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anyway I dont think talking about Acro being elected means shit right now. Lets wait for the next claim and not spam this thread up. | ||
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On August 11 2013 17:37 Oatsmaster wrote: Because his scumreads are really weird and he hasnt done anything outside that. Why did you vote for Risen? ![[image loading]](http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lsxtglsUrC1qmhv2lo1_500.jpg) Try reading the thread | ||
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How are you left with me being Scum? Nothing in the OP suggests every house must have at least 1 scum, and we don't even know how many are in the game. You want to think about this a little harder? | ||
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@Oats: Explain how my reasoning is bad. | ||
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On August 11 2013 18:47 Dandel Ion wrote: Then go get some instead of defending yourself? maybe? I'm trying to understand your thought process. Stop getting jumpy. You were antagonistic towards Risen earlier in the game. Why do you buy him being Town with Rayne so easily now? | ||
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DI where were you confirmed Town? And um yea, understanding your thought process is a pretty big deal. | ||
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The OP says nothing about how many Scum are in the game or how they are allocated between houses. I point this out to "defend" myself. How is this setup speculation and not just reading the OP? You are the one assuming there must be at least 1 scum in each house. | ||
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If you think I am Scum, you should want to lynch me. Today. I haven't seen you push anyone else to be lynched so what's the hold up? | ||
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On August 11 2013 22:37 Acrofales wrote: I may be forced to use the too dumb to be Blackfyre line. Are you drunk? While we're on the topic, how the flying fuck did the Starks think it was a good idea to elect you? I understand not electing Strongandbig again, but you are far from an improvement. Please explain the politics of Winterfell. read his earlier conversations with me. Poor Starks, always have shit leaders. | ||
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On August 11 2013 23:47 Oberyn wrote: It's worth noting that I told iamp I thought FT should be shot and asked if they'd consider a yamato lynched. He was not open to consideration. I then PM'd iamp stating that I want yamato moved up to the priority night kill. He disagreed and insisted that gumshoe and kush be shot first. I asked Acro about his thoughts on night hits, including yamato's name and he said that he was too busy in PMs to reply. He completely dodged the question. Chromatically put yamato last on his list of night shots behind gumshoe, kush, and johnnywup stating that yamato will likely be lynched today. Things to check: Was iamp's gumshoe/kush needs to be shot first stance consistent with his stance during the day? If not he was [i]possibly[i/] possibly just trying to avoid wasting KP on yamato. Sentiment seems to be that everyone wanted to hit gumshoe who was lurking. Other explanation is scum protecting a buddy but I don't see any reasons yet for this to hold. Did chromatically know about yamato being checked when he told you he would likely be lynched the next day? Acro not responding to your PMs isn't really strange since he might not trust you. | ||
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On August 12 2013 00:26 raynpelikoneet wrote: I dunno what they have been talking with Risen, but him voting for me was weird. I told him this when i saw his replacing: "That being said: Vote for me as the house lord. Me + Risen are voting for him, we have no idea about your alignment. If Risen gets killed this phase, i am far better as a lord than you are, based on you replacing and me being active as fuck. Thanks. :D" I then changed my vote onto myself, in case Risen was killed we would have no lord. Risen wanted to be the lord. I do not think he is mafia so i am okay with it. There is no reason to get into battle with your town reads, that would only hurt our cooperation. I don´t really care if he is the lord or if i am and honestly i expected me dying during night. I don't see what was weird here? I didn't vote for you, I voted Risen because he wanted to be house lord. You told me that you would then vote for yourself just in case, remember? RE: HP checks. I missed this convo but imo Town doesn't need to know the HP of anyone in the game. Scum does. Either Town should have voted to all burn HP checks asap so no one gets an accurate read later or deal with the fact Scum may get a lord that finds out later. Also I'm guessing when the HP check is used only the Lord is notified? So a Scum Lord can use it w/o anyone knowing unless trying to use it later, correct? Because Scum need that info more than Town. That being said I think if any of the prior Lords are thought to be Scum, the next elected lord can just ask if the HP check was already used. If so chances are very high the previous Lord is Scum as they used it w/o sharing that information. Chromatically votes for yamato. waiting on rest of Lord votes and the other person to claim based on Oberyn claiming watcher. On August 12 2013 02:35 Acrofales wrote: While we wait for Mr X, I want to know more about this. With variable health, and different amounts of damage done by different swords, this simple claim doesn't make a lot of sense. Do you heal someone to full if he was hurt earlier? Do you protect someone from damage on one night? And yes, I want to know this in order to decide whether this claim is believable or not. The speed and casualness seems good, but now that I am looking into it, this seems like a very strange claim, given the particularities of our world. Well there was also a 1 shot Alignment Cop claim too right? Not farfetched to think we could have a 1 shot medic too. Seems like we have very weak blue roles in this game unless there are multiples of them. I see Onegu claims later how it actually works, pretty much a normal medic. On August 12 2013 02:44 raynpelikoneet wrote: This is scum motivation: Mafia wants to know how much HP people have much more than town. If iamp uses the check he basically has to tell his house members he is gonna use it, other wise he could get caught (if let´s say Xatalos becomes a lord and uses the check). When he tells the results, Grackaroni outs the results in thread "because dumb". If Grackaroni did not do that, and strange things start to happen with night KP, this points to Xatalos/iamp/Grackaroni. Now, when Grackaroni did out the check, if strange things start to happen it points to EVERY SINGLE FUCKING PERSON IN THE GAME! Magic! I think we should ignore this scenario until after the lynch. I kind of follow where you are going with this (except I think Grack just made a mistake). Lets just wait for this claim and other Lords to chime in on yamato. | ||
