• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 05:17
CEST 11:17
KST 18:17
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Team Liquid Map Contest #22: Results and Winners7Code S Season 2 (2026): RO4 and Finals Preview12TL.net Map Contest #22 - Voting & Ladder Map Selection7Code S Season 2 (2026) - RO8 Preview7[ASL21] Finals Preview: Two Legacies21
Community News
Weekly Cups (June 8-14): Clem and Solar double, PTR tested0RSL: S6 Finals played at BlizzCon 202611Douyu Cup 2026: $20,000 Legends Event (June 26-28)10[BSL22] Non-Korean Championship from 13 to 28 June4Weekly Cups (May 25-31): Clem doubles, 2v2 circuit heads toward finale0
StarCraft 2
General
Daily SC2 Player Grid - feedback wanted StarCraft II 5.0.16 PTR Patch Notes may 26th TL Poll: How do you feel about the 5.0.16 PTR balance changes? Code S Season 2 (2026) - RO8 Preview Updates to The Core/Core Lite for v5.0.16?
Tourneys
Master Swan Open (Global Bronze-Master 2) GSL CK #4 20-21th June Crank Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League Douyu Cup 2026: $20,000 Legends Event (June 26-28) Maestros of The Game 2 announcement and schedule !
Strategy
[G] Having the right mentality to improve
Custom Maps
Work In Progress Melee Maps [D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3
External Content
Mutation # 530 One For All The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 529 Opportunities Unleashed Mutation # 528 Infection Detected
Brood War
General
VPN experiences Data needed BW General Discussion vespene.gg — BW replays in browser Where is EffOrt?
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [ASL21] Grand Finals [BSL22] Grand Finals - Sunday 21:00 CEST Escore Tournament StarCraft Season 2
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Relatively freeroll strategies Creating a full chart of Zerg builds Why doesn't anyone use restoration?
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread ZeroSpace Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Beyond All Reason Total War: Warhammer 40K
Dota 2
Looking for a Dota Mentor Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread The Games Industry And ATVI UK Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread [H]Internet/Gaming Cafe Tips and Tricks
Fan Clubs
The HerO Fan Club! The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books [TV/BOOK] *SPOILERS* Game of Thrones Discussion [Manga] One Piece
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 Formula 1 Discussion Cricket [SPORT] NBA General Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread Facing Challenges in Mobile App Development
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Does Workplace Frustration D…
TrAiDoS
An Exploration of th…
waywardstrategy
I'm an arrogant trash talke…
FlaShFTW
Gauntlet SC2: A Retrospectiv…
Ctone23
Why RTS gamers make better f…
gosubay
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 10335 users

GoT Mafia: Lords and Liars - Page 9

Forum Index > TL Mafia
Post a Reply
Prev 1 7 8 9 10 Next All
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9389 Posts
August 20 2013 06:46 GMT
#4410
Yeah but who reads the OP.

And yes it doesn't matter. Ppl gonna take it however they want to take it.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9389 Posts
August 20 2013 06:53 GMT
#4412
Reading through scum qt
Got much more respect for rayn. Only up to post 300 but he's holding the team together well
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9389 Posts
August 20 2013 07:41 GMT
#4421
Just read scum pm
Great play and deserves win
I'm not sure if town would have lynched scum without the sharrant yamato check.

Excellent thread awareness. And the section where koshi was riding out the fakeclaim was hillarious.
Kitamins big play was so damn close hahah. Big balls koshi.

Rayn for scum mvp though. Excellent abuse of an apaethetic town. Well done
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9389 Posts
August 20 2013 08:39 GMT
#4447
Hmm I thought clarity was good to work with. He was pissed with me in the end. But I would gladly team with him.

Like u said. To each their own.

Xat was frustrating for me.. too transparent. Perhaps that's what I'm like as I'm known for flipflopping reads instantly. It's very annoying as u don't know where u stand even though there is complete transparency

Oberyn and onegu were great to work with in pm land. They unintentionally motivated me to read the game. I was serious when I entered and said I had no care to catch up.

And yeah. Iamp. My issue with u was that u were working with rayn and I had rayn in my scum list. Guess that's a heuristic I have to drop.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9389 Posts
August 20 2013 09:11 GMT
#4462
Lurkers are a crapshoot. And yes it's tough. I was comfortable with my town read kush dead precisely because u don't want to end game with him. That was another reason rayn was scum haha. Any townie would admit that freely.

