mind are FT (no improvement and the lynch doesn't make him look better), Risen (I have to admit I don't know this guy at all so maybe he is just a player who doesn't give a fuck at all? - really anti town though), kush (as you said he can do better we will see Day2). I am also slightly suspicious of Mocsta because of his voting behaviour yesterday and because he obviously has a quite strong townread on me (I mean there is nothing wrong with it but the last player who read me town strongly while nobody else did was scum). I wouldn't lynch him though. Could you elaborate on the lynch thing on FT? Does that make him look worse? I don't really follow what do you mean by "the lynch does not make him look better". Also what specifically on Mocsta's voting behavior looks bad to you? I agree that his townread on you is weird. | ||
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justanothertownie
16322 Posts
On September 23 2013 23:24 marvellosity wrote: I'll tell you the oddest thing about Mocsta from my perspective. He came into the thread with his Chairman case, and was really convinced by it, and upheld it repeatedly. Then Wave expressed some kinda doubts and Mocsta is like "oh yeah, hmm" and just unvotes like that. Seems like he was pushed off it really easily given how absolutely convinced he sounded about it. FT does not look better after the lynch because he was the second wagon besides a townie. Does not mean he has to be scum but it is absolutely possible. Some people even tried so save him (like geript). | ||
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raynpelikoneet
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justanothertownie
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WaveofShadow
Canada31495 Posts
On September 24 2013 03:51 justanothertownie wrote: If I remember this correctly he switched when ray was clearly in the lead so maybe he wanted to distance himself from the still happening lynch of a townie? Are you looking for reasons to fit Mocsta's actions to your read of him? | ||
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justanothertownie
16322 Posts
On September 24 2013 03:55 WaveofShadow wrote: Are you looking for reasons to fit Mocsta's actions to your read of him? Nope the things I said are the reasons for my suspicion (not a real scumread right now) of him. | ||
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justanothertownie
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VisceraEyes
United States21170 Posts
2: raynpelikoneet 3: WaveofShadow 4: gumshoe 5: yamato77 6: kushm4sta 7: Koshi 8: ObviousOne 9: Chairman Ray 10: FirmTofu 11: Pandain 12: Cephiro 13: Mr. Cheesecake 14: Xzavier 15: Coagulation 16: Stutters695 17: Onegu 18: Zenatsu 19: [UoN]Sentinel 20: VisceraEyes 21: VayneAuthority 22: geript 23: Risen 24: LoneMeow 25: marvellosity 26: Zaragon 27: Mattchew 28: Umasi 29: justanothertownie 30: Mocsta Okay this is where I stand going into reread mode. If anyone has any questions for me get them into the thread. I realize there are probably too many red names, but these are where most of my suspicions lie. I'll be doing a mix of filtering and rereading, so I may be delayed in responding. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
On September 24 2013 03:51 justanothertownie wrote: If I remember this correctly he switched when ray was clearly in the lead so maybe he wanted to distance himself from the still happening lynch of a townie? No that's not right. Mocsta switched one minute before the dedaline, the votes were at that time CR (6), FT (3) -> Mocsta made them CR (5), FT (4). Both of CR & FT had yet to vote. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
On September 24 2013 04:20 VisceraEyes wrote: 1: DarthPunk 2: raynpelikoneet 3: WaveofShadow 4: gumshoe 5: yamato77 6: kushm4sta 7: Koshi 8: ObviousOne 9: Chairman Ray 10: FirmTofu 11: Pandain 12: Cephiro 13: Mr. Cheesecake 14: Xzavier 15: Coagulation 16: Stutters695 17: Onegu 18: Zenatsu 19: [UoN]Sentinel 20: VisceraEyes 21: VayneAuthority 22: geript 23: Risen 24: LoneMeow 25: marvellosity 26: Zaragon 27: Mattchew 28: Umasi 29: justanothertownie 30: Mocsta Okay this is where I stand going into reread mode. If anyone has any questions for me get them into the thread. I realize there are probably too many red names, but these are where most of my suspicions lie. I'll be doing a mix of filtering and rereading, so I may be delayed in responding. gumshoe, Coag, OO. explain those. | ||