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On August 12 2013 07:31 iamperfection wrote: ace have you read the thread? Not the entire thing. When I replaced in Game was at 82 pages and I skimmed. rayne sent me a PM with some reads and interactions between players. So I used that to start the game off. I'm pretty sure I'm missing some critical info so fill me in. On August 12 2013 07:50 Grackaroni wrote: from pm's "For the kp i will use it as i use any vig shot nonsense to lurkers to scum reads to people i don't like in that order" -Iamp Ok so he was consistent with it then. gumshoe was lurking. On August 12 2013 07:55 iamperfection wrote: now why would mr ace think that it would be weird that i would push for gumshoe to die considering he probably hates nonsense more than anybody? (hint there are 3 possibilities) Nothing weird about it. I was thinking of explanations for why you would avoid shooting yamato. If you never had a stance on gumshoe before but switched to one at Night then it would be suspicious. On August 12 2013 08:00 Grackaroni wrote: I don't think he was it was saying it was weird. Only that since you deflected the shot away from Yamato if you had a contrary view to shooting lurkers then you would be more suspicious. Yes On August 12 2013 08:04 iamperfection wrote: The correct choices would be 1. ace hasn't read the thread yet because he would clearly seen after what gum did why i would want him killed. 2. Ace is bad 3. Ace is just scum and pouring nonsense in the thread while also not reading. I guess this option also includes all the above just with the added caveat of him being scum. So which one is it ace? All 3 imo. What did humshoe do? also chime in on yamato????? wat is there to chime in on?????????????? When I was writing only 1 person? voted at the time. Oats isn't voting for yamato because he thought Miller/Framer was in play earlier. Hasn't come back to the thread since yamato showed up. Risen posted but will be back before it's over. I think he should have voted for yamato asap once he posted, and if not should have a reason for doubting the claim. I'm guessing he is just catching up reading everything though. Oberyn afk since last night. On August 12 2013 08:25 raynpelikoneet wrote: Ace you not voting for me is weird because if i had gone to bed when i sent you the PM (as i originally intended) i would not have seen your response and we would have all voted for Risen. Had Risen died during the night we would now have no lord in our house. Ok I understand what happened because I just re-read the PM. At the bottom after outlining all that info you told me to vote for you, and you + Risen would vote for Risen. That way it's a definite we have a Lord if someone is killed. I misread that part and voted Risen based on you having a Town read and being fine with him getting Lordship. My mistake. | ||
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@Risen: I may have missed it but it seems you went off track. Can you post your in deoth read against Rayne or explain why you changed focus? @all: As for the Sharrant being Scum with a fake check/bus on yamato - I dont think its concrete at the moment. The thing that worries me is that he claimed 1 shot Cop which means something is up that I dont think needs much thinking to figure out if he is Town. There would have to be even more information roles around or House Powers (I still dont know much about these) would have to be strong to get us info somehow. Unless we get some more information about roles now that we have admitted double fake claims I think that is a dead end path. @Vivax: Where you at bro? | ||
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Stupid Town as always sharing too much information. Deserved to lose. | ||
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On August 20 2013 14:46 Mocsta wrote: Agree. Too focused on actions rather than motive. Ohh well u get that most games I suppose. One of the days I came back to tread the thread and saw some morons saying I was being anti-town or something because I wouldn't respond to every little thing going on. Of course the thread was LITTERED with so much useless junk and "Player X's fantastic Town Read #4!" that shit didn't get done. I think its far more anti-town when people dont know how to shut the fuck up and keep posting Town reads every time they get a chance. So fucking dumb. | ||
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On August 20 2013 15:03 Oatsmaster wrote: nah Ace I thought you were scum because you were so useless man. Be less useless next time? I was spending so much time reading and there was nothing worth talking about since yamato was going to be lynched. I screwed up and got myself modkilled before I got to make a real contribution. | ||
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I like the pseudo-Kingmaker lynch mechanic. Kingmakers always make for good games (and lots of bitching) | ||
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But I told you this and you brought the issue of me not PMing you up again later which made me think you might just be trying to throw dirt which is scummy. Then Risen's actions later caused me to kind of drop it and wonder why he didn't case you. | ||
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I actually vigi'd you in Sicilian Mafia because you were talking nonsense, not laziness How did Sharrant catch you? | ||
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