I'm not sure how to handle the lurker situation .but that's a bigger issue for others more versed in the nuances of mafia.

For host
I liked the setup but not sure about scum kp being fixed. Granted that I did not compute any numbers.
I suppose more than 1.5kp would have been too much with lynch and lord kp.

Plus I dont like paraphrase logs. I'm comfortable with forum pm only. But I like being able to paste it if required.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9389 Posts
August 20 2013 09:15 GMT
#4465
Rayn. I think it's natural to assume if 2 rb. It's split evenly.. I only glossed over the argument but the first thing in my head is. U know there's two rb on scum team and taking it out of proportion.

And yeah I only blue hunt as scum or a blue. As vt I just want to lynch scum.

And also. Town really needs to read dead filters more. I know it's hard with spammy filters but it's got to be done
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9389 Posts
August 20 2013 09:55 GMT
#4496
On August 20 2013 18:35 Xatalos wrote:
Scum really had several strong players (and Koshi excels in making me think he's town -.-) so I don't feel too bad. I hope I'm scum next though. I enjoy knowing everything and having 100% trusted allies much more than walking in the dark.

Its pretty easy.

This is what I alluded to in the obsqt.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=423708&user=Koshi

His town filter in the newbie coming in as a replacement, is nothing like this game at all. Koshi can actually write clear, concise and not emotionally attached (which was a shock for me too).
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9389 Posts
August 20 2013 09:57 GMT
#4497
On August 20 2013 18:39 Clarity_nl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2013 18:38 raynpelikoneet wrote:
The downside is that nobody ever discussed it in thread later on. :D
We affected the shots so much with our presence it was impossible to track onto anyone specificaly. Everyone looked as good/bad because of the shots. For example, on D1 end we basically decided with iamp who to shoot, he gave all town targets so i was okay with it. Nobody else seemed to give a shit about the house KP.


We had a lot of lurkers though.
gumshoe, kush.. they weren't bad targets. It's just like a lynch. You look back and see who wanted who shot and later put the pieces together.
Maybe not bad targets. Certainly not good either. Gumshoe especially. Why would you shoot someone with zero posts in general? Thats a complete lottery draw.
Policy shot on kush/grush is acceptable.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9389 Posts
August 20 2013 09:59 GMT
#4498
On August 20 2013 18:49 Xatalos wrote:
And did jrkirby and Nacho have any decent explanation? If not, them as well...

At least someone doesn't look through the world with rose-coloured glasses.

Gentleman and a scholar, Xatalos.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9389 Posts
August 20 2013 10:00 GMT
#4500
On August 20 2013 18:51 Clarity_nl wrote:
I hate it when a qt gets too long and removes the button "all messages"

at the end of the qt link

/p0.600

and to then cos qt >600

/p0.900

dw. i know you wont thank me publically, but you still appreciate it
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9389 Posts
August 20 2013 10:07 GMT
#4507
hmmm, i only played two games with you rayn.
sciilian -= town
got = scum


i think you played completely different. The core is teh same; but the intention is different.
I thought you explained yourself quite well in sicilian.
This game you tend to get fixated on points and refuse to concede any ground. Thats normally pretty scummy to me because as scum its already hard to find an argument you believe in enough to rant about.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9389 Posts
August 20 2013 11:33 GMT
#4516
Clarity I thought u played well and was a sound voice of reason.

Essentially a great sounding board and an important role for town to have.
In theory u and cat played off each other well.. But in practice I think got fixated too much on the theory world of Mafia. I.e. eradicating lurkers/bad town instead of top scum.

Overall given the prevalence of lurkers. I do think u both played well and did the best of what was available.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9389 Posts
August 20 2013 11:45 GMT
#4519
Well u can keep thinking that.

I guess in diff words. Having u in the thread was like being linked to a town hydra. Maybe YOU don't find the scum. But u help ENABLE the other ppl to find scum. Its an important support role. There's not many ppl I like publivally bouncing ideas off but u r one of them. I think its because u r quite impartial to everyone. Whereas most ppl have biases. Some public, some hidden.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9389 Posts
August 20 2013 23:15 GMT
#4576
On August 21 2013 05:56 kitaman27 wrote:
Hehe you and Acro did a good job putting distance between each other on day one with that nonsense about not revealing the meaningless plan. With a scum read on Acro and your activity in pms, I never took the time to take a look at you.

lol. same for me, but reversed with a to as town.