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VisceraEyes
United States21170 Posts
Coag is mostly a gut feeling. I feel like I'd be further up on his scum list if he were town - I haven't done a whole lot this game and it's raising a lot of peoples' hackles, but not Coag's. gumshoe is the lurkiest lurker. I feel like scum are lurking, and no one is drawing attention to gumshoe like at all. This is suspicious to me, but it's also not conclusive. Again, mostly feels. | ||
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justanothertownie
16322 Posts
On September 24 2013 04:22 raynpelikoneet wrote: No that's not right. Mocsta switched one minute before the dedaline, the votes were at that time CR (6), FT (3) -> Mocsta made them CR (5), FT (4). Both of CR & FT had yet to vote. Hmm, that's closer than I thought. Hard to see the real motivations here because it was chaotic and nobody knew when the deadline really was. Seems like it would only make sense for scum Mocsta to change if FT was town (otherwise it would be really ballsy). | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
On September 24 2013 04:26 VisceraEyes wrote: OO just isn't as engaged as I expect him to be at this stage in the game. A lot of stuff has happened, a lot of people have said things they can be held to, and OO isn't prodding/poking people the way I've come to expect him to as town. Most of his posts have stank of "Hi guys, I'm here and reading and am townie just like you!" Coag is mostly a gut feeling. I feel like I'd be further up on his scum list if he were town - I haven't done a whole lot this game and it's raising a lot of peoples' hackles, but not Coag's. gumshoe is the lurkiest lurker. I feel like scum are lurking, and no one is drawing attention to gumshoe like at all. This is suspicious to me, but it's also not conclusive. Again, mostly feels. Okay so what differentiates gumshoe from Xzavier, Onegu and Zenatsu? | ||
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WaveofShadow
Canada31495 Posts
On September 24 2013 04:20 VisceraEyes wrote: 1: DarthPunk 2: raynpelikoneet 3: WaveofShadow 4: gumshoe 5: yamato77 6: kushm4sta 7: Koshi 8: ObviousOne 9: Chairman Ray 10: FirmTofu 11: Pandain 12: Cephiro 13: Mr. Cheesecake 14: Xzavier 15: Coagulation 16: Stutters695 17: Onegu 18: Zenatsu 19: [UoN]Sentinel 20: VisceraEyes 21: VayneAuthority 22: geript 23: Risen 24: LoneMeow 25: marvellosity 26: Zaragon 27: Mattchew 28: Umasi 29: justanothertownie 30: Mocsta Okay this is where I stand going into reread mode. If anyone has any questions for me get them into the thread. I realize there are probably too many red names, but these are where most of my suspicions lie. I'll be doing a mix of filtering and rereading, so I may be delayed in responding. I'm pretty bothered by the fact that many of these red names are present in my vig-list in one form or another. Do you really believe that the entire scumteam is being lurky/useless and they do not have one strong member? | ||
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VisceraEyes
United States21170 Posts
On September 24 2013 04:28 raynpelikoneet wrote: Okay so what differentiates gumshoe from Xzavier, Onegu and Zenatsu? Well strictly speaking, nothing...but I feel like I've seen those three names brought by others up more. I might be misremembering, or remembering Xz and Onegu from playing with them before maybe, but that's my reasoning. Again, that read is mostly gut and hard to explain. I don't expect you to like it, only acknowledge it and take it into account if/when I flip. | ||
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VisceraEyes
United States21170 Posts
On September 24 2013 04:30 WaveofShadow wrote: I'm pretty bothered by the fact that many of these red names are present in my vig-list in one form or another. Do you really believe that the entire scumteam is being lurky/useless and they do not have one strong member? I would consider both OO and Mattchew to be strong members. | ||
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