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justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16322 Posts
September 30 2013 09:29 GMT
#5129
Mocsta you drunk? Geripts flip was revealed -> townie. Also, wtf...

And whats up with all those (former) lurky bastards spamming up the thread?! I am confused.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16322 Posts
September 30 2013 16:12 GMT
#5163
On September 30 2013 22:41 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 30 2013 21:48 kitaman27 wrote:
Breaking Bad kinda ruined any plans of catch up last night, but I'm now up to page 200 so I'll be sure to finish and post thoughts this morning.

On September 30 2013 19:14 Koshi wrote:
Ahyeah why I said Kita was confirmed town.

Hosts kinda fucked town over day 1 with the shortened time
Town is losing this
I cannot believe hosts are now going to give scum a night 3 replacement. + a town replacement in n3 can be shot.
---> Kita is town.


Maybe it's lame but seriously, hosts are not going to swap a scummer n3 in this game.


This is really sketchy reasoning for knowing that I'm town. At first I thought you might be a parity cop or something with your weird instance that I was town, but now that you're trying to explain it with this makes it seem as if you're trying to buddy up with me or something. I will definitely need to tackle your filter.

I don't know you are town, silly. I say it is logical because hosts aren't going to replace a scummer on N3 in this game.

Koshi, seriously. Stop assuming things about the hosting. You did this in the Newbie game we played together too and you were horribly wrong.
On October 01 2013 00:22 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
I can't help but feel that you are scum trying to direct a mislynch onto Mocsta. Mocsta put himself as THE target for scrutiny with that doctor fakeclaim. That's fucking ballsy as mafia -- like LM probably would have been lynched anyway without that fakeclaim. You were trying to push him yesterday instead of cephiro... and I can just imagine what would have happened. Mocsta flips town, shitfest ensues, etc etc.

You have done nothing to convince the town other than say Pandain / OO / Geript scum in those regards, and with Mocsta it's a bunch of shitflinging between you and Risen alternating shifts.

This is not true. I am all for pressuring VE but the bolded part is wrong.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16322 Posts
September 30 2013 16:20 GMT
#5165
If I remember this correctly Cephiro was leading in votes before the fakeclaim and there were more than 4 people who voted LM due to it.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16322 Posts
September 30 2013 16:22 GMT
#5166
Also Mocsta tried hist best to prevent the Cephiro lynch even before. He tried to start another wagon more than once (on geript and zaragon).
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16322 Posts
September 30 2013 16:26 GMT
#5168
People who voted LM after the fakeclaim: VisceraEyes, deconduo, Umasi, Pandain, Zaragon
Geript tried to vote him too but was too late.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16322 Posts
September 30 2013 16:29 GMT
#5171
He could be pretty sure people would trust him over LoneMeow.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16322 Posts
September 30 2013 16:34 GMT
#5175
To think about:
On September 26 2013 09:54 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 26 2013 09:51 iamperfection wrote:
i dont think we have enough votes to switch to anyone that already dosnt have votes however.

50% of the game is between Ceph/LoneMeow.

That means we can get 50% of the game on zara.. and then with a proper 3way (7 votes each) it will be interesting to see how the wagons respond to each other.

How the hell are we going to figure anything out by a 3way lynch?
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16322 Posts
September 30 2013 16:43 GMT
#5180
Yeah, good post. I like the 4 targets.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16322 Posts
September 30 2013 17:00 GMT
#5183
On October 01 2013 01:57 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2013 01:52 Koshi wrote:
Just kill Mocsta...


Vote VE until he does something.

I like this approach.
##vote: VisceraEyes
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16322 Posts
October 01 2013 14:28 GMT
#5414
Ok, caught up again. The only things I still have to read are Mocstas streamposts (too long...).
On October 01 2013 06:57 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2013 06:50 Pandain wrote:
Going to make a compilation later of why VE is scum part two

HOW ABOUT INSTEAD YOU COMMENT ON THE POST I JUST MADE REGARDING IAMPERFECTION?!?!?!?

YOU'RE ALL FUCKING SHITTY THAT I'M NOT HELPING TOWN, WELL HERE I AM MOTHERFUCKER! HOW ABOUT YOU EXPLAIN WHY I'M WRONG OR AGREE WITH WHAT I SAY RATHER THAN JUST POST "..." IN RESPONSE?!?

ACTUALLYU FUCK THIS. MODKILL ME TOO! MZ, I'M PMING EVERYONE IN THE GAME THAT I'M TOWN

The townies modkilling themselves are really starting to piss me off. I kind of understand it for geript because it seems he just is like that but VE? Really? A few people voting you for perfectly fine reasons and you just flip out like that? You even started to contribute which was the only reason some people (like me) to vote you and in a good way if I may say so. My vote would have instantly gone off you after the iamp case if I had not been sleeping. Why do you have to suicide after that. I don't get it.
On October 01 2013 06:58 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
Alright. Thug Life is finally getting down to normal levels. Time to say useful things.

I don't normally touch the VE-marv-BH trio with a 20 foot pole. This is why I don't talk about them and this is why I don't want to talk about them. They intimidate me.

Mocsta's been irkin' my jerkin' for a while this game, but after re-reading the last nine pages of his filter I can see him going full yolo and trying to get LM out. He also makes up for it by shifting his contributions into overdrive later in the thread, and I don't see why a scum who just lost town a full cycle of time would put himself in the limelight and willingly engage in conversation with anyone who's here.

