Just read scum pm
Great play and deserves win
I'm not sure if town would have lynched scum without the sharrant yamato check.

Excellent thread awareness. And the section where koshi was riding out the fakeclaim was hillarious.
Kitamins big play was so damn close hahah. Big balls koshi.

Rayn for scum mvp though. Excellent abuse of an apaethetic town. Well done

Mocsta

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August 20 2013 08:39 GMT

#4447

Hmm I thought clarity was good to work with. He was pissed with me in the end. But I would gladly team with him.

Like u said. To each their own.

Xat was frustrating for me.. too transparent. Perhaps that's what I'm like as I'm known for flipflopping reads instantly. It's very annoying as u don't know where u stand even though there is complete transparency

Oberyn and onegu were great to work with in pm land. They unintentionally motivated me to read the game. I was serious when I entered and said I had no care to catch up.

And yeah. Iamp. My issue with u was that u were working with rayn and I had rayn in my scum list. Guess that's a heuristic I have to drop.

Mocsta

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August 20 2013 09:11 GMT

#4462

Lurkers are a crapshoot. And yes it's tough. I was comfortable with my town read kush dead precisely because u don't want to end game with him. That was another reason rayn was scum haha. Any townie would admit that freely.

I'm not sure how to handle the lurker situation .but that's a bigger issue for others more versed in the nuances of mafia.

For host
I liked the setup but not sure about scum kp being fixed. Granted that I did not compute any numbers.
I suppose more than 1.5kp would have been too much with lynch and lord kp.

Plus I dont like paraphrase logs. I'm comfortable with forum pm only. But I like being able to paste it if required.

Mocsta

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August 20 2013 09:15 GMT

#4465

Rayn. I think it's natural to assume if 2 rb. It's split evenly.. I only glossed over the argument but the first thing in my head is. U know there's two rb on scum team and taking it out of proportion.

And yeah I only blue hunt as scum or a blue. As vt I just want to lynch scum.

And also. Town really needs to read dead filters more. I know it's hard with spammy filters but it's got to be done

Mocsta

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August 20 2013 09:55 GMT

#4496

On August 20 2013 18:35 Xatalos wrote:
Scum really had several strong players (and Koshi excels in making me think he's town -.-) so I don't feel too bad. I hope I'm scum next though. I enjoy knowing everything and having 100% trusted allies much more than walking in the dark.

Its pretty easy.

This is what I alluded to in the obsqt.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=423708&user=Koshi

His town filter in the newbie coming in as a replacement, is nothing like this game at all. Koshi can actually write clear, concise and not emotionally attached (which was a shock for me too).

Mocsta

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August 20 2013 09:57 GMT

#4497

On August 20 2013 18:39 Clarity_nl wrote:

Show nested quote +

We had a lot of lurkers though.
gumshoe, kush.. they weren't bad targets. It's just like a lynch. You look back and see who wanted who shot and later put the pieces together.

Maybe not bad targets. Certainly not good either. Gumshoe especially. Why would you shoot someone with zero posts in general? Thats a complete lottery draw.
Policy shot on kush/grush is acceptable.

Mocsta

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August 20 2013 09:59 GMT

#4498

On August 20 2013 18:49 Xatalos wrote:
And did jrkirby and Nacho have any decent explanation? If not, them as well...

At least someone doesn't look through the world with rose-coloured glasses.

Gentleman and a scholar, Xatalos.

Mocsta

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August 20 2013 10:00 GMT

#4500

On August 20 2013 18:51 Clarity_nl wrote:
I hate it when a qt gets too long and removes the button "all messages"

at the end of the qt link

/p0.600

and to then cos qt >600

/p0.900

dw. i know you wont thank me publically, but you still appreciate it

Mocsta

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August 20 2013 10:07 GMT

#4507

hmmm, i only played two games with you rayn.
sciilian -= town
got = scum

i think you played completely different. The core is teh same; but the intention is different.
I thought you explained yourself quite well in sicilian.
This game you tend to get fixated on points and refuse to concede any ground. Thats normally pretty scummy to me because as scum its already hard to find an argument you believe in enough to rant about.

Mocsta

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August 20 2013 11:33 GMT

#4516

Clarity I thought u played well and was a sound voice of reason.

Essentially a great sounding board and an important role for town to have.
In theory u and cat played off each other well.. But in practice I think got fixated too much on the theory world of Mafia. I.e. eradicating lurkers/bad town instead of top scum.

Overall given the prevalence of lurkers. I do think u both played well and did the best of what was available.

Mocsta

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August 20 2013 11:45 GMT

#4519

Well u can keep thinking that.

I guess in diff words. Having u in the thread was like being linked to a town hydra. Maybe YOU don't find the scum. But u help ENABLE the other ppl to find scum. Its an important support role. There's not many ppl I like publivally bouncing ideas off but u r one of them. I think its because u r quite impartial to everyone. Whereas most ppl have biases. Some public, some hidden.

Mocsta

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August 20 2013 23:15 GMT

#4576

On August 21 2013 05:56 kitaman27 wrote:
Hehe you and Acro did a good job putting distance between each other on day one with that nonsense about not revealing the meaningless plan. With a scum read on Acro and your activity in pms, I never took the time to take a look at you.

lol. same for me, but reversed with a to as town.

I didn't have acro as scum till he screwed me in pms.

Mocsta

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August 21 2013 05:40 GMT

#4579

Yep. It's shameful to say. But I had a town read on u as soon as u openly supported giving me a recap in thread. I think a scum kush woulda tried to shit on me for that.

Mocsta

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August 21 2013 08:14 GMT

#4581

It's just a game guys.

Gonna be trolls everywhere in life.
Kush prob gets enjoyment out of it, as he keeps coming back for more heckling.

Mocsta

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August 21 2013 08:55 GMT

#4583

its normal for ppl to form clicks, I.e. surround themselves with similar minded people.

the supposition is that there are others like kushmaster around, and they all congregate. thus nthe natural deduction for someone like kush, is that others would take the same action he takes. a fairly likely possibility.

perhaps, there some funky water in Maine?
gtfo, what u know about Maine...right?

Mocsta

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August 21 2013 13:53 GMT

#4592

lol.

I would certainly vote with taht case Kita.

Im gonna have to use that style next game hahah

Mocsta

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August 21 2013 22:28 GMT

#4611

I used the gloss technique when I came into the thread with my first reads post. it was the only way to read 120pages in 24hrs.

worked out pretty well in identifying scum. I just couldn't recall why anyone was dodgy without doing a deeper reread.

Mocsta

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August 21 2013 22:51 GMT

#4614

On August 22 2013 07:42 kushm4sta wrote:
Is it because only the elite class are rich enough to own personal computers?

?
I would have thought that was more the case in America.

We weren't put into a recession during the GFC.