I didn't have acro as scum till he screwed me in pms.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9389 Posts
August 21 2013 05:40 GMT
#4579
Yep. It's shameful to say. But I had a town read on u as soon as u openly supported giving me a recap in thread. I think a scum kush woulda tried to shit on me for that.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9389 Posts
August 21 2013 08:14 GMT
#4581
It's just a game guys.

Gonna be trolls everywhere in life.
Kush prob gets enjoyment out of it, as he keeps coming back for more heckling.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9389 Posts
August 21 2013 08:55 GMT
#4583
its normal for ppl to form clicks, I.e. surround themselves with similar minded people.

the supposition is that there are others like kushmaster around, and they all congregate. thus nthe natural deduction for someone like kush, is that others would take the same action he takes. a fairly likely possibility.


perhaps, there some funky water in Maine?
gtfo, what u know about Maine...right?
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9389 Posts
August 21 2013 13:53 GMT
#4592
lol.

I would certainly vote with taht case Kita.

Im gonna have to use that style next game hahah
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9389 Posts
August 21 2013 22:28 GMT
#4611
I used the gloss technique when I came into the thread with my first reads post. it was the only way to read 120pages in 24hrs.

worked out pretty well in identifying scum. I just couldn't recall why anyone was dodgy without doing a deeper reread.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9389 Posts
August 21 2013 22:51 GMT
#4614
On August 22 2013 07:42 kushm4sta wrote:
Is it because only the elite class are rich enough to own personal computers?

?
I would have thought that was more the case in America.

We weren't put into a recession during the GFC.
Prev 1 7 8 9 10 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 43m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
SortOf 149
StarCraft: Brood War
Sea 2345
Leta 179
Sharp 46
hero 35
Backho 34
Hm[arnc] 26
Aegong 21
soO 19
NotJumperer 15
Bale 14
[ Show more ]
Killer 12
Purpose 7
sorry 3
Mong 1
League of Legends
JimRising 479
Other Games
ceh9724
WinterStarcraft592
Liquid`RaSZi537
Trikslyr32
RuFF_SC218
crisheroes1
Organizations
Dota 2
PGL Dota 2 - Secondary Stream2042
Other Games
gamesdonequick488
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 13 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Berry_CruncH261
• StrangeGG 40
• LUISG 21
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Upcoming Events
The PondCast
43m
WardiTV Spring Champion…
1h 43m
MaxPax vs SHIN
ByuN vs herO
Solar vs Zoun
OSC
3h 43m
OSC
14h 43m
CranKy Ducklings
1d
WardiTV Spring Champion…
1d 1h
Cure vs SKillous
WardiTV Spring Champion…
2 days
GSL
2 days
Maru vs ShoWTimE
Classic vs Reynor
herO vs Lambo
Solar vs Clem
BSL22 NKC (BSL vs China)
2 days
XuanXuan vs Jaystar
Mihu vs Messiah
eOnzErG vs Dewalt
Bonyth vs Jaystar
TerrOr vs Messiah
XuanXuan vs Mihu
eOnzErG vs Jaystar
Replay Cast
2 days
[ Show More ]
WardiTV Spring Champion…
3 days
GSL
3 days
Patches Events
3 days
BSL22 NKC (BSL vs China)
3 days
Dewalt vs Messiah
Bonyth vs Mihu
TerrOr vs XuanXuan
eOnzErG vs Messiah
Jaystar vs Mihu
Dewalt vs XuanXuan
Bonyth vs TerrOr
Replay Cast
3 days
WardiTV Weekly
4 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
5 days
Douyu Cup 2020
6 days
Oliveira vs Trap
Jieshi vs XY
soO vs FanTaSy
TY vs Coffee
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-06-16
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
Heroes Pulsing #1

Ongoing

IPSL Spring 2026
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 2
Acropolis #4
CSCL: Masked Kings S4
YSL S3
BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
SCTL 2026 Spring
Maestros of the Game 2
WardiTV Spring 2026
Murky Cup 2026
Heroes Pulsing #2
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026

Upcoming

CSL 2026 Summer (S21)
CSLAN 4
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Revival: Season 6
CranK Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League
HSC XXIX
Douyu Cup 2026
BCC 2026
Heroes Pulsing #3
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.