Geript's death also contributes to it as he tried to save ceph as a townie. So precedent.

Show nested quote +
On September 30 2013 22:14 Mocsta wrote:
On September 30 2013 22:10 Pandain wrote:
Rayn where have you been

Stop ignoring me


Essentially sums it up. So here is what I have in short:

Risen pushes Mocsta and geript, with the prior being mostly for the voteswitch and the latter being defensive since geript started attacking Risen. He's done nothing else of value to the thread lately.

Pandain has gotten better. His level of contibution has gone up and he's stopped going after the lurkers.

Stutters695 The awesome post was horrible.

After I come home from swim practice I will elaborate on my two reads as well as others.

My scumteam right now is Risen, Stutters, Cheesecake, iamperfection, +1

How is Mocsta being active after that shit a towntell? If he wasn't he would be instalynched. Bad point.
On October 01 2013 15:31 ObviousOne wrote:
Wow I just spent an hour with my spreadsheet staring at the data. All I learned is that colors are pretty and that they make me sleepy. Not doing the actual research because I'm going to bed but some angles that arise from what I'm seeing.


People who aren't really utilizing their vote powers [aka voting the minimum, not using their "powers"]:
- Stutters (3 votes over 3 days)
- S&B (3 votes over 3 days but did not vote on day 3)
- iamperfection (2 votes over 3 days, day 1 had no vote before replacing in)


If any of the above demonstrate a lot of uncertainty about where their vote is placed, that might be cause for concern. Uncertainty but not moving their vote and shit reasons for staying = dig deeper.


People with better-than-good voting records [arguably could be too perfect]:
- Risen votes: 1: vayne cephiro | 2: firmtofu | 3: Cephiro
- JAT: 1: firmtofu mattchew | 2: cephiro | 3: cephiro

Paying a ton of attention or working with inside knowledge. Did they campaign for their lynches of choice or did they simply vote? Was their reasoning sound? "Too perfect" is how I used VCA to catch out geript after I had died in LXI. It's not out of the question. Firm flipping red will make these even more "perfect".


Willy-nilly voters [More than half of their votes on confirmed town]:
- FirmTofu
- Mr. Cheesecake
- Mocsta
- Pandain

Careless of image, or carefully crafting one?

+ Show Spoiler [objective voting rated ascending] +

10: FirmTofu -1.00
13: Mr. Cheesecake -0.57
30: Mocsta -0.57
11: Pandain -0.56
16: Stutters695 -0.33
06: kushm4sta Kitaman27 -0.25
08: ObviousOne -0.20
19: [UoN]Sentinel -0.14
02: raynpelikoneet -0.10
01: DarthPunk strongandbig 0.00
07: Koshi 0.00
14: Xzavier Decondou 0.00
15: Coagulation 0.00
17: Onegu iamperfection 0.00
23: Risen 0.25
29: justanothertownie 0.25

Please do some more than just listing things everyone can look up for themselves. I like it but your reads are the important part.

justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16322 Posts
October 01 2013 14:31 GMT
#5417
In any case Stutters is mocking town with his promises.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16322 Posts
October 01 2013 14:47 GMT
#5426
It probably is his attempt to not appear on the wagons for the 4th consecutive day.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16322 Posts
October 01 2013 14:47 GMT
#5428
EBWOP: FTs mentioning of deconduo.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16322 Posts
October 01 2013 14:58 GMT
#5440
This is going to be hard. Mocsta are you still there? If yes, how long?

I have to find out if I want to lynch you or one of FT, Stutters and iamp. Too many options...
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16322 Posts
October 01 2013 15:04 GMT
#5442
On October 02 2013 00:00 Risen wrote:
JAT blank the thread and just read those four's filters. This isn't a lurker lynch on Stutters, this is a liar lynch. His being a lurker just makes it seem like a lurker lynch.

On October 01 2013 23:31 justanothertownie wrote:
In any case Stutters is mocking town with his promises.

I know what this is...
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16322 Posts
October 01 2013 15:15 GMT
#5451
You prefer FT over iamp kita?
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16322 Posts
October 01 2013 15:21 GMT
#5454
Is iamp a good townie generally? If yes I think I prefer to lynch him over FT. FT is a horrible townie and I am still not entirely sure if this or scum FT is the case.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16322 Posts
October 01 2013 15:22 GMT
#5456
On October 02 2013 00:12 kitaman27 wrote:
The thing about Mocsta that worries me is that he is so open to any of the other lynch candidates. Anything that will save him from biting the bullet seems to be fine with him.

I understood this as points in favor of you.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16322 Posts
October 01 2013 15:24 GMT
#5460
I read VEs case (good) I read Mocstas case (also good) and I know Marv was highly suspicious of him. I at no point in time had the impression that iamp was helping this town out.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16322 Posts
October 01 2013 15:46 GMT
#5467
On October 02 2013 00:43 Mocsta wrote:
JAT
Im gonna head off soon. I thought there was something you wanted to ask me?
Worse comes to worse, I will answer when I wake up. Please send through whatever you had in mind.

What I wanted to know was basically answered by now. The other reason was your vote which will be on FT now I guess? You don't come back before the lynch or do you